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Ever cheat on a significant other....if so why?

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Koshiba

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Waychel said:
Never have and never will. I've been cheated on before and I could never put somebody that I care about through that. Even if I fell out of love, I'd still care about the person and respect them enough to break up first.

I don't know how people can cheat once, let alone go on cheating repeatedly and actually live with themselves afterwards. Just break up with the person...

I agree with you completely. I've never been able to understand it honestly. I've never cheated either and I doubt I ever would. The closest I even ever came to cheating was when I was in a long distance relationship where the guy was treating me like shit and ignored me for a whole month, (Yeah, I know I should've broken it off by then but I've learned my lesson by now..) I was flirting and cuddling with another guy.

I also do consider making out with another person to be cheating. I've been cheated on alot of times by guys. One guy had an excuse for one of the times, "I just kissed her and you're making a big deal out of it!" Actually what he did what call her his girlfriend and make out with her for a few weeks. That is cheating in my book.
 
For those who don't get why people cheat...

A lot of men and women out there consider it kinky/a turn-on/naughty to do it. There is an unmatchable and very short-term level of excitement involved in having sex with someone else while occupied in a relationship. A lot of people get turned on by hurting others, including loved ones, just as long as they're not caught in the act.
 

Manics

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Never cheated on someone, but an ex-girlfriend of mine cheated on me. Broke my heart at the time, but it was for the best as I got to meet my wife a few years later -- totally a better person than my old girlfriend.
 
Never cheated, and I never will. I expect to be dumped instead of being cheated on, too. It's just respect, not very hard to do, too. I've noticed that people who can't master their sexual urges are usually dumbasses, man or woman.
 
I don't consider making out cheating. If my girlfriend did it wouldn't be a big deal unless she really took things farther and was doing it repeatedly. I mean a smooch here and there isn't a huge deal.

That said I haven't really ever cheated, but I have been the one people cheat with. Generally it doesn't matter much to me unless I think the person is really screwing someone. Like this one girl I know. She has a good boyfriend from what I can tell. She told me I am one of her favorites and I can tell there is some sort of attraction to me there just by the way she hugs me and gives me kisses goodbye. Thing is I know I would never be as good to her so if there came the time where she was wanting to take things farther I don't think I would.
 

Lil' Dice

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Waychel said:
Geez, this coupled with that "would you tell?" thread really makes me lose faith in relationships. =\ I just can't understand how cheating can be so common among so many people. No wonder divorce rates today are the way that they are.

Just seems that some people look at a relationship like a toy that, once it has gotten old, can be placed on the shelf while they go to play with something newer in the meantime. Why even commit yourself to a relationship if you have these kinds of faults about your loyalty?

You're young, and naive. Have you even been in a serious long term relationship yet?
You'll be surprised at how many personal imperfections surface once you put down the DS and involve yourself with someone of the opposite sex.
 
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Nobody is perfect. I sort of was under the impression that that was where loved factored in. I guess when you're thinking more with your dick than your heart though, none of this really matters all that much.
 

Lil' Dice

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You're horribly naive. Despite what Oprah told you, there are far more emotional needs a man has than the urge to have sex with other women.
Again, how many long term relationships have you had throughout your life to warrant your criticism?
My current one has been going since before you had your first period, and i've never cheated on her.
 
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Uhh... I may be naive, but you're pretty incoherent. First you tell me that I'm naive and that many imperfections surface in relationships and that many men have sexual needs, but then you counter this by saying you've never cheated on your significant other at all. I really fail to see which side you're taking on this.
 

Lil' Dice

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Read my posts girlfriend. I said i cheated on one of my ex-girlfriends, but not on my current on; i would break up with her if it ever got to that point. I don't pass judgement on anyone who cheats however, and i don't make it a habit to mettle in others' affairs. That's probably why you can't pinpoint my stance on the matter.

At the time i cheated, i knew nothing about what being in love was all about, i was in my late teens and was wrapped up in a relationship because of some primal urge and nothing more. That's why i chuckle whenever some 15 year olds frenching at the mall say "I love you" to one another.
 

aoi tsuki

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As i said in a similar thread, i also think cheating can be more than physical. i dated a girl a while back, and i was the "other guy". It was never overtly sexual until they broke up, but i took her out on dates, we held hands, hugged, and cuddled a lot. Then she'd go home and fuck her boyfriend.

