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Fall of Anime 2012 |OT2| O cursed spite, that ever I was born to UUURRRRYYY!!

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Maedhros

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SAO 16

Oh my god, this is so bad, this shit shouldn't exist in the world. Why people like this. Etc.

Am I doing this right, animegaf?

Anyway, I liked how Kirito's eye changed when he was analising the game, he's really a video game guy, lol.

Yui is back. Also... Kirito's sister is the best girl. Too bad she won't win, anyway. :p
 

Steroyd

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Aoi Senkai something something
Console Warz - 01

I'm still undecided wether the serious nature of this adds to the amusement, but the first episode isn't so bad, considering the ludicrous nature of the premise.

And lol at Teijoru getting moneyhatted, he just want to complete people.

SAO - 16

Oh no! The "daughter" is Navi.

Hxh question.

Which nen= ki blasts and dragon moves?

Emitters I think.
 

BluWacky

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Nerawareta Gakuen

Nerawareta Gakuen means “The Targeted School” in Japanese – it’s the same “nerae” as in “Ace wo Nerae”. The film was introduced to us at the screening yesterday as “Psychic School Wars”, based on a massively popular YA sci-fi novel that obviously no-one in the screening (least of all Jonathan Clements, giving the pre-screening introduction) had heard of.

If the film ever gets released as Psychic School Wars then Shochiku are total idiots.

I’m going to get discussion of the narrative out the way first because the narrative is the weakest point of the film. For about 2/3 to 3/4 of the movie it's pretty good, but it is not without its problems.

What this NeraGaku is really about is communication and connections between people. It does take the original story as a basis – of a school council controlled by a psychic student and the students who rebel against them – and updates the basics of it for the modern era; a girl driven to suicide by people writing insults on the blackboard in the 70s is now the victim of cellphone bullying, for instance (and the character doesn’t have the same story arc overall anyway). However, it is a completely different take on the material, not only complicating the science fiction elements but radically adjusting the focus away from pure pulp fiction to something more romantic – whether telepathy can really reveal what’s in other people’s souls, how to communicate true feelings, that kind of thing. All that, and Shakespeare references that make sense!

I’ve done some swotting up on the original novel (and I’ve seen one of the live action film adaptations already) and it’s become very clear that Nakamura deliberately subverts the audience’s expectations by doing this. The film is something of a sequel – characters from the original novel appear in it – but where this film traces similar paths to the original story it goes out of its way to change the outcomes for drama - or completely undermine them for comic effect. If the novel’s as well known to Japanese audiences as I think it might be, I can absolutely see this working for the film – but for an audience that knows nothing about it beyond a misleading English title this side of the film is completely lost.

The slice-of-life / romantic / whatever you want to call it elements – personally I’m going to trigger the firehawk alarm and say mono no aware, because that’s really a huge element of the plot by the end – are written very well IMO. None of the relationship drama is dragged out unