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Fall 2013 Anime |OT2| The Rise and Fall of Kyoto

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CorvoSol

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I can answer that with one word: Taboo, taboo is probably the number cause of most fetishes out there, its something your not suppose to enjoy, and that just makes you want it more.

Eh, I dunno if that explains why sibling relationships were not immediately disgusting compared to parent-child relationships.

I chalk it up to it being in a realm of stories completely removed from our time, y'know? Cuz when incest crops up now you're like "ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" but when it crops up in old stories about Greek Gods you just kinda shrug and go "eh, probably not the weirdest things they've done."

Man the stories I would like to hear from this.....

Never ever let someone tell you the Old Testament is not full of fun stories. Like f'reels. Those crazy plagues are only the tip of the iceberg.
 

cajunator

Banned
Finding decent pics of kon is a struggle, stuff is popping up that is decent like the one im using now, but still its overall just low, google failing

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Branduil

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Eh, I dunno if that explains why sibling relationships were not immediately disgusting compared to parent-child relationships.

I chalk it up to it being in a realm of stories completely removed from our time, y'know? Cuz when incest crops up now you're like "ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" but when it crops up in old stories about Greek Gods you just kinda shrug and go "eh, probably not the weirdest things they've done."

Well the Greek gods do a lot of terrible things, they're not the best role models.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Eh, I dunno if that explains why sibling relationships were not immediately disgusting compared to parent-child relationships.

I chalk it up to it being in a realm of stories completely removed from our time, y'know? Cuz when incest crops up now you're like "ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" but when it crops up in old stories about Greek Gods you just kinda shrug and go "eh, probably not the weirdest things they've done."
Anguishing over incest is for peasantry. Nobility and royalty have had no problem keeping things close, in both the East and the West.
 

Narag

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I don't think Adam and Eve's children intermarried. It's pretty clear from Genesis that by the time they were cast out of Paradise, there were already other humans populating the world. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense that after Cain kills Abel, he is marked so that any man will know that he is a killer.

Noah is a more interesting case because the floor was supposed to cleanse the entire world, and there isn't really much post-flood details with regards to the activities of the family right after. It would be reasonable to think that the flood wiped out an entire region though, and that there were eventually other settlers in the area.

Lot's daughters were straight nasty not just because of the incest, but because of the idea that they felt that it was better to get their dad drunk and get impregnated by him that way, rather than try looking for a normal relationship to start a family later. And they were both virgins to boot. It's just strange on multiple levels and pretty disturbing all round.

Stop making me want to watch Superbook.
 
You know, it is interesting, the way incest is received. For instance, growing up in a religious, western atmosphere no one ever bats an eye that Adam and Eve's children must have intermarried (or Noah's) or that Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings, but at the same time pretty much every kid I knew in Sunday School would tell you that Lot's daughters boinking their dad was the nastiest of things.

I'm sure that somewhere out there, there's Bible incest ero-doujinshi.

I'm even more sure that there's Bible incest slashfic, because I'm pretty sure I've actually seen some.
 
Ookiku Furikabutte - The Summer Tournament Chapter 02

You know, Abe's whole realization with his yelling voice might be scaring people wouldn't have been as great if Nakamura wasn't voicing him.

Actually pretty cool to see them see their enemy and strategize before playing their game against them. Definitely nice to see the events leading up to their game.
 

CorvoSol

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Well the Greek gods do a lot of terrible things, they're not the best role models.

Yo can you imagine a Greek Sunday School, though? "Don't you ever get in a competition with Athena or she will RUIN YOUR LIFE."

Anguishing over incest is for peasantry. Nobility and royalty have had no problem keeping things close, in both the East and the West.

Yeah but Rich and Boss as Abraham was, he wasn't exactly royalty, was he?

I don't think Adam and Eve's children intermarried. It's pretty clear from Genesis that by the time they were cast out of Paradise, there were already other humans populating the world. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense that after Cain kills Abel, he is marked so that any man will know that he is a killer.

Noah is a more interesting case because the floor was supposed to cleanse the entire world, and there isn't really much post-flood details with regards to the activities of the family right after. It would be reasonable to think that the flood wiped out an entire region though, and that there were eventually other settlers in the area.

