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Ever cheat on a significant other....if so why?
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Willco said:You're a real hero, Gareth.
And here you show your lack of experience with the real world. If you think between the ages of 19-28, that either you or your partner will be the same person that leaves the relationship as they entered, you're a fool.
People change so much during their early years. Maturity, beliefs, everything. It's the reason why most young marriages fail. Now most times, you can end the relationship without the prospect of cheating, but sometimes that's a catalyst for getting out of a bad relationship. And sometimes good things come out of affairs.
You, actually, are exactly the kind of person to fall prey to infidelity. Young, naive and in a long term relationship that began at a major development stage of your life. Now let's say your little gal goes even farther off the moral deep end and you find the relationship more detrimental than beneficial. Will you end it? Maybe. Some people don't, as they've been in a relationship so long that they can't imagine not being in it. So they meet someone. They're attracted to this person and they have an affair.
Man, they sure are horrible people!
Or maybe they're just human.
I call bullshit. You constantly howl on people for a smorgasboard of ethical infractions, using your moral high ground as reasoning to do so. You're a hypocrite and I'm glad this whole PSP debacle came public so everyone can see your shit not only stinks, but smells worse than most.
Nice. You walk very well on that nice thin line where you can look down on people, make gross generalizations, but then say that you don't think less of them.
If this videogame whore brothel thing doesn't work out for you, you might want to try a career as a politician.
Like somebody said, if you get to the point where you've grown apart enough to have feeling for somebody else, then break off the existing relationship before you pursue the new one. It really is as simple as that. Feelings may be hurt, but at least there is no lying and no deceit.
And I used to do that to people, but I try not to anymore. Seeing the other side as much as I do here and learning to follow the Jesus was of handling things has shown me that it's not my place to condemn. I may disagree and I may choose to live my life differently, but if I've condemned I'm sorry. Not my intention at all.
And I don't think I'm making any gross generalization. It's called cheating for a reason, because what you're doing is not within the unspoken rules of a relationship. Cheaters are liars and they do deceive.
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What's both pathetic and amusing here is that I bet most of the guys in here take cheating in Counterstrike far more seriously. :lol
Sad...
Sad...
uh I guess I'll add that I don't cheat, wouldn't ever want to cheat and don't really feel the urge to. I do prefer real relationships, long term or just commited and I'm rather choosey about who I date.
Maybe it's because I'm ugly or maybe it's because I just don't want to do all the bullshit and games.
PS: Maybe I did cheat? Does a girl bailing on you for a month without contact and you finding another girl while you thought she had left count as cheating?
Maybe it's because I'm ugly or maybe it's because I just don't want to do all the bullshit and games.
PS: Maybe I did cheat? Does a girl bailing on you for a month without contact and you finding another girl while you thought she had left count as cheating?
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etiolate said:PS: Maybe I did cheat? Does a girl bailing on you for a month without contact and you finding another girl while you thought she had left count as cheating?
Eh... why did she end contact with you for a month? If she ditched you, I'd say it was a breakup whether she lacked the dignity to officially do it or not. That's not cheating, IMO.
etiolate said:uh I guess I'll add that I don't cheat, wouldn't ever want to cheat and don't really feel the urge to. I do prefer real relationships, long term or just commited and I'm rather choosey about who I date.
Maybe it's because I'm ugly or maybe it's because I just don't want to do all the bullshit and games.
PS: Maybe I did cheat? Does a girl bailing on you for a month without contact and you finding another girl while you thought she had left count as cheating?
I think after a month of failed contact attempts you can safely assume she wants nothing to do with you. You're safe in my book.
Waychel said:Eh... why did she end contact with you for a month? If she ditched you, I'd say it was a breakup whether she lacked the dignity to officially do it or not. That's not cheating, IMO.
It was my highschool years and her parents went a bit nuts and like gave her the "lockdown" treatment.
Waychel said:What's both pathetic and amusing here is that I bet most of the guys in here take cheating in Counterstrike far more seriously. :lol
Sad...
:lol :lol :lol
olimario said:Like somebody said, if you get to the point where you've grown apart enough to have feeling for somebody else, then break off the existing relationship before you pursue the new one. It really is as simple as that.
No, it's not. Again, you make gross generalizations about how people should handle a relationship, as if it's the only way, because you're young and naive and you can't see anything beyond your own ideals. I'm not one to have an affair, but if you can't undestand the how and why of infidelity, you're just ignorant.
And I used to do that to people, but I try not to anymore. Seeing the other side as much as I do here and learning to follow the Jesus was of handling things has shown me that it's not my place to condemn. I may disagree and I may choose to live my life differently, but if I've condemned I'm sorry. Not my intention at all.
