HP_Wuvcraft
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Yeah. More than I could ever do, or am doing now.
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FakeGAF 7: The Dark Thirst Rises
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Yeah. More than I could ever do, or am doing now.
liliththepale
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This didn't get a real answer in the last thread so I'll be lttp
No. The wobbly movement comes from a combination of the arrangement of rods/cones in your eyes and saccade motion you involuntarily make. First, your detail receptors are highly concentrated at the center of each eye. These aren't great for tracking motion because they get lost in the minutiae but they're great at reading detail. Conversely, most of the rest of your eye is filled with receptors that are great at tracking motion, but not so great at filling in detail. Coincidentally, this is most of why we can only read a few words at a time and not like a whole paragraph in an instant.
There's also such a thing as input stagnation. Your brain stops processing redundant signals to save on processing power and just assumes you're still getting the same input, but this can be a problem if you want it to keep processing new things, which we generally do especially with eye sight. So to combat that we have saccades which are quick involuntary movements which dart the eyes around. It's essentially random, and it's going to be different all the time and for different people. This continuously gives you slightly new things to look at even when you're still glancing in the same general direction, which means we mostly don't experience input stagnation for vision. We do for touch and taste though, and often smell as well (consider: did you forget that your butt can feel the chair you're sitting on right now, or that you're tasting your saliva basically all the time?)
So where does this get us? Well the way our eyes are made you're always going to get a slight distortion as the less detail-perceptive bits confuse differences in the pattern as motion, since you consistently focus on different parts unintentionally. The pattern is carefully designed to be irregular in this way, pretending to be a regular pattern but not actually being one. Because the saccade movement is random, there's virtually no way to reverse engineer it to make it look solid. Although you could just draw a pattern that isn't designed to trick your eyes in the first place
Professor Beef
Banned
what would it take for you to delete it
This didn't get a real answer in the last thread so I'll be lttp
No. The wobbly movement comes from a combination of the arrangement of rods/cones in your eyes and saccade motion you involuntarily make. First, your detail receptors are highly concentrated at the center of each eye. These aren't great for tracking motion because they get lost in the minutiae but they're great at reading detail. Conversely, most of the rest of your eye is filled with receptors that are great at tracking motion, but not so great at filling in detail. Coincidentally, this is most of why we can only read a few words at a time and not like a whole paragraph in an instant.
There's also such a thing as input stagnation. Your brain stops processing redundant signals to save on processing power and just assumes you're still getting the same input, but this can be a problem if you want it to keep processing new things, which we generally do especially with eye sight. So to combat that we have saccades which are quick involuntary movements which dart the eyes around. It's essentially random, and it's going to be different all the time and for different people. This continuously gives you slightly new things to look at even when you're still glancing in the same general direction, which means we mostly don't experience input stagnation for vision. We do for touch and taste though, and often smell as well (consider: did you forget that your butt can feel the chair you're sitting on right now, or that you're tasting your saliva basically all the time?)
So where does this get us? Well the way our eyes are made you're always going to get a slight distortion as the less detail-perceptive bits confuse differences in the pattern as motion, since you consistently focus on different parts unintentionally. The pattern is carefully designed to be irregular in this way, pretending to be a regular pattern but not actually being one. Because the saccade movement is random, there's virtually no way to reverse engineer it to make it look solid. Although you could just draw a pattern that isn't designed to trick your eyes in the first place
You scare me sometimes
You Know Nothing
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Third pee break of the night.
This is why I hate beer.
This is why I hate beer.
If you had a bf or fuckbuddy who were into pissplay who knows maybe you wouldnt have to use the bathroom.
FUCKING DISGUSTING UGH
It's somewhat creepy just how similar our brains are to relatively dumb, metal computers. This is the same technique used in Doom to save processing power.
Also, theoretically it should be possible to monitor the saccades of a viewers eyes and adjust the image to compensate. Thus breaking the illusion of movement.
T
Transhuman
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What is that from?
You Know Nothing
Member
Keep everything but cum far away from me tbh.