Lot's daughters were straight nasty not just because of the incest, but because of the idea that they felt that it was better to get their dad drunk and get impregnated by him that way, rather than try looking for a normal relationship to start a family later. And they were both virgins to boot. It's just strange on multiple levels and pretty disturbing all round.

I mean, it's possible there were other people, or Adam and Eve just had a bunch of kids by the time Cain kills Abel, and that's why he's marked, so other children of Adam will know. Nobody really bothers to write that stuff down, though.

I think in the case of Lot's daughters, though, they get pregnant by him after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and they thought like, the world was over or something. I don't remember.

Aren't those the stories where God was pretty much an asshole before Jesus was born?

Yeah, I bet its fun.

Hey man, being wild and crazy before you have a kid is a normal.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Strike Witches 1-4

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It was bound to happen someday, so why not now. Premise is insipid. Characters are insipid. Writing is insipid. Still better than Nanoha.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Of all the things to complain about, this particular one baffles me the most. It's barely 5 seconds and one of the tamest "underwear scenes" I've seen in anime.

Come on now...

On the contrary, if it was only a moment, why did it need to be there at all? Doesn't seem worth compromising the way that the females in the show are typically presented (which isn't to say that there haven't been other lapses--topless overalls Hozuki in the OP is pretty gross and out of place.)

Oh my God.

/dead

Loooooool.

Just think about it. It makes more sense than anyone would ever want it to.
 

cajunator

Banned
On the contrary, if it was only a moment, why did it need to be there at all? Doesn't seem worth compromising the way that the females in the show are typically presented (which isn't to say that there haven't been other lapses--topless overalls Hozuki in the OP is pretty gross and out of place.)



Just think about it. It makes more sense than anyone would ever want it to.

Your avatar needs more Lum.
 
Not really, it's already making it "safer" than Oreimo by having them be unrelated.

Although I kind of want to see how they justify having a minor be involved in the porn industry. Most sane people would consider that a crime.

Well with Koe de Oshigoto, the main girls do voices for Eroge and one of the people at the studio is afraid of getting caught since that's illegal, but everyone else is like "don't worry, we won't get caught". And that's how that issue is resolved!
 

duckroll

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Aren't those the stories where God was pretty much an asshole before Jesus was born?

Yeah, I bet its fun.

He wasn't an asshole though. It was just tough love. Back then it was hard to get anyone to listen to you unless you punched them in the face. At least that's what it sounded like! The Bible is not the only source which indicates that primitive human society actually required a "might makes right" relationship between the rulers and the ruled.
 
Well with Koe de Oshigoto, the main girls do voices for Eroge and one of the people at the studio is afraid of getting caught since that's illegal, but everyone else is like "don't worry, we won't get caught". And that's how that issue is resolved!

Oh thank you god for telling me the name of this. Guess I can see what I missed now.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Well with Koe de Oshigoto, the main girls do voices for Eroge and one of the people at the studio is afraid of getting caught since that's illegal, but everyone else is like "don't worry, we won't get caught". And that's how that issue is resolved!

I think I know what happened to Pupa now.
 
He wasn't an asshole though. It was just tough love. Back then it was hard to get anyone to listen to you unless you punched them in the face. At least that's what it sounded like! The Bible is not the only source which indicates that primitive human society actually required a "might makes right" relationship between the rulers and the ruled.

For once, tough love sounds like sugar coating to me.

anime gaf goes into discussions i never expect to have in here.

We discuss Happy science, I'm not entirely surprised by what's going on here as a result.
 

CorvoSol

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Just wait until you get to The Golden Laws, then.

Oh I'm pretty hyped.

He wasn't an asshole though. It was just tough love. Back then it was hard to get anyone to listen to you unless you punched them in the face. At least that's what it sounded like! The Bible is not the only source which indicates that primitive human society actually required a "might makes right" relationship between the rulers and the ruled.

Also people were notoriously thick. Like you see this pillar of fire leading you out of Egypt and then you complain about how things are going?

Oh shit, what if the twist of new Oreimo is their parents are Kirino and Kyosuke?