I do think long term relationships are for suckers. Amen.
i think that's a simplistic view, but i agree with it a bit. i'd say at least half the people in committed relationships, whether they're just going together, or married/life partners really don't need to be together. Committed relationships take a lot of work, and a lot of people aren't committed to making them work in the long term.
 

olimario

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I haven't cheated or had the urge to. Why get into a relationship at all if you plan to cheat and/or break up? The whole point of a relationship is to see if that person is right for you. If you have the breakup mindset prior, why even start one?
 

Lil' Dice

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olimario said:
I haven't cheated or had the urge to. Why get into a relationship at all if you plan to cheat and/or break up? The whole point of a relationship is to see if that person is right for you. If you have the breakup mindset prior, why even start one?

Yeah, why get into a serious relationship if you're gonna send naked pics of your girlfriend to Morphix in exchange for a PSP as if she were some dime-bag whore?
 

olimario

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Lil' Dice said:
Yeah, why get into a serious relationship if you're gonna send naked pics of your girlfriend to Morphix in exchange for a PSP as if she were some dime-bag whore?

I was just the medium, my friend.
 
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olimario said:
I haven't cheated or had the urge to. Why get into a relationship at all if you plan to cheat and/or break up? The whole point of a relationship is to see if that person is right for you. If you have the breakup mindset prior, why even start one?

That's how I look at things, too. If you think that "long term relationships are for suckers" and already go into a relationship with a predisposition towards cheating by already condoning the practice, then why the hell are you even bothering with relationships? Those types should just stick to one night stands. I wonder just how their "significant other" might feel to know that they're no more "significant" to such a person than the next piece of ass out there.
 
also, i think there's a very real correlation in how ugly you are and how susceptible said person is in entering a committed relationship and keeping the bond forever.

for obvious reasons.
 

Willco

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olimario said:
The whole point of a relationship is to see if that person is right for you.

No, it's not. The whole point of a relationship is that both parties get something beneficial out of their social interactions.

If you have the breakup mindset prior, why even start one?

Sex. Duh.

... And you say your dad is a rocket scientist?

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olimario

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Incognito said:
also, i think there's a very real correlation in how ugly you are and how susceptible said person is in entering a committed relationship and keeping the bond forever.

for obvious reasons.

I think there is a real correlation between douchebags and those who are prone to cheating.

for obvious reasons, of course.

Willco said:
No, it's not. The whole point of a relationship is that both parties get something beneficial out of their social interactions.



Sex. Duh.

... And you say your dad is a rocket scientist?

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This mindset is all fucked up. Very superficial.
And I know the answer is sex, but why not stick to one night stands or stick to finding a sexual partner who isn't looking to commit?
 

Willco

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olimario said:
This mindset is all fucked up. Very superficial.

Hey, as already stated, I'm not the one who sold pictures of my girlfriend for a PSP. Which one of us is fucked up and superficial?

And I know the answer is sex, but why not stick to one night stands or stick to finding a sexual partner who isn't looking to commit?

Because maybe you like someone, but want to sleep with other people. Sounds like sex is the glue that holds your relationships together, but it's not with mine.
 

aoi tsuki

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Lil' Dice said:
Yeah, why get into a serious relationship if you're gonna send naked pics of your girlfriend to Morphix in exchange for a PSP as if she were some dime-bag whore?
:lol

EFTOPIARTIS...
 
no it's not, olimario. you're what, 18? sex is pleasure. girls are fun. being young isnt forever and locking yourself to one woman at such a young age is something i can't wrap my mind around.
 

Willco

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Incognito said:
no it's not, olimario. you're what, 18? sex is pleasure. girls are fun. being young isnt forever and locking yourself to one woman at such a young age is something i can't wrap my mind around.

Hey, she cleans his house and he sells her for videogame systems. Sounds like he got a steal of a lifetime!
 

olimario

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She was the go ahead for the PSP, not me. She had to talk me into doing it.
I'm 20 and I've found a person that I love, respect, and enjoy. I don't know why I would pass that up to have a bunch of sex with random girls.

I don't drink and I don't sleep around, but I still manage to really enjoy life. Strange concept, I'm sure.
 

Willco

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olimario said:
She was the go ahead for the PSP, not me. She had to talk me into doing it.

Yeah, any girl that pleads to have you peddle questionable pictures of her for videogame systems is a keeper. I think the fact that she begged you to do it speaks volumes about the type of person she is and the kind of standards you have.

