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F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin Official Thread
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Swifty said:
The smoke from the first game was way too excessive though. Also, in the 360 version it looked ridiculous. They literally just put up the color grey on the screen. There's still smoke from gunfire in this game, but they've toned it down a lot (and it looks great). Personally, I prefer how it is now.
But you're partially right about the AI. They still do most of the things they did in the first game (taking cover, moving between covers, flanking, flush you out if you're immobile, using fire and motion to pin you down while rushing you, etc.). But it seems like they're much easier to kill this time around. Maybe because they're more out in the open (without cover fire) than in the first game? Then again, I rarely had any major problems when I just fought against the replicas in the first game (on normal).
Edit: to learn a little more about the AI, check out Monolith's blog post:
http://blogs.ign.com/Monolith_Productions/2008/12/18/108232/
As well as this behind the scenes video (although that's more like a self-congratulory ad):
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43268.html?type=
Ok, I LOVED the first FEAR. The reason was the incredibly hectic firefights (walls ripped apart, smoke and debris up the wazoo, blood and limbs flying through the air, reactions to getting shot....everything).
I don't care about the gfx changes.
Just tell me, is this sequel just as visceral in it's combat as the first? If so, this is a buy.
I don't care about the gfx changes.
Just tell me, is this sequel just as visceral in it's combat as the first? If so, this is a buy.
SonOfABeep
Banned
Really liking this game, especially the multiplayer.
I'm an odd one that played the original 360 ver multiplayer a ton though.
I'm an odd one that played the original 360 ver multiplayer a ton though.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
Why is there no quick save?
Why aren't mouse 4 and 5 recognized as buttons in the keymapper?
I was so sold by that demo, but thought the quicksave wasnt in (the demo) b/c regular save wasnt in. And I thought mouse 4 and 5 was an oversight for the demo, or something that would be fixed.
I am sad now. I concede to the 'wahh wahhh consolized wahh' argument from the demo thread.
Why aren't mouse 4 and 5 recognized as buttons in the keymapper?
I was so sold by that demo, but thought the quicksave wasnt in (the demo) b/c regular save wasnt in. And I thought mouse 4 and 5 was an oversight for the demo, or something that would be fixed.
I am sad now. I concede to the 'wahh wahhh consolized wahh' argument from the demo thread.
laceystorm
Member
Flunkie said:
i wasn't talking literally about "putting your seed in her" in the game (you don't do it w alma, sorry)....was talking more about the sexiness of the last scenes
TheBlackQueen
Neo Member
Xater said:
See this is strange because I haven't come across a single hiccup along the way. After the absolute mess that was the original F.E.A.R. port to the PS3, this shines. Jaggies do seem to pop up now and then, but overall I'd say the game looks and runs fantastically.
AgentOtaku
Member
Got to the 1st Mech part last night. Nice to see Monolith fixed the key-mapping issue
(It was the one were "E" was permantely mapped to "use" so I was constantly getting out of my mech everytime I moved forward ....I'm a ESDF player)
....Also, I loved the using the Mech
(It was the one were "E" was permantely mapped to "use" so I was constantly getting out of my mech everytime I moved forward ....I'm a ESDF player)
....Also, I loved the using the Mech
I am loving the game so far, but there are a few things that piss me off about the game. Its not to do with the actual gameplay but the shoddy oversights in the PC version these include.
I have to disable one of my monitors to even play the game. (absolutely ridiculous.)
I cannot map mouse button 4 and 5.
Shitty menus and options, cyclying through loads of resolutions is not fun.
Cannot remap the Tab button, and the F-keys.
Other than those few annoyances all is gravy.
I have to disable one of my monitors to even play the game. (absolutely ridiculous.)
I cannot map mouse button 4 and 5.
Shitty menus and options, cyclying through loads of resolutions is not fun.
Cannot remap the Tab button, and the F-keys.
Other than those few annoyances all is gravy.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
AgentOtaku said:Got to the 1st Mech part last night. Nice to see Monolith fixed the key-mapping issue
(It was the one were "E" was permantely mapped to "use" so I was constantly getting out of my mech everytime I moved forward ....I'm a ESDF player)
....Also, I loved the using the Mech
*mind blown*
AgentOtaku
Member
bistromathics said:
Wha? ....it's your primary typing keys ...makes more sense to me
...unless your being sardonic or something
I've stopped relying on quicksave in most games a long time ago, so I didn't find it's exclusion to be that bad. There are enough autosaves that you never lose too much progress if you do actually die. What I do hate is that you have to reload when you die. Why do games still do this?
Completly stuck now in Interval 08 after you find the keycard for the nurse's office and they tell you to head back there...I call the elevator but it doesn't come and there's one of those annoying fat ghost that revives and controls soldiers non stop,I have no clue where to go and wind up dying over and over...what am I missing here??
AgentOtaku
Member
Sinatar said:
I died twice the entire time ...one time was from a sniper and the other was because I killed myself with my own rocket
I had the same issue. ESDF here as well. The superior key map.AgentOtaku said:Got to the 1st Mech part last night. Nice to see Monolith fixed the key-mapping issue
(It was the one were "E" was permantely mapped to "use" so I was constantly getting out of my mech everytime I moved forward ....I'm a ESDF player)
....Also, I loved the using the Mech
Solideliquid
Member
"You are like free pizza at an anime convention. She can smell you..." WTF
AgentOtaku
Member
Solideliquid said:
yeah ...that line ...ugh
Fantastical
Death Prophet
What the hell? That's really in the game. :lol That's so sad.Solideliquid said:
Solideliquid said:
I didn't think it was that bad. First attempt at a joke and I'm about 6 levels in...
Anyway, I feel like the game is finally starting to hit a rhythm. They've been very conservative for the first 4 levels or so, but it's picking up now. If only the enemies could last more than 3-5 seconds... I really don't remember taking out the bad guys so quickly in the original and as a result there's not much room for the AI to shine.
AgentOtaku
Member
TTG said:
Absolutely ...I mean, it's almost like the slowmo breaks the game at times. You can't really play without using it as the enemy's aim is just too good and you'll die pretty quickly, but when you turn it on, you can walk all over them.
...I'm still enjoying the game but I'm starting to once again feel the formula fatigue only this time the enviroments aren't the issue. The combat and scare set pieces are still interchanged regularly to the point of complete predictability and actual plot is barely there. I just watched
Snake-fist get decapited
...believe or not I think the mecha bit was the best part thus far
rollingstart
Banned
Varna said:
I don't know if I'd say the ending is that bad, it's just...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Wow you guys weren't kidding, 7 hours...
Also the ending: Uhhh.....
So you think THAT ending was equal to the nuclear fucking explosion that capped off FEAR? Are you fucking mental!?
Also why the hell aren't there dedicated servers for multiplayer? How the fuck is this acceptable monolith? You built your company off PC games, hell FEAR started it's life as a PC exclusive, which is also where it got most of it's sales. The console version seemed to sell pretty poorly, yet the sequel is fucking consolized to shit.
So sad.
Also the ending: Uhhh.....
Varna said:
So you think THAT ending was equal to the nuclear fucking explosion that capped off FEAR? Are you fucking mental!?
Also why the hell aren't there dedicated servers for multiplayer? How the fuck is this acceptable monolith? You built your company off PC games, hell FEAR started it's life as a PC exclusive, which is also where it got most of it's sales. The console version seemed to sell pretty poorly, yet the sequel is fucking consolized to shit.
So sad.
Truly a great sequel that ups the ante from the first one. Better graphics, gameplay, not sure if the ai is better since I seem to blow through these guys easier, but that might be the longer reflex time and better aiming in this installment. Pick it up, dont think about if you loved the first.
Yeah the ending is bullshit. Up to tat poit I was happy that the story was more coherent and then they do bullshit like that. I'd also like developer end stories again. This trend in gaming finally has to stop. It made me even more angry because like a day before I "finished" POP...
AgentOtaku said:
I think mid to long range combat is the answer. I'm up to level 8 or so(making my way through the school) and anytime I'm using the sniper rifle or the assault rifle, it really clicks for me. It's been getting better and better with every level, actually I'm almost ready to say that it's as good as the first one. The fact that they put a lot more effort into the environments is just a bonus.
When it comes to the core gameplay of a FPS, Monolith are still as good as anyone in the industry.
AgentOtaku said:
The first game was like that too...but I think enemies may have done more damage to you in the original. I say may because the guys in 2 can actually kill you pretty fast if you let them. Playing through the first game (which I did a LOT) i almost always had full med kits (10 compared to 3) and mostly only bothered using them when I found a replacement. Fear on extreme -was- harder than fear 2 on hard, yeah (it was also had 5 difficulties compared to fear 2's 2), but both games on normal were pretty damn easy. I think people really overestimate the original's challenge. If you run in and just stay on the offense with judicious use of slowmo you can finish most encounters without a scratch.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
The ending really is terrible. The game is also way too short and easy. I came away dissapointed. I had fun with it though still. Definetely a rental since the mp is pretty meh
DevelopmentArrested said:
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Am I the only one who liked the ending? It was suitably fucked up for a game like this and really had me questioning wtf was going on while it was happening. As far as the actual gameplay is concerned the climax is a little disappointing (the music in the last fight was ace though) and it ended a little abruptly. FEAR did have a much cooler and more frightening endgame (starting with the moment you descend the final elevator into the vault).
Also again with the length complaints. I really didn't find it to be a bad length. It lasted me a good 8 or 9 hours my first time through which is perfectly fine and comparable to the original, but with less copypasta environments. I did take it quite methodically and took time to admire all the amazing details monolith crammed everywhere. If you're speedrunning the game on your first time through, you did it wrong.
I really hope they fix some of the game's quirks and add in those things that pc gamers expect, like dedicated server files (seriously wtf), but none of them detracted from the sp playthrough in the least. It really felt like FEAR, only better, and I loved every minute.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Is the original Fear still worth playing at this point or should I just jump straight to Fear 2?
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
ICallItFutile said:
Yeah it's worth playing but both games have so little story that it doesn't matter which one you play first.