Slick, but I see past your whole Jesus is groovy facade.
And I don't think I'm making any gross generalization. It's called cheating for a reason, because what you're doing is not within the unspoken rules of a relationship. Cheaters are liars and they do deceive.
Yes, all cheaters are liars and deceivers! The Lord shall striketh them down! Get a clue. There are indeed a good amount of people who cheat and do so with malicious intent, or without thinking of the consequences. Are these all the people who commit such a grievous sin (in your humble Jesus is groovy opinion)? No, they're not. Once you get out in the real world, and you realize how real relationships work, you'll probably realize that infidelity is just another part of how relationships form and dissipate. Learning how to deal, cope and avoid those problems make for stronger relationships.
Willco said:No, it's not. Again, you make gross generalizations about how people should handle a relationship, as if it's the only way, because you're young and naive and you can't see anything beyond your own ideals. I'm not one to have an affair, but if you can't undestand the how and why of infidelity, you're just ignorant.
Just because something is doesn't mean that something is acceptable. I understand how it happens and I understand why it happens, but that doesn't make it right on any level.
Willco said:Slick, but I see past your whole Jesus is groovy facade.
Stepping down and apologizing is a slick facade, Will? Really? You're lack of faith in the ability to change is quite sick.
Willco said:Yes, all cheaters are liars and deceivers! The Lord shall striketh them down! Get a clue. There are indeed a good amount of people who cheat and do so with malicious intent, or without thinking of the consequences. Are these all the people who commit such a grievous sin (in your humble Jesus is groovy opinion)? No, they're not. Once you get out in the real world, and you realize how real relationships work, you'll probably realize that infidelity is just another part of how relationships form and dissipate. Learning how to deal, cope and avoid those problems make for stronger relationships.
They are. You don't have to cheat with malicious intent to hurt the one who is being cheated on.
And I do know how relationships work and I know that infidelity is how some relationships end, but that doesn't make it decent.
You have the view that I think cheating doesn't exist and doesn't end relationships, but I do think that. My view is that it isn't right. I'm sure most people will agree.
olimario said:Just because something is doesn't mean that something is acceptable. I understand how it happens and I understand why it happens, but that doesn't make it right on any level.
I never said it's acceptable, but I'm not going to write off cheating as evil across the board. I know people who have had great relationships come out of affairs, or found the will to leave a very abusing relationship because they've met someone on the side. But, y'know, you probably don't think that such cases are worth hearing out because cheaters are liars and deceivers and the Lord sayeth so!
Stepping down and apologizing is a slick facade, Will? Really? You're lack of faith in the ability to change is quite sick.
Unlike Jesus, you really haven't shown much in the way of any progress to secure any kind of faith from me. All it'll take is a liberal think tank thread to make you implode. Maybe you'll post a thread about getting your haircut, and then post pictures of your girlfriend. Oh that olimario, he's such a character!
A stupid character.
They are. You don't have to cheat with malicious intent to hurt the one who is being cheated on.
And I do know how relationships work and I know that infidelity is how some relationships end, but that doesn't make it decent.
You have the view that I think cheating doesn't exist and doesn't end relationships, but I do think that. My view is that it isn't right. I'm sure most people will agree.
Only Siths deal in absolutes! And you. And probably some other people too.
olimario said:And it's not sick to me that cheating occurs, because I know it does, but that you find something so obviously wrong totally acceptable.
It's like somebody being okay with stealing or being okay with murder and finding those things acceptable.
Comparing "cheating" to murder and theft is absolutely the most retarded thing you've said today. On both forums.
Willco said:I never said it's acceptable, but I'm not going to write off cheating as evil across the board. I know people who have had great relationships come out of affairs, or found the will to leave a very abusing relationship because they've met someone on the side. But, y'know, you probably don't think that such cases are worth hearing out because cheaters are liars and deceivers and the Lord sayeth so!
Unlike Jesus, you really haven't shown much in the way of any progress to secure any kind of faith from me. All it'll take is a liberal think tank thread to make you implode. Maybe you'll post a thread about getting your haircut, and then post pictures of your girlfriend. Oh that olimario, he's such a character!
A stupid character.
Only Siths deal in absolutes! And you. And probably some other people too.
Comparing "cheating" to murder and theft is absolutely the most retarded thing you've said today. On both forums.
I haven't seen a single example of yours that even begins to justify cheating, Will. And from everything you've said it makes it seem like you do find it acceptable.