I'm 20 and I've found a person that I love, respect, and enjoy. I don't know why I would pass that up to have a bunch of sex with random girls.

Because you're naive and don't know better. We're not talking just about random sexual encounters. Sometimes affairs are about passion. Sometimes it is just the sexual encounter.

I don't drink and I don't sleep around, but I still manage to really enjoy life. Strange concept, I'm sure.

You're a sheltered, naive Texan, which is not a strange concept, but a tragic one.
 

Lil' Dice

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olimario said:
She was the go ahead for the PSP, not me. She had to talk me into doing it.
I'm 20 and I've found a person that I love, respect, and enjoy. I don't know why I would pass that up to have a bunch of sex with random girls.

I don't drink and I don't sleep around, but I still manage to really enjoy life. Strange concept, I'm sure.

It starts off with a PSP, then she'll be lifting up her Von Dutch tank top on the front cover of "Big Nosed Girls Gone Wild".....
 
So she gave the go ahead for e-prostitution? That's weird; I thought the Bible had some verses against prostitution? Upstanding folks we have here...

Me, if my GF wants to pawn herself off on the internet, she can do that with another man. :lol :lol
 
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it's not really a strange concept olimario. It's just that you would enjoy live more if you drank a bit!

a glass of red wine, every single day, rather than being detrimental EXTENDS your life. That's awesome. I'm spreading the good news.
 

Willco

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Incognito said:
Me, if my GF wants to pawn herself off on the internet, she can do that with another man. :lol :lol

Really. I think the fact that she wanted to be whored out for videogame products is actually worse than a selfish Olimario going about this transaction in a disingenuous manner.
 

olimario

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Willco said:
Yeah, any girl that pleads to have you peddle questionable pictures of her for videogame systems is a keeper. I think the fact that she begged you to do it speaks volumes about the type of person she is and the kind of standards you have.



Because you're naive and don't know better. We're not talking just about random sexual encounters. Sometimes affairs are about passion. Sometimes it is just the sexual encounter.



You're a sheltered, naive Texan, which is not a strange concept, but a tragic one.


Naive? Not sleeping around is not naive, it's respectable. I'm more than aware of what I'm capable of and what actually goes on in the world. So aware, in fact, that I don't do the things I find reprehensible.

Sheltered? No. Naive? No.
You have no idea, Will.
 
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I don't see how not sleeping around is labeled as being "naive" when it is simply having sensibilities about yourself.
 

Tenacious-V

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if you're in a relationship and don't have enough comittment to stay faithful to him/her, then there should be no point in being in that relationship in the first place. Stay single and stick to casual sex. That's what being single is all about. Having a bf/gf is for people who are more comitted than the average person. So cheating shouldn't be a problem cause you WANT to be together... It's about respect, and care for the person you're with.
 
Incognito said:
it's naive when you've shacked up with the only person you've ever dated.


dont blame your romantic failures on just trying to gain experience or playin the feild:p. If you meet someone you love and can live with your whole life then for sure marry them. Doesnt matter how many ppl you have dated beforehand.
 

Willco

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olimario said:
Naive? Not sleeping around is not naive, it's respectable. I'm more than aware of what I'm capable of and what actually goes on in the world. So aware, in fact, that I don't do the things I find reprehensible.

Sheltered? No. Naive? No.
You have no idea, Will.

I didn't realize we were on a first name basis, Gary.

You live in a suburb in the state that gave birth to the fuckin' Anti-Christ, and you were obviously fostered with Christian ideals along with a family income that would probably rate well above average. Struggled have you? I doubt it. Seen the real world? I doubt that even more.

If you actively seek out sex in the hopes of being malicious to your partner, than that's wrong. If you have an open relationship or you not necessarily commited or you're just a swinger bachleor, you can take your beliefs and shove it.

For someone who has an obviously "holier than thou" attitude, along with e-preachings of being faithful, you seem to have no problem doling out questionable pictures for material posessions.

If that doesn't make you a hypocrite, and show your lack of experience with real relationships in the real world, I don't know what does.

Waychel said:
I don't see how not sleeping around is labeled as being "naive" when it is simply having sensibilities about yourself.

I'm not necessarily condoning the act of "cheating", that being the act of having sexual relations with someone outside of a committed relationship without realizing the the consequences or doing so with malicious intent.

