Huh? You make it seem like you can't have a rape victim as a villain.
Quite frankly, I doubt most give a shit.
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Huh? You make it seem like you can't have a rape victim as a villain.
Quite frankly, I doubt most give a shit.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Well, now that you bring it up, yeah that was a bit odd.
I did wonder what was going on with the Gilette squad scene.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I haven't watched it, so this is a question. Are you saying you can never have a rape victim that becomes a "villain"? There's no way in your mind that allows a person to be brutalized and then become a villain either unrelated or as a result of people hurting them? The idea of "people hurt me, I'm going to hurt them"?
This doesn't just happen with rape victim stories. There are stories about child abusers who become abusive, etc.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Flowers of Evil 10:
Well, he deserved that. This was another fantastic episode, but I feel like I'm kind of running out of new things to say about the show. The dialogue was great, the direction was strong, and the material is captivating. It was another episode of Flowers of Evil. There are a lot of long scenes without a whole lot of actual action, but they remain fascinating to watch. I really wish that I had kept up with this show when it was first airing.
Well, he deserved that. This was another fantastic episode, but I feel like I'm kind of running out of new things to say about the show. The dialogue was great, the direction was strong, and the material is captivating. It was another episode of Flowers of Evil. There are a lot of long scenes without a whole lot of actual action, but they remain fascinating to watch. I really wish that I had kept up with this show when it was first airing.
phoenix296
Member
I'm sure it can be done but it has to be done well. In Future Diary there was no rhyme or reason to include her backstory scenes other than to have the character displayed naked in sexual poses. (Rape is sexy!) The main character is never made aware of her backstory and it serves no purpose to the plot. The way it was done left a horrible taste in my mouth to the point where I have to drop it.
However that's not my only problem with how Future Diary exploits women. There is a scene where a women is being held captive in chains and she is completely naked. What is the purpose of her being naked? Hell if I know! Not explained and nothing leading up to her capture. Just an excuse to show tits I guess.
NaDannMaGoGo
Member
Yahari Oreino Seishun Love Comedy wa blablalbla - 01-05
For some stupid reason I thought I should check out this show after reading about a planned sequel and seeing a bunch of hype for that. I don't know why I'd even consider that any kind of r/anime hype is worth the slightest damn, but well there I go.
Even after skipping through a lot of even these early episodes I just can't continue this shit.
This is just the epitome of generic harem anime. Holy shit those cardboard anime-characters that aren't even in the vicinity of being realistic, multifaceted human beings.
The cynical and, as the show wants to sell us, shunned loner (nicknamed "Hikky" for hikikomori) MC is already bad on his own. He actually doesn't really have social issues and is quickly surrounded by love interests.
But then there's even crap like the total butt-monkey chuunibyou (thanks for the term Trigger show!) friend and...a 'trap'. Yeh...just no.
edit:
Damn, this is #460 on MAL?
And the review at the top:
What. Well at least the first statement is correct.
For some stupid reason I thought I should check out this show after reading about a planned sequel and seeing a bunch of hype for that. I don't know why I'd even consider that any kind of r/anime hype is worth the slightest damn, but well there I go.
Even after skipping through a lot of even these early episodes I just can't continue this shit.
This is just the epitome of generic harem anime. Holy shit those cardboard anime-characters that aren't even in the vicinity of being realistic, multifaceted human beings.
The cynical and, as the show wants to sell us, shunned loner (nicknamed "Hikky" for hikikomori) MC is already bad on his own. He actually doesn't really have social issues and is quickly surrounded by love interests.
But then there's even crap like the total butt-monkey chuunibyou (thanks for the term Trigger show!) friend and...a 'trap'. Yeh...just no.
edit:
Damn, this is #460 on MAL?
And the review at the top:
What. Well at least the first statement is correct.
R_thanatos
Member
Ai Katsu - 22
In this episode , our heroine tries to go Super saiyan , only to realise that she was already at that level all along !
This was a fairly weak episode , all things considered ..but it was again saved by johnny-sensei & raichi that are the MOST entertaining characters of the franchise so far.
I'm really liking the continuity between episodes in aikatsu ..you feel like there is a flow of events , a narrative that is told , even with fillers, this aspect has been forgotten in many anime with this theme.
In this episode , our heroine tries to go Super saiyan , only to realise that she was already at that level all along !
This was a fairly weak episode , all things considered ..but it was again saved by johnny-sensei & raichi that are the MOST entertaining characters of the franchise so far.
