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[Zoe]

and tbh, your customers sound like asses if they care what someone looks like.

Unfortunately not all companies can afford to be so picky.

 

[LuchaShaq]

I'm also amazed at the people who think their unkempt beards should be okay no matter what. Baby society.

Try and tell a female employee how to wear her hair, or criticize her for having unkempt lip or leg hair.


See how well that goes for you.

 

[Zoe]

Try and tell a female employee how to wear her hair, or criticize her for having unkempt lip or leg hair.


See how well that goes for you.

He doesn't have to worry. The other women will take care of that behind her back for her.

 

[Race to be King]

Try and tell a female employee how to wear her hair, or criticize her for having unkempt lip or leg hair.


See how well that goes for you.

If Sunflower was a woman too, she could have a quiet word about ladygrooming if it was necessary.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Someone earlier said that professional dress doesn't stifle your self expression. That's totally right on. If your whole identity is focused around a ratty-ass nasty beard, I don't really want to know much more. There's more to people than their facial hair, and if that's your thing - what happens when it's gone? Are you all of a sudden nobody?

 

[Megasoum]

So...did the guy came in this morning?

 

[jmdajr]

Someone earlier said that professional dress doesn't stifle your self expression. That's totally right on. If your whole identity is focused around a ratty-ass nasty beard, I don't really want to know much more. There's more to people than their facial hair, and if that's your thing - what happens when it's gone? Are you all of a sudden nobody?

 

[FriedConsole]

Someone earlier said that professional dress doesn't stifle your self expression. That's totally right on. If your whole identity is focused around a ratty-ass nasty beard, I don't really want to know much more. There's more to people than their facial hair, and if that's your thing - what happens when it's gone? Are you all of a sudden nobody?

I think "self expression" is really about looking like their peers in their social group. Asking someone to cut their beard is saying "look like an outsider" to their sub culture.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

So...did the guy came in this morning?

The majority of our office is closed on Fridays, I am of course at work but not much else staff. I use it to catch up on work. And...gaf.

 

[Race to be King]

I think "self expression" is really about looking like their peers in their social group. Asking someone to cut their beard is saying "look like an outsider" to their sub culture.

Hobos are a sub-culture?

 

[Esch]

I think "self expression" is really about looking like their peers in their social group. Asking someone to cut their beard is saying "look like an outsider" to their sub culture.

There is no 'sub culture' that requires you to have an unregulated beard.

Unless this cat is a Sikh?

 

[usea]

He doesn't have to worry. The other women will take care of that behind her back for her.

Wow, real post right here.

The majority of our office is closed on Fridays, I am of course at work but not much else staff. I use it to catch up on work. And...gaf.

So what kind of beard is it? Show us a picture.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

So what kind of beard is it? Show us a picture.

I'm not going to take a picture of him, but to be quite honest, it is VERY close to this but a little longer:

 

[ConsumerSquare]

I was that guy, but with a short beard. Bossman made my direct supervisor have a really awkward talk with me about it. What they didn't count on is my deep deep well of spite. Following the talk, I went full caveman.

 

[jamesinclair]

It's called "becoming an adult". Your personal happiness doesn't depend on a scraggly beard. If you believe that, you have a whole lot of growing up to do.

It's fantastic that your happiness comes when some "superior" validates your existence by approving of your department-store outlet and supercuts hair. Hey, the VP might even remember your name at the Christmas party. What an amazing way to end the year!

But if you think "growing up" means becoming a Dilbert caricature, you're in for a sad, sad life.

 

[GungHo]

The majority of our office is closed on Fridays, I am of course at work but not much else staff. I use it to catch up on work. And...gaf.

Damn. We're gonna be in suspense all weekend.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Damn. We're gonna be in suspense all weekend.

Tell me about it. No steaming piles of shit on my desk though.

 

[BronsonLee]

Tell me about it. No steaming piles of shit on my desk though.

He hid it. Or it's fish.

Either way incoming smell!

 

[FriedConsole]

Hobos are a sub-culture?

Actually yes.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/white/hobo/intro.html

 

[Race to be King]

Actually yes.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/white/hobo/intro.html

Well kick me in the nuts and call me Bieber!

 

[toymachine]

you should cherish and value your neckbearded employee

 

[Trojita]

This is my beard

I had it trimmed shorter but it has since grown back to this size and I think bigger.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

This is my beard

I had it trimmed shorter but it has since grown back to this size and I think bigger.

That's alright, but any bigger...gotta snip snip brah.

I'd be okay if his beard were like that. It literally billows in the wind.

Might be a moot point - coworker of his came to me and said he's "making some changes" but isn't quitting. So I might have got through to him.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

If he does his work and doesn't give a shit about conforming in order to increase his odds of advancement then oh well.

You can "make" him want to give a shit about others may or may not perceive him.

Just tell him and let him make his choice. Maybe he's comfortable and doesn't give a shit about climbing the corporate ladder.

 

[BronsonLee]

That's alright, but any bigger...gotta snip snip brah.

I'd be okay if his beard were like that. It literally billows in the wind.

Might be a moot point - coworker of his came to me and said he's "making some changes" but isn't quitting. So I might have got through to him.

YOU DID IT VINCE *hug*

 

[The Lamp]

You work for a traditional company if they value looks as well as work quality

Fixed.

I'm keeping my hair long in college while I can.

 

[whatsinaname]

That's alright, but any bigger...gotta snip snip brah.

I'd be okay if his beard were like that. It literally billows in the wind.

Might be a moot point - coworker of his came to me and said he's "making some changes" but isn't quitting. So I might have got through to him.

Does he look like this?