I thought that was the actual selling point was this?
 

sonicmj1

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He wasn't an asshole though. It was just tough love. Back then it was hard to get anyone to listen to you unless you punched them in the face. At least that's what it sounded like! The Bible is not the only source which indicates that primitive human society actually required a "might makes right" relationship between the rulers and the ruled.

God and his chosen people turned the other cheek for hundreds of years in Egypt, and it didn't get them anywhere.
 

Lain

Member
Kill la Kill 6

I think the bullshit in this show is becoming too much even for me. Plus Mako didn't have any great part in the episode. Worst episode so far.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Also people were notoriously thick. Like you see this pillar of fire leading you out of Egypt and then you complain about how things are going?
Eh, people are people. Such stories probably overstate such things, as it's not like people changed since then.
 

Jex

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Continues to be the greatest man in all of Gundam history. Speaking of 0079 . . .

Mobile Suit Gundam 2

And while perhaps Ferty will find me insane (and let's be honest, when am I not?) I really must submit that MSG's better animated than SDFM so far. I think SDFM perhaps has better details in its backgrounds, but the animation in MSG really does seem better to my eyes.
It's really all about matters of degrees. Both shows can look pretty terrible in places and pretty great in places. (although I haven't seen all of Gundam) but Macross already has that amazing catching sequence in episode 2. I mean, did you not see that sakuga? That easily blows away anything from the first two episodes of Gundam.
 
@Corvo: In a bizarro universe there would be a FARMS anime

Speaking of Bible stories, there HAS to be a straight Bible stories anime out there, right?
 

CorvoSol

Member
Eh, people are people. Such stories probably overstate such things, as it's not like people changed since then.

Fair enough. Goes to show you nobody really appreciates a good pillar of fire.

It's really all about matters of degrees. Both shows can look pretty terrible in places and pretty great in places. (although I haven't seen all of Gundam) but Macross already has that amazing catching sequence in episode 2. I mean, did you not see that sakuga? That easily blows away anything from the first two episodes of Gundam.

I keep seeing the word sakuga pop up where SDFM is involved, and I feel terrible for saying this, but I don't really feel like most of what I've seen in that show qualifies. Maybe I've been overexposed to modern sakuga or something. I dunno, cuz the only thing I'd call sakuga would be the opening credits where the robot slides along and fires into the enemy mech.

By catching sequence do we mean where they open the cockpit to put the girl in? I mean I guess it was sakuga, but it didn't seem all that impressive to me.

But maybe I'm just a charlatan.

but she gave us this

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Thanks to RyougaSaotome for the gif

This moment made me laugh so hard.
 

CorvoSol

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@Corvo: In a bizarro universe there would be a FARMS anime

Speaking of Bible stories, there HAS to be a straight Bible stories anime out there, right?

Those BoM slideshows not good enough? That's Gainax level production right there!

We can laugh all we want, but a Book of Mormon anime focusing on just Mormon's section would be pretty rad. Battles between Meso American Jewish Vikings dying en masse, the rape/murder/cannibalism, the downer ending sequel hook.

Shoot, the only thing that would be crazier is a New Testament Anime. I mean like, Revelations would be the mother of all Gainax endings.
 

Articalys

Member
No time like late Friday night to do a re-ordering of my watchlist so far. Ratings are fairly distinct between tiers but more flexible within them.

Great tier:
Kyousougiga
Log Horizon
Yozakura Quartet
Phi Brain S3
Kill la Kill (despite episodes 2 and 4)

Good tier:
Samurai Flamenco
Outbreak Company
Kyokai no Kanata
Golden Time

Borderline tier:
Arpeggio of Blue Steel
 
We can laugh all we want, but a Book of Mormon anime focusing on just Mormon's section would be pretty rad. Battles between Meso American Jewish Vikings dying en masse, the rape/murder/cannibalism, the downer ending sequel hook.

Shoot, the only thing that would be crazier is a New Testament Anime. I mean like, Revelations would be the mother of all Gainax endings.

let's do it corvo

GOAT

although I am personally a fan of Ether's section for adaptation
 

Shergal

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Kyousogiga was my pick of the season, but the latest two eps of KlK have impressed me so I'm putting it ahead for now.

AOTS is Valvrave of course but split cour and all that.
 
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