I'm really liking the continuity between episodes in aikatsu ..you feel like there is a flow of events , a narrative that is told , even with fillers, this aspect has been forgotten in many anime with this theme.
If there's any Precure girl that Otome most resembles, it's Cure Rosetta.
R_thanatos
Member
There is her personnality that affect me too much . that lack of screen presence , that weightless "love you" catch phrase ... that feelign of no consequence on the overall plot .
i can't be reminded enough of cure lemonade when i see her.
Joe Molotov
Member
YOU WERE WARNED. IF YOU GET VICIOUSLY BURNED ITS NOT MY FAULT.
Please stay safe
I'm in too deep. At this point I can't be satisfied until I'm completely caught up on the entire Pretty Cure metaseries.
BassForever
Member
Yep, I imagine they were trying to crunch down the chapter or two of the LN this episode is based upon, knew they needed that scene because it will be important but cut for time all the parts which lead up to it. Kinda disappointing but with S2 being only 10 episodes I guess they don't have as much time for some establishing scenes :/
Gundam Build Fighters Try 2
Was wondering how they were going to get around having a love triangle, I guess by having Yuu crush on Sekai's older sister they can pair Sekai with Hoshino and either have Yuu hook up with the older sister or chase her for part of the season then hook her up with another girl in the 2nd half.
What is it about Precure of all things that compels people to do this?
UltraGunner
Banned
Wonder if this initiative will eventually make its way to getting dubs on Toonami sooner rather than later.
strangedopamine
Member
It's not just Precure. Gundam has the same problem, all those brave souls watching SEED Destiny and AGE despite everyone telling them to turn back.
Tyrone Biggums
Banned
The girl and the blue/red hair boys win the tournament, but SOMETHING HAPPENS and there is a bigger more pressing matter that they handle and barely eke out a victory in
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
that explains why its good
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Space Battleship Yamato 2199 11:
Once again, a really, really good episode. There's some strong character stuff here, and some really well written and shot scenes, such as the bit with Shima and Okita watching the propaganda film, or Yamazaki telling Shima about what had happened in the past. There are lots of great moments where you can just read so much into what a character is thinking just based on little shots of their eyes. There was a bit of surprise in terms of the reveal, in that
The only issue I had with the episode was that the fanservice felt a bit out of place, especially with how contrived the reason to get the characters naked was.
Once again, a really, really good episode. There's some strong character stuff here, and some really well written and shot scenes, such as the bit with Shima and Okita watching the propaganda film, or Yamazaki telling Shima about what had happened in the past. There are lots of great moments where you can just read so much into what a character is thinking just based on little shots of their eyes. There was a bit of surprise in terms of the reveal, in that
I had kind of expected there to be some sort of cultural misunderstanding, rather than simply being the humans being the complete instigators in the situation.
The only issue I had with the episode was that the fanservice felt a bit out of place, especially with how contrived the reason to get the characters naked was.
Haven't we had enough terribly written war stories??
Maybe it's because I recently watched Fury, but I'd like Band of Brothers Gundam style to materialize, yes.
Watch Da Birdie used one of my Goldfish Warning! screen captures in the opening post of his which anime archetype would you be? thread. Should watch the show if they haven't already! ;p
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phoenix296
Member
Jexhius has it in his compilation post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45940513&postcount=1325
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
So while Nafe is better at keeping records of everyone else's posts, Jexhius is the master at keeping records on Nafe's posts?
Joe Molotov
Member
I came for the Giant Robots, I stayed for the Rice.
BassForever
Member
If anything that's part of what makes it fun. In a "real world" Gundam if you introduce cool/unique pilots or Gundam you have to come up with constant plot convenience for why they stop fighting or escape IE don't die/get destroyed so they can show up again and again though the series. With Build Fighters the robots can get torn to shreds, the main characters can even be completely wiped out and still have their Gundam back to 100% next episode without some bs reason.
That combined with the fact the setting lets you do lots of crazy different kinds of Gundam battles from 1 on 1s to 3 on 3s to group free for alls to races to all out brawls etc etc. Plus it's really well written and well animated
And if you really want another serious Gundam you can go watch G-reco...
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
08th MS Team is there for you!
That counts as serious? It's about as goofy tonally as ZZ.
I actually have that post but it looks like you can't quote old posts? I actually had that post saved but my file might have been lost. I just meant it more that I think I'd have to copy and past all the links back into a new post rather than just simply adding to that one. That's what I thought anyway.
Believe it or not, the main appeal of Gundam is not the hamfisted geopolitics, though that's what makes it unique among robot shows, but the robots fighting robots.
