Evil Within System & Hard Disk Requirements (PC/Consoles), strongly suggests 4GB VRAM
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Zing
. I'll clarify my point below on the blog as well..
At this point, we're not looking to post minimum requirements, we want to post the recommended requirements to play the game as it's intended.
Crimsonclaw111
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Seems like you're clear but their support might take a long time to respond... assuming you haven't had it for more than 7 days.
I'll take your key for you though if you don't want it
sort of joking
I know it's probably not your call here, but this seems like dubious customer relations. You're leaving a lot of potential buyers in the dark until the game actually ships.
Zing
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At this point, we're not looking to post minimum requirements, we want to post the recommended requirements to play the game as it's intended.
I really do get where you're coming from, but you should probably be more specific on what exactly that means.
Is it PC exclusive high end effects? If so, I really don't mind. Is it basic stuff like shadows on Dead Space, that, while you can play with them turned off, it's kinda garbage? If so, then yeah, better play it with 4GB only.
I guess it's too late to make a demo/benchmark, which would be ideal and let people judge for themselves if they're fine with whatever they're getting with their rigs, but being specific is the second best thing.
Dictator93
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The reasons for that a various.
Worst case: this game is unplayable on a number of mid-range setups yet they dont publish that before it launches.
It's weird seeing people blaming their video cards when this seems to be a case of a game engine once again failing when it comes to memory insufficiency because of the failed megatexture Technology.
If I was the owner of a >2gb card, i'd blame bethesda and id for their choice of this crappy engine.
If I was the owner of a >2gb card, i'd blame bethesda and id for their choice of this crappy engine.
Goddamnit i ordered it Sept 9th. More than 7 days.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Zing
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At this point, we're not looking to post minimum requirements, we want to post the recommended requirements to play the game as it's intended.
You guys must be aware, though, that it's the expected thing to do for a PC release, and not offering info about anything beyond these very high (by statistical standards) recommended requirements seems weirdly evasive and can only prompt suspicion about the product.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Is the game 64 bit only? You'd need at least 4GB of RAM if so anyway.
I don't recall if Wolf was 64 bit only.
s_mirage
Member
Wasn't the Megatexture streaming system supposed to be a solution to the problems of limited VRAM? Perhaps the devs aren't using it to its best advantage.
Well, whatever the case, at this point it sounds as if this might technically be a hot mess.
From blog;
Sounds to me maybe they didnt even build downgrade options in the settings and such.
I don't really care if it's my PC that isn't good enough or their engine, I just want to know before I lose my chance to get a refund from Steam.
It's not even like I'm boycotting the game because of that or anything, I'll just get it on PS4, but I need to know. If it turns out my PC would run it better than PS4 even though they strongly recommend 4GB, I'd be salty if I cancelled my pre-order.
This is the impression I'm getting - that it will be barely (if at all) playable on midrange setups, and they'd rather spare themselves the backlash until it actually ships.
The game doesn't look much better than other PC games that look comparatively better using fewer resources.
Zing
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At this point, we're not looking to post minimum requirements, we want to post the recommended requirements to play the game as it's intended.
Thanks for the transparency, but I really think Bethesda need to re-evaluate its optimizations. You are leaving a lot of potential money on the table with this requirement.
Kurt Russell
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While that's a legitimate remark, the real issue here is that the game strongly recommends having 4gb of VRAM.
4gb or more RAM has been a requirement since some time, and I'd wager that most people who game on PC have 8gb or more since a long time.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Question: so going forward with 4gb games, does that mean even a 780ti will struggle even though it's more expensive than a 970?
Which means a 970 is a better value and card. Right?
Which means a 970 is a better value and card. Right?
Crimsonclaw111
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I would assume so; the system requirements are exactly the same as Wolf's except for this new VRAM thing.
Minimum cards for Wolf were listed as GTX 460 or HD 6850.
Exactly one of the reasons why I stick to physical copies on consoles.
Zing
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At this point, we're not looking to post minimum requirements, we want to post the recommended requirements to play the game as it's intended.
PC demo please
I don't know if "most" is 100% accurate, but the Steam hardware survey reports over 40% of users have 8GB or more. (In contrast, less than 2% have 4GB of VRAM.)