 

[magichans]

It's fantastic that your happiness comes when some "superior" validates your existence by approving of your department-store outlet and supercuts hair. Hey, the VP might even remember your name at the Christmas party. What an amazing way to end the year!

But if you think "growing up" means becoming a Dilbert caricature, you're in for a sad, sad life.

Brutal.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Does he look like this?

Getting warmer. Thinner beard, and longer. But not by a lot.

 

[The Lamp]

Do some of you live in the real world?

A company 'isn't being run right' if they want you to wear business professional or groom your facial hair?

Do you go to your job interviews with shorts and flip flops and a button-down Hawaiian shirt?

 

[AndyD]

Wait, OP, are you in Dallas? If so, my friend may be your culprit. We have been trying to convince him to shave off the monster for a while.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Wait, OP, are you in Dallas? If so, my friend may be your culprit. We have been trying to convince him to shave off the monster for a while.

Nah, Titan Towers up in Stamford

Spoiler

nope, midwest

 

[Kentpaul]

Asking a man to shave a beard is like asking a woman to shave her head.

 

[Albino_Samurai]

Do some of you live in the real world?

Do you go to your job interviews with shorts and flip flops and a button-down Hawaiian shirt?

I would if it would be my thing, because i don't want to put on facade and not be myself.
People that judge others on their apearance are mostly assholes any way and i don't want to to work for these kinda people, nor give them any satisfaction bydegrading myself to that "fake" level.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I would if it would be my thing, because i don't want to put on facade and not be myself.
People that judge others on their apearance are mostly assholes any way and i don't want to to work for these kinda poeple anyways, nor give them any satisfaction bydegrading myself to that "fake" level.

Is "yourself" really boiling down to a nasty beard though?

That's like saying your sweatpants that say "joocy" on the ass is part of you. It's not.

 

[Mr. Robot]

So, has it been confirmed that OP is Vince McMahon and the employee is Daniel Brian?

 

[Albino_Samurai]

Is "yourself" really boiling down to a nasty beard though?

That's like saying your sweatpants that say "joocy" on the ass is part of you. It's not.

If the guy feels good about himself and performs well on the workfloor, get of his back.
Better yet, reward him for his work.

I see loads of people wearing runningshoes wich don't look excactly like athletes.
What's your point?

No man or woman should sell his/her soul to some corporate dick because they have a different social point of view.

The best people on my workfloor are a bit "excentric" according to "western standard".

 

[Deleted member 47027]

If the guy feels good about himself and performs well on the workfloor, get of his back.
Better yet, reward him for his work.

I see loads of people wearing runningshoes wich don't look excactly like athletes.
What's your point?

No man or woman should sell his/her soul to some corporate dick because they have a different social point of view.

The best people on my workfloor are a bit "excentric" according to "western standard".

But is a beard your soul? A pair of running shoes? I obviously want the guy to succeed, he just needs to look successful.

Fuck this I'm rewriting our policies to be MORE strict.

 

[Race to be King]

No man or woman should sell his/her soul to some corporate dick because they have a different social point of view.

I don't think the soul is typically located in the beard.

 

[Heel]

Fuck this I'm rewriting our policies to be MORE strict.

 

[KibblesBits]

I don't think the soul is typically located in the beard.

No, only the strength. #Samson

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

I have multiple piercings and have the beginnings of a beard and have never had anyone complain but if I had my boss tell me that taking out my piercings and being clean shaven all the time would help my career, I would jump on it

 

[jred2k]

But is a beard your soul? A pair of running shoes? I obviously want the guy to succeed, he just needs to look successful.

Fuck this I'm rewriting our policies to be MORE strict.

My shoes have soles.

 

[Peterthumpa]

But is a beard your soul? A pair of running shoes? I obviously want the guy to succeed, he just needs to look successful.

Fuck this I'm rewriting our policies to be MORE strict.

I really think that this is just a question of explaining exactly what you've been telling us the whole thread.

Straight to the point, like, "look, you know that our business and specially our organization values the potential of smart and dynamic people, and you fit in perfectly in this category. Unfortunately, a good appearance is also part of a well established professional and although the current trends justifies your current looks, I'm unable to move the idea of promoting you further ahead since part of the board is more conservative. So, we got two options here, which are pretty obvious, and I guess that you should value your carrer first and foremost."

This is about corporate policies and corporate culture, not about bullying or being too old fashioned. He should know about that. You're not at Google after all.

 

[Race to be King]

No, only the strength. #Samson

...unless it's a soul patch!

 

[MadSexual]

I don't trust anyone with a Vince Mcmahon avatar

This post is about Daniel Bryan, isn't it!


Edit: Holy shit, I did not notice that this thread was so big when I responded to the first page!

 

[Albino_Samurai]

....he just needs to look successful.

Wtf?
What are you using as a benchmark here?
The clean shaven, 3 piece suit, aftershave wearing, wife and two kids having "normal" guy wich just got back from a workout?

I would never do any business with people with your kind of mindset.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Wtf?
What are you using as a benchmark here?
The clean shaven, 3 piece suit, aftershave wearing, wife and two kids having "normal" guy wich just got back from a workout?

I would never do any business with people with your kind of mindset.

do you have money to spend? you shouldnt judge people based on their looks.

 

[davepoobond]

But is a beard your soul? A pair of running shoes? I obviously want the guy to succeed, he just needs to look successful.

Fuck this I'm rewriting our policies to be MORE strict.

That's one way to do it.

 

[Albino_Samurai]

I don't think the soul is typically located in the beard.

I was trying to imply that the beard was obviously part of this guys "character", or else he would have shaven it of allready.
Should have went with that in the first place.