GBF is robots fighting robots distilled into a pure form.
I can turn your words around easily to dismiss the whole of the Gundam franchise like so:
This kind of reasoning is shortsighted and pointless.
GBF is robots fighting robots distilled into a pure form.
I can turn your words around easily to dismiss the whole of the Gundam franchise like so:
See?Myself said:
This kind of reasoning is shortsighted and pointless.
SliceSabre
Banned
haly understands!
Oh yeah, I can see that. A better realized version of the grunt work initially presented in 08th MS Team, I'd think.
BassForever
Member
There was a reason for my ellipses, people do die in G-Reco and the story takes place in a "real world" where everyone is on drugs the whole time and the fights have weight to them. Obviously the tone is extremely goofy and the pacing is complete cray but in terms of the world G-Reco is a story of a real universe in conflict/war while GBF and GBFT is a story about kids playing with toys that fight other toys.
There's a reason why 0080 and 08th MS Team are considered by many connoisseur anime watchers to be the pinnacle of Gundam storytelling. It's because they're the only ones to treat the topic of war with anything approaching maturity. All the rest is power fantasy junk, like a Goodkind novel: Just because it has death and rape doesn't make it mature, that's a child's idea of maturity.
The fact that 0080 and 08th MS Team both take a backseat to the franchise's flagship titles (mainline UC, SEED) should be evidence enough of what people actually tune into Gundam for.
And that's what makes GBF a breath of fresh air. It honestly embraces the franchise's real appeal, childish fun, and cuts out all the dead weight.
The fact that 0080 and 08th MS Team both take a backseat to the franchise's flagship titles (mainline UC, SEED) should be evidence enough of what people actually tune into Gundam for.
And that's what makes GBF a breath of fresh air. It honestly embraces the franchise's real appeal, childish fun, and cuts out all the dead weight.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
8th MS Team has giant anus gouf and lightsaber jacuzzis, c'mon now
Yousei Teikoku are cursed to be resigned to bad series or cause bad things to happen.
Innocent Venus? Bad
Kurokami? Bad
Stigma of Qwaser? Bad
Magical Pokaan? Mediocre despite a good premise.
Future Diary? Bad
Venus Versus Virus? Bad
Work on Guided Fate Paradox soundtrack? Exodus of employees leave the company.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
They didn't really build up this aspect too much in the anime compared to the manga but mothers (women in general really) in this universe are supposed to be super sensitive to changes.
Okay, I found my other post with a bit of an updated list that goes to the end of 2013. Just look at this post together with the one I just posted for now then.
AnimeGaf Fall 2004 to Fall 2013 OT list
AnimeGaf Fall 2004 to Fall 2013 OT list
In a world where people frequently resolve conflict via magic space telepathy, it's practically realistic!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Bahamut is teh shit
Lie in April is teh shit
everything else sucks *goes back into hiding*
Lie in April is teh shit
everything else sucks *goes back into hiding*
Alright, alright, I got my numbers mixed up. I'd call it by its subtitle but it sounds like a Pokemon spinoff.
Breath regulus, breeeath.
Breath regulus, breeeath.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
That's tame compared to most series!
So what you're saying is that the real mark of death is this band and we should all be hoping the Soma OP isn't by them?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Shirobako doesn't suck.
The measure of a man's maturity is whether or not he can eat his carrots.
SliceSabre
Banned
Parasyte 04
Overall good episode. I do like how the story is showing a parent's love and intuition regarding their children and how the aliens don't seem to be able to account for something like this.
Overall good episode. I do like how the story is showing a parent's love and intuition regarding their children and how the aliens don't seem to be able to account for something like this.
Gives me a couple ideas about where the story may be going with the pregnant alien lady. Possibly her falling in love with the child growing inside her and some kind of understanding of human emotions?
strangedopamine
Member
Anyone spreading the greatness that is Goldfish Warning! is alright in my book!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I come here for the first time in weeks and Goldfish Warning is in discussion. I've taught you all I can.
You have my attention.
There's probably some other well deserving largely unwatched show that you could be spreading the message about.
Shirobako OT
Definitely a good show so far.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
It's the show I've looked the most forward to in a long time each week. It gives a great look at the production process for anime and what makes the industry work, while also having a great sense of dramatic pacing (and giving a good look at both the highs and lows of the process). It's really been impeccably directed, with every episode having really strong pacing leading to a lot of exciting moments. The standout show of the season for sure.
Also has the best main character of any show this season.
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