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[leatherhat]

Would bigoted or xenophobic be more to your liking?

Xenophobic would be the only one of the 3 that makes sense. And even then its a big stretch.

A xenophobic statement would be "We don't want Polish people because they have horrible music and stink."

"We don't need large scale immigration because we are dealing with unemployment amongst our struggling youth" would not be one.

 

[Linkyn]

Results from Luxembourg:

The ones that got seats:

LSAP - Luxembourg Socialist Worker's Party (S&D)
DP - Democratic Party (ALDE)
CSV - Christian Social People's Party (EPP)
dei Greng - Green Party (Greens-EFA)

Looks like my candidates all got their seat.

 

[Minister of the Dog]

Too bad about Vox, I really wanted them to steal the PP's lunch.

It wasn't necessary. What I think happened here is

- PSOE voters, who voted PP in 2011 to punish the Zapatero government, have gone back to vote PSOE. Perhaps some PP voters changed to UPyD.

- Many PSOE voters have voted IU, Podemos and other leftist parties.

And this is pure speculation, but maybe new, young voters have favoured leftist parties.

 

[WayneMorse]

NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT. I REPEAT, NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT.

 

[CyclopsRock]

AV was rejected in the UK because it's a shit voting system that everyone rightly hates.

 

[Funky Papa]

Xenophobic would be the only one of the 3 that makes sense. And even then its a big stretch.

A xenophobic statement would be "We don't want Polish people because they have horrible music and stink."

"We don't need large scale immigration because we are dealing with unemployment amongst are struggling youth" would not be one.

Maybe you could look past the slogans and into the actions and statements of the UKIP.

Because they are xenophobic and racist AS FUCK.

 

[kess]

Huh, the UKIP is outpolling the Greens in Scotland

and the Greens are ahead of the Liberal Fucking Democrats

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT. I REPEAT, NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT.

The one bright spark of this election is the fact the BNP have been wiped the fuck out.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Are the CD controlled my Merkel? That would be awful!

 

[leatherhat]

So saying all bulgarians and romanians want to come and tek eur jerbs is or isn't? I'm confused.

South Park reference, nice one.

 

[Kurtofan]

France defense force here

"Only" 1/10th of us voted for the FN, and that's mainly because other parties didn't do shit to make people interested in the EU. Same goes for national TV - we should have had a le pen/schulz debate, but le pen didn't want to face schulz so schulz got cancelled.

It sucks for us more than for Europe since that means we'll send 24 MPs that will do little more than sit on their asses and collect their check.

they can translate that into more credibility on the national stage though.

nobody cares, but they're going to flaunt those pretty numbers into everyone's faces.

 

[Masquerader]

NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT. I REPEAT, NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT.

Oh~? Really~?

 

[avaya]

NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT. I REPEAT, NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT.

my delight at this is diminished by the purple racists winning

 

[ICKE]

NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT. I REPEAT, NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT.

But it doesn't really help when the same voters are no going for UKIP that has same policies in their agenda.

 

[Chariot]

Are the CD controlled my Merkel? That would be awful!

You mean CDU? Or something else

 

[Sickboy007]

New exit polls gives an even bigger lead for the Democratic Party in Italy, at 34,5%.

 

[Funky Papa]

NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT. I REPEAT, NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT.

I'll take what I can.

 

[Sonik]

Being against referendums on important matters doesn't mean being against democracy.

Important matters are why referendums happen. Like someone else said, do the fascists have to start winning elections before you guys start getting the message?

yes, it is awful. People are cretins.

The very least, it's a worrying behavior. "I don't like what the majority thinks so don't let them vote" is a pretty good summary of the discussion of those two.

 

[anonymous_abc]

AV was rejected in the UK because it's a shit voting system that everyone rightly hates.

The lib deems greets failure (and that is saying a lot) to not insist on a referendum on PR.

 

[Nicktendo86]

BNP as a whole has been wiped out, votes gone to ukip.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

You mean CDU? Or something else

The largest block! Christian Democrats EPP.

 

[avaya]

Important matters is why referendums happen. Like someone else said, do the fascists have to start winning elections before you guys start getting the message?



The very least, it's a worrying behavior. "I don't like what the majority thinks so don't let them vote" is a pretty good summary of the discussion of those two.

its not even a majority, the turn out is way less than 40%, its the older generations and their lovely xenophobia.

 

[anonymous_abc]

 

[Marc]

If Nick Griffin holds onto his seat I'll probably explode.

You have a Tony Blair avatar? As far as I know, being a racist fuck like Griffin, is still a bit higher up than a mass murdering traitor.

Some of the generalizations and sweeping statements made about the people voting in these things is a tad vitriolic.