I'm calling olimario naive because he seems to have this belief that all people who have sex outside of conventional relationships are lower than him. And that if you enter a relationship without the intent to stay commited to that one period for an extended period of time, it makes no sense.

That is naive.

Tenacious-V said:
If you're in a relationship and don't have enough comittment to stay faithful to him/her, then there should be no point in being in that relationship in the first place. Stay single and stick to casual sex. That's what being single is all about. Having a bf/gf is for people who are more comitted than the average person. So cheating shouldn't be a problem cause you WANT to be together... It's about respect, and care for the person you're with.

I agree respect is important, but it's just naive to think that people who enter a relationship together are necessarily the same people who leave one apart. People grow, people change and that's extremely important to recognize when you're young. Sometimes the passion dies and sometimes the person changes so much that you're naturally drawn to a more attractive mate and - shit! - that's something many will have to deal with in life.

It'd be nice if we could all have handshake agreement and things could stay the same from Day One, but that's a fool's dream.
 

olimario

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Willco said:
I didn't realize we were on a first name basis, Gary.

You live in a suburb in the state that gave birth to the fuckin' Anti-Christ, and you were obviously fostered with Christian ideals along with a family income that would probably rate well above average. Struggled have you? I doubt it. Seen the real world? I doubt that even more..

If you actively seek out sex in the hopes of being malicious to your partner, than that's wrong. If you have an open relationship or you not necessarily commited or you're just a swinger bachleor, you can take your beliefs and shove it.

For someone who has an obviously "holier than thou" attitude, along with e-preachings of being faithful, you seem to have no problem doling out questionable pictures for material posessions.

If that doesn't make you a hypocrite, and show your lack of experience with real relationships in the real world, I don't know what does.



I'm not necessarily condoning the act of "cheating", that being the act of having sexual relations with someone outside of a committed relationship without realizing the the consequences or doing so with malicious intent.

I'm calling olimario naive because he seems to have this belief that all people who have sex outside of conventional relationships are lower than him. And that if you enter a relationship without the intent to stay commited to that one period for an extended period of time, it makes no sense.

That is naive.

You don't have to struggle not to be naive either, Bill. I've done enough helping the homeless to know the worst life can bring, or close to it.

Look, if you want to cheat that's fine. It's not my place to tell you not to, but know it's not considerate or respectful. When you enter into a relationship there are certain unspoken rules that shouldn't be broken. "Not Cheating" is near the top of the list just below "Not killing family members".

It wasn't my decision to do what I did for the PSP, but it was wrong of me go ahead with it anyhow. Just because I claim Christianity people expect perfection and any slip up made results in me being a hypocrite. I've since apologized and done what I could to make up for it (selling it for her computer).

And I don't believe they are lower than me. I don't believe anybody is lower than me. I believe people who cheat and people who lie are inconsiderate and disrespectful. There's not much room to deny that.
 

Tenacious-V

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Willco said:
I agree respect is important, but it's just naive to think that people who enter a relationship together are necessarily the same people who leave one apart. People grow, people change and that's extremely important to recognize when you're young. Sometimes the passion dies and sometimes the person changes so much that you're naturally drawn to a more attractive mate and - shit! - that's something many will have to deal with in life.

It'd be nice if we could all have handshake agreement and things could stay the same from Day One, but that's a fool's dream.

I understand that as well, but if you're in a relationship with someone which was amazing in the beginning and end up with feelings for someone else, up to the point where you'd consider cheating on them, then why not break up with your current first, instead of flat out fucking behind their back?

I personally have never cheated on any of my girfriends! I've gotten to the point of wanting to cheat on them, but I've had the decency to break up first and then hook up with her. In my case it's not a matter of wanting to experiment with others as well, all people do... It's respect of the person your with to not do something like that.

I've rehooked up with my current gf for the 3rd time now. But I've never cheated on her. We've broken up and I took that "off time" to play around with other people, but I've never cheated.
 

Ryck

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I cheated on my ex of several years ( 5 actually) she was my first girlfriend and at the time it was just stupid youth. I met this girl who was a total demon in the sack and I was what 17 18, I had been with my girlfriend at the time for about two years ( we got together at 15 ) and I was pretty sure she had cheated it on me, so I went for it. I had a sort of affair with that girl that went on for a few months and later cheated again.....truth is I wasted a good portion of my life in that relationship I never trusted the girl and she never trusted me and we both ( I found out later) cheated on each other more than either of us even suspected. Again it was just stupid youth.