Our brains really are brilliant and absolute shit at the same time.
liliththepale
Banned
It's also how most video codecs work. Every once in a while (depending on the complexity of the video) you get a new keyframe of full image data, but most frames only record changed data per tile, often a slight rotation or translation if anything at all.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Yeah, that was the other example I tried to think of. Tom Scott (amazing) put out a video recently that talked about this process. It goes into detail about why particles (snow, confetti) cause bit rates to fall when streaming video. Interesting stuff.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Our brains are actually quite amazing. It's really hard to do a 1 to 1 comparison with computing power that we know of.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
This GoT episode is rawing me in the best way
You Know Nothing
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Stop science shaming me!
You're just now watching it? A mess. It's insane. (Can't wait for the Hodor bit to be in the books just to piss off Jobbs.)
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
liliththepale
Banned
Man, he does a fantastic job. I would have loved for him to elaborate further on more points even though I already know about it just because the presentation is so lovely.
Hi Josh
grats on the sex
yo, what's it like celebrating memo day in the military? Awkward/solemn, or just another excuse to party?
liliththepale
Banned
my cousin's a book reader and I'm not (besides the first ~80 pages). At the beginning he's like "oh, that's
Cold Hands
Benjen Stark finally
book readers am cry
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Sensory adaptation is what the term is for decreased responsiveness of a receptor(s) undergoing continuous stimulation.
:edit wrong episode oops
:edit wrong episode oops
Lucian Cat
Kissed a mod for a tag; liked it
We need photographic evidence
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
We have ceremonies and stuff during the week but the weekend is ours
D
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So you're telling me there's a chanceThis didn't get a real answer in the last thread so I'll be lttp
[...] Although you could just draw a pattern that isn't designed to trick your eyes in the first place
You Know Nothing
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hard to take a pic of the back of your head without a mirror
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
haha i took a pic and it's gross. i need a haircut. i ain't sharin' shit
You Know Nothing
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The best characters on TV right now.
They should hang out.
Um, I don't even know hew the first one is. But you're wrong.
Elizabeth Jennings
and Dr. Thackerey say hi.
Wowy wow what a day.
Let's give a lihl update:
1, drank from 11-6 then 8:30-10:30 and now 12:30-1
2, I'm going to Argentina
3, met some guy whose wife (who he answered on the phone as "hey what's up dude?") who was told he has to get roast turkey or not come home at all, and then claimed that in the span of him going to the bathroom, he walked around the block and couldn't find a store for it
4, In the span of that guy being in the bathroom met a "professional midget tosser" who kept trying to give us the name and number of the guy to "get in the ring"/underground society
WHAT THE FUCK
Let's give a lihl update:
1, drank from 11-6 then 8:30-10:30 and now 12:30-1
2, I'm going to Argentina
3, met some guy whose wife (who he answered on the phone as "hey what's up dude?") who was told he has to get roast turkey or not come home at all, and then claimed that in the span of him going to the bathroom, he walked around the block and couldn't find a store for it
4, In the span of that guy being in the bathroom met a "professional midget tosser" who kept trying to give us the name and number of the guy to "get in the ring"/underground society
WHAT THE FUCK
hah
I call my girlfriend "bro" and "dude" and stuff sometimes so I guess it's not that unusual... (or maybe it is)
Of course you would suggest the white part.
You Know Nothing
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It's the patriarchy.
(But seriously, it is. Women being referred to as "bros" or "guys" is perfectly acceptable but the opposite isn't true.)
watch out for the natives...
I like what we have going why ruin it
She can call me girl names if she wants to
She's a step to the side. She's safe.
Lucian Cat
Kissed a mod for a tag; liked it
Lame
You Know Nothing
Member
Okay, sis.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
say hi to zkylon for me.
friend's girlfriend was talking about having orgies so hey.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I would love to, to be honest. But being a pro is very distressing (not to mention the fact that it requires some skills I'm far, far away from mastering) and I running a restaurant is something that requires your attention 24/7. But I would absolutely love a chance to become a partner in one so I can learn the trade or how to run a restaurant as a business.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Guys, I need advise.
What am I suppose to do? I mean, I assume they expect me to do something if they're following me.
What am I suppose to do? I mean, I assume they expect me to do something if they're following me.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Um, I don't even know hew the first one is. But you're wrong.
Elizabeth Jennings
and Dr. Thackerey say hi.
Mace Tyrell?
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