 

[cripterion]

France defense force here

"Only" 1/10th of us voted for the FN, and that's mainly because other parties didn't do shit to make people interested in the EU. Same goes for national TV - we should have had a le pen/schulz debate, but le pen didn't want to face schulz so schulz got cancelled.

It sucks for us more than for Europe since that means we'll send 24 MPs that will do little more than sit on their asses and collect their check.

The rise of F.N is really no surprise to a lot of people here, and it can even be further attributed to the clowns currently at the helm of the government.
Not sure what the "socialists" were expecting to be honest.

 

[dalin80]

BNP as a whole has been wiped out, votes gone to ukip.

Well, lesser evils I suppose...

 

[Sonik]

its not even a majority, the turn out is way less than 40%, its the older generations and their lovely xenophobia.

I think the low turnout is also a pretty strong message about how Europeans feel about EU.

 

[Nicktendo86]

You have a Tony Blair avatar? As far as I know, being a racist fuck like Griffin, is still a bit higher up than a mass murdering traitor.

Some of the generalizations and sweeping statements made about the people voting in these things is a tad vitriolic.

He had a nick Clegg one before, thought he was being ironic or something ;p

 

[Chariot]

The largest block! Christian Democrats.

Yo, thats the CDU. But they lost a bit of their strengh and it isn't the worst party. They are static and corrupt, but thats still better than AfD.

Apropos, AfD is at 7,0% atm.

 

[anonymous_abc]

last update from me.
I'm off to bed. See you in the morning.





Martin Schulz Live in a second!
http://www.euronews.com/2014/05/23/european-elections-2014-live-coverage-results-and-reactions-/

 

[Marc]

But UKIP is totally not racist, according to some little eng... gaffers.

It is a stupid poster, they all tend to be, hyperbole rubbish for the most part.

However, where are you getting race from that? 28 million what... black people in your mind? I don't follow, please explain and expand upon how that makes an organisation racist as a whole. As you are accusing these people of being racist and they make up 'little englanders' as you put it, then that makes all of England racists as that element exists right?

That is the logic you and people like you use, which has a hint of irony to it. Anyway, strawman fallacy gonna strawman fallacy.

 

[Copons]

New exit polls from Italy:

PD - 34.5%
M5S - 25.5%
FI - 17%
NCD - 4.5%
Lega - 6.5%
Tsipras - 4.5%
FDI - 3.5%


But, if last elections taught us something, is that M5S voters just lie.

 

[Bold One]

The one bright spark of this election is the fact the BNP have been wiped the fuck out.

aren't they just secretly doing the fusion dance with the Kippers?

 

[Kase]

NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT. I REPEAT, NICK GRIFFIN HAS LOST HIS SEAT.

Best news of the whole night

 

[EmiPrime]

Important matters are why referendums happen. Like someone else said, do the fascists have to start winning elections before you guys start getting the message?



The very least, it's a worrying behavior. "I don't like what the majority thinks so don't let them vote" is a pretty good summary of the discussion of those two.

I don't remember a referendum on the bedroom tax nor university fees. Plenty of important things don't get one. You want a say on what happens, read manifestos and vote accordingly or even better join a political party and get involved.

 

[G.O.O.]

The rise of F.N is really no surprise to a lot of people here, and it can even be further attributed to the clowns currently at the helm of the government.
Not sure what the "socialists" were expecting to be honest.

If they were expecting something after putting Harlem Désir in charge of the european affairs then it's worse than I thought

 

[dalin80]

aren't they just secretly doing the fusion dance with the Kippers?

Not really, even farrage knows that any association there is poison. As much as GAF being heavily left wing likes to hate on UKIP the BNP were (yay! past tense!) truly vile.

 

[kess]

Labour has pulled ahead of the Conservatives according to the BBC

 

[ICKE]

It is a stupid poster, they all tend to be, hyperbole rubbish for the most part.

However, where are you getting race from that? 28 million what... black people in your mind? I don't follow, please explain and expand upon how that makes an organisation racist as a whole. As you are accusing these people of being racist and they make up 'little englanders' as you put it, then that makes all of England racists as that element exists right?

That is the logic you and people like you use, which has a hint of irony to it. Anyway, strawman fallacy gonna strawman fallacy.

Founder of the party disagrees, seems to believe people involved in the movement these days are mostly racists.

And just because they try to rebrand themselves it doesn't change their past actions.

 

[Funky Papa]

It is a stupid poster, they all tend to be, hyperbole rubbish for the most part.

However, where are you getting race from that? 28 million what... black people in your mind? I don't follow, please explain and expand upon how that makes an organisation racist as a whole. As you are accusing these people of being racist and they make up 'little englanders' as you put it, then that makes all of England racists as that element exists right?

That is the logic you and people like you use, which has a hint of irony to it. Anyway, strawman fallacy gonna strawman fallacy.