When the devs are saying this, then no i dont think it will be good.
PC demo please
This would be welcome, cause if not, get the fire extinguisher come launch day.
This game has been for sale for quite some time now.
SlasherJPC
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*edited* Cause it went over peoples head. Not talking about you Kinggi.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Is that quote from the Wolfenstein developers?
This is a clusterfuck all around and it feels like an already niche title for PC is being sent to die. I really feel for those who wanted this game and are being burned by UltraMegaTextures.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It still may turn out that lower requirements will do the job with lowered settings, but I will not be surprised in the least if this is a case of Japanese devs + unfamiliar engine + IDTech5 + PC = OOHHH FUCKKKKK.
Is there even Japanese documentation for IDTech5?
Is there even Japanese documentation for IDTech5?
Dude that wasnt my quote it was from the website. I dont need an accidental ban here!
Evil Within devs.
While we have the game on PS3/360 and Xbox One/PS4, the PC release does not scale both ways -- it's on the higher end of the spectrum. As mentioned previously though, I haven't had a ton of experience playing the final PC build.
To put it another way, the opposite of this post below:
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Well, it's a shame, but I'm glad they were transparent about it. I'll stick with PS4.
He's just quoting the Bethesda blogs. People are making some ridiculous comments there. Especially considering they're talking directly to the people working hard on it.
EDIT:
Yeah, sure, but Shadow of Mordor, for example, is also a PS4/Xbone/PC only thing, the PS360 versions will be different, and it only asks for a 660.
See, I'm not in any way implying that since they can do it, you have to do it, not at all, all I'm saying is that saying it's the PS4 version doesn't really tell us anything about what "the way it was intended" means.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
First a shill and now a tattle, all in the name of this precious game.
They should have been transparent when it went on sale. Im gonna struggle to try and get a refund now. This is an exception and needed to be stated at the very start as most dont have the requirements they need. Irresponsible is what it is.
Not his comment dude lol
ClaptoVaughn
Member
It's funny the kind of shit people in this industry get away with.
It really is.
Are they going to tell us what "intended" is? It's 30 fps, isn't it? Just tell us it's 30 fps so pc gamers can stop looking forward to this mess.
24fps for that cinema feel.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Artist's rendition of Tango trying to read iD Tech 5 documentation:
Damn... I feel bad for people who really wanted it :/
Meh, even with those comments, I'm sure it will play fine on 2gb. There is absolutely no way they'ed send a game off to die with only <2% of the main gaming population owning the correct video card to play the game.
You'll probably have to turn textures down to high instead of ultra and if they have a 'fine detail setting' or whatever like rage did, turn that off too.
Obviously I have no proof, but come on.
You'll probably have to turn textures down to high instead of ultra and if they have a 'fine detail setting' or whatever like rage did, turn that off too.
Obviously I have no proof, but come on.
SlasherJPC
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Yeah, can't disagree about that. As I stated, I have nothing against making a game that only 2% of Steam users can run, on the contrary, I think it's quite ballsy, but they should know it's an exception and make it very clear. Even for their own sake, it can end up being a huge headache for them. Not everyone who bought it is following their forums or GAF, they couldn't know.
I do think they would, so it's very important to make it clear that it wasn't his comment.
Was about to jump on the PC version pre-order, but after this, I'm just gonna Gamefly it on PS4 and see how this pans out. GMG will have another 25% coupon soon enough if it's good enough and/or I'll wait for a sale. Seems like they have some nerve how they're gong about this and pricing it at the above-typical MSRP of $59.99 to boot.
spons
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How's that so? It's an engine developed with, among other platforms, PC in mind. It's an extreme simplification of things but besides porting some assets they basically just need to hit the compile button to make it run. If anything I'd blame the engine instead of the poor sods needing to work with it.
The Dear Leader
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EWFix Durante pls
SlasherJPC
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I thought it was obvious it wasn't his post. Anyways, removed it since I wasn't referring to him.
s_mirage
Member
I'm sorry but I'm just stunned by this. A game on an engine designed to stream for the primary purpose of avoiding memory issues, but somehow it doesn't scale and requires more VRAM than any other game on the system? Seriously?