Im now engaged and I've been in this relationship for 2 and a half years never once did I even think about cheating, she knows all about my past as we were best friends long before we ever got together. And no Id never do it again....I've learned alot about life since then and would never do anything of that nature ever again.
 

Willco

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olimario said:
You don't have to struggle not to be naive either, Bill. I've done enough helping the homeless to know the worst life can bring, or close to it.

You're a real hero, Gareth.

Look, if you want to cheat that's fine. It's not my place to tell you not to, but know it's not considerate or respectful. When you enter into a relationship there are certain unspoken rules that shouldn't be broken. "Not Cheating" is near the top of the list just below "Not killing family members".

And here you show your lack of experience with the real world. If you think between the ages of 19-28, that either you or your partner will be the same person that leaves the relationship as they entered, you're a fool.

People change so much during their early years. Maturity, beliefs, everything. It's the reason why most young marriages fail. Now most times, you can end the relationship without the prospect of cheating, but sometimes that's a catalyst for getting out of a bad relationship. And sometimes good things come out of affairs.

You, actually, are exactly the kind of person to fall prey to infidelity. Young, naive and in a long term relationship that began at a major development stage of your life. Now let's say your little gal goes even farther off the moral deep end and you find the relationship more detrimental than beneficial. Will you end it? Maybe. Some people don't, as they've been in a relationship so long that they can't imagine not being in it. So they meet someone. They're attracted to this person and they have an affair.

Man, they sure are horrible people!

Or maybe they're just human.

It wasn't my decision to do what I did for the PSP, but it was wrong of me go ahead with it anyhow. Just because I claim Christianity people expect perfection and any slip up made results in me being a hypocrite. I've since apologized and done what I could to make up for it (selling it for her computer).

I call bullshit. You constantly howl on people for a smorgasboard of ethical infractions, using your moral high ground as reasoning to do so. You're a hypocrite and I'm glad this whole PSP debacle came public so everyone can see your shit not only stinks, but smells worse than most.

And I don't believe they are lower than me. I don't believe anybody is lower than me. I believe people who cheat and people who lie are inconsiderate and disrespectful. There's not much room to deny that.

Nice. You walk very well on that nice thin line where you can look down on people, make gross generalizations, but then say that you don't think less of them.

If this videogame whore brothel thing doesn't work out for you, you might want to try a career as a politician.
 

Boogie

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Waychel said:
I don't see how not sleeping around is labeled as being "naive" when it is simply having sensibilities about yourself.

It's called "GAF logic" I believe. Where if you believe in having a committed, monogamous relationship, there must be something wrong with you.
 

Cherubae

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Lil' Dice said:
I would also cheat on my spouse if she became disgustingly fat, and to me "disgustingly" is 20-30lbs overweight.

Your marriage is doomed. Divorce now and let her enjoy the rest of her life without you.
 

Raven.

Banned
Lil' Dice said:
Geez, this coupled with that "would you tell?" thread really makes me lose faith in relationships. =\ I just can't understand how cheating can be so common among so many people. No wonder divorce rates today are the way that they are.

Just seems that some people look at a relationship like a toy that, once it has gotten old, can be placed on the shelf while they go to play with something newer in the meantime. Why even commit yourself to a relationship if you have these kinds of faults about your loyalty?
You're young, and naive. Have you even been in a serious long term relationship yet?
You'll be surprised at how many personal imperfections surface once you put down the DS and involve yourself with someone of the opposite sex.

Even with regards to simple inanimate objects such as "toys", some indivuals... such as I are capable of maintaining indefinite interest throughout decades, most likely indefinitely(one of the reasons why I'm intent on gaining mastery over all information ffrom all fields that can be, the world which seems to be information... is so nougaty, so intriguingly flavourful :D .).

With regards to relationships, my abilities to maintain indefinite romantic interest at peak, that high which I've heard diminishes in others, it's certainly a plus and impedes one such as I from cheating. Though, that which some may call imperfections can indeed surface, one whose adaptability is boundless(capable of altering likes/dislikes/personality throughout the entire spectrum from the sweet to the salty, from the humane to the inhumane, from that which is gooey to that which is NOT.... WHICH IS NOT!!!) is unaffected by such.
 
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