The UKIP is largely a racist and xenophobic party.

I am not getting this from a poster or carefully worded slogans, but from countless racist and xenophobic statements, the links of numerous candidates and officials to neonazi scum and the fact that Nigel Farage himself used to enjoy singing Nazi songs back in his youth. That poster may not be explicitly racist, but it fits wonderfully into a greater context than only the most mentally sequestered voter would fail to recognize.

 

[avaya]

It is a stupid poster, they all tend to be, hyperbole rubbish for the most part.

However, where are you getting race from that? 28 million what... black people in your mind? I don't follow, please explain and expand upon how that makes an organisation racist as a whole. As you are accusing these people of being racist and they make up 'little englanders' as you put it, then that makes all of England racists as that element exists right?

That is the logic you and people like you use, which has a hint of irony to it. Anyway, strawman fallacy gonna strawman fallacy.

they are massive massive racist cunts.

 

[Mt Heart Attack]

New exit polls from Italy:

PD - 34.5%
M5S - 25.5%
FI - 17%
NCD - 4.5%
Lega - 6.5%
Tsipras - 4.5%
FDI - 3.5%


But, if last elections taught us something, is that M5S voters just lie.

According to the first projections, PD has actually reached 40%, that would be an unexpected triumph for Renzi, which would legitimate his leadership and arguably make Italy's the largest national delegations within the S&D.

Crazy really, usually it's the other way around for left-wing parties in Italy, projections just shattering their dreams.

 

[ICKE]

Wait what, I didn't know that NPD was actually gaining a seat.

"Have a nice flight back home"

Are you fucking serious? I need to get some sleep.

 

[3Sixty]

This fucking BBC euro voting map is fucking stupid.

Fucking news coverage in this country...

 

[Copons]

According to the first projections, PD has actually reached 40%, that would be an unexpected triumph for Renzi, which would legitimate his leadership and arguably make Italy's the largest national delegations within the S&D.

Crazy really, usually it's the other way around for left-wing parties in Italy, projections just shattering their dreams.

Yup, those projections just popped up on Repubblica page, while I was checking the actual numbers from Lazio (lol PD more than 49% ).

But really, after last year it's impossible to trust polls at all.

 

[Marc]

I don't remember a referendum on the bedroom tax nor university fees. Plenty of important things don't get one. You want a say on what happens, read manifestos and vote accordingly or even better join a political party and get involved.

Neither compare to the whole political set up of a country where you give away the powers the people have given MP's in the first place. That isn't their right to do that without asking, they did it anyway under Labour and the consequences of which many are seeing and not liking.

What manifesto mentioned anything on the likes of the Lisbon treaty? Oh no wait, the conservatives had one (y'know, the ones that got in) but as it was signed already they reckoned they couldn't do it any more.

You are arguing against people having the ability to vote on how their political system is run based on a tax not getting a vote. When that particular issue will get a vote come the general election. Or a schooling system change due to huge debts from a recession, racked up by the Labour party. Which you can vote on, LibDems will probably run with it despite their turnaround. If the main parties had the referendum in the first place, or demanded it for this year or last then UKIP's existence would be redundant. Y'know, listening to people.... god forbid.

 

[DevilFox]

New exit polls from Italy:

PD - 34.5%
M5S - 25.5%
FI - 17%
NCD - 4.5%
Lega - 6.5%
Tsipras - 4.5%
FDI - 3.5%


But, if last elections taught us something, is that M5S voters just lie.

I can't believe PD is so high, such a disaster. I'm tired, really tired and disappointed.

 

[Funky Papa]

Wait what, I didn't know that NPD was actually gaining a seat.

"Have a nice flight back home"

Are you fucking serious? I need to get some sleep.

GROSS

I may need a table with the turnout in each country to better understand what happened. There's a chance that plenty of people didn't bother to vote and thus gave a massive advantage to the most radical parties.

 

[Tugatrix]

Results until now from Portugal, some counties(the bigger ones) still counting

PS 31.48%
PPD/PSD.CDS-PP 27.86%
PCP-PEV 12.52%
MPT 7.14%

B.E. 4.54%
L 2.18%
PAN 1.71%
PCTP/MRPP 1.66%

PND 0.7%
PTP 0.69%
PPM 0.54%
PNR 0.45%

MAS 0.38%
PPV 0.38%
PDA 0.16%
POUS 0.11%

 

[Sickboy007]

According to the first projections, PD has actually reached 40%, that would be an unexpected triumph for Renzi, which would legitimate his leadership and arguably make Italy's the largest national delegations within the S&D.

Crazy really, usually it's the other way around for left-wing parties in Italy, projections just shattering their dreams.

That would be an earth-shattering result for Renzi. Highest in decades?