If you no longer want to continue a one on one relationship, you should let that person know before you're unfaithful. It's the decent way to go about the situation.
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Waychel said:What's both pathetic and amusing here is that I bet most of the guys in here take cheating in Counterstrike far more seriously. :lol
Sad...
It's true!!
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olimario said:I haven't seen a single example of yours that even begins to justify cheating, Will. And from everything you've said it makes it seem like you do find it acceptable.
Sorry you feel that way, Gary. I don't feel like typing the same thing in two places, and I think you're smart enough to multi-tab. I hope.
Tell you Dad hello for me!
pollo said:i dont see how someone who has posted pictures of his own genetalia online is close with God. Or even a religious person.
Religious person = perfect person?
I've made mistakes, some larger than others. All I can do is ask forgivness and pray for the strength and common sense not to make the same stupid mistakes.
olimario said:Religious person = perfect person?
I've made mistakes, some larger than others. All I can do is ask forgivness and pray for the strength and common sense not to make the same stupid mistakes.
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k.
Sadly, it ain't just a GAF thing.Boogie said:It's called "GAF logic" I believe. Where if you believe in having a committed, monogamous relationship, there must be something wrong with you.
Waychel said:What's both pathetic and amusing here is that I bet most of the guys in here take cheating in Counterstrike far more seriously. :lol
Sad...
Cheating in Halo 2 on XBL is justification for murder in my books. So you're right.
olimario said:Religious person = perfect person?
I've made mistakes, some larger than others. All I can do is ask forgivness and pray for the strength and common sense not to make the same stupid mistakes.
you repeat the stupid mistakes over and over
stfu
you're an e-attention whore. your GF prostitutes herself on a FORUM to your benefit and you have the temerity to play king of all morals?
get lost.
and don't give me any of that "well, she told me blah blah blah" garbage. what, did she magically read O A S one day and find morphix begging for pictures in exhange for a PSP and go, 'hey, this sounds like a good idea for yoy, gary. what do you think? we'll just repent later, mmk?'
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I have not been physically intimate with anyone other than my husband since I have been with him.
My father was a serial philanderer, and caused my mother so much grief over the years. His last affair carried on for 2 years turned out he was living a double life and the woman didnt even know he was married. Mum and him divorced when I was 14, he tore the whole family apart.
When I was younger, I hated people who cheated, I thought them spineless shit like my father, and there was NO excuse for it. When I was 19, I started dating a 38 year old. Over dinner one night he told be about one of his friends who was having an affair. I told him about how strongly I felt about it and that people just should not cheat if it aint working out, just leave, why cheat? There is no excuse for cheating. He laughed, and Ill never forget what he said to me. Youre so young, so naïve , its beautiful, with your high morals and expectations and clear-cut view on how the world should work its inspiring. I wonder how long you will hold onto that for, because as you get older, nothing is as black and white as you see it now it all becomes grey one day you will see how affairs happen, and your views will soften. I remember thinking Naïve! I hope when I am your age I dont let life wear me down to lower standards.
I have never forgotten that. And its funny, because here I am at 30, and I actually see how affairs can happen. I see the grey. I have seen break-ups and affairs and I see how it can happen, even to the best of people. I understand now what he meant, and I laugh at how naïve I was.
Funny. While I dont like what Dad did, I can now see two sides.
My father was a serial philanderer, and caused my mother so much grief over the years. His last affair carried on for 2 years turned out he was living a double life and the woman didnt even know he was married. Mum and him divorced when I was 14, he tore the whole family apart.
When I was younger, I hated people who cheated, I thought them spineless shit like my father, and there was NO excuse for it. When I was 19, I started dating a 38 year old. Over dinner one night he told be about one of his friends who was having an affair. I told him about how strongly I felt about it and that people just should not cheat if it aint working out, just leave, why cheat? There is no excuse for cheating. He laughed, and Ill never forget what he said to me. Youre so young, so naïve , its beautiful, with your high morals and expectations and clear-cut view on how the world should work its inspiring. I wonder how long you will hold onto that for, because as you get older, nothing is as black and white as you see it now it all becomes grey one day you will see how affairs happen, and your views will soften. I remember thinking Naïve! I hope when I am your age I dont let life wear me down to lower standards.
I have never forgotten that. And its funny, because here I am at 30, and I actually see how affairs can happen. I see the grey. I have seen break-ups and affairs and I see how it can happen, even to the best of people. I understand now what he meant, and I laugh at how naïve I was.
Funny. While I dont like what Dad did, I can now see two sides.
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Just because you can understand the "why" of how affairs can happen doesn't make them in any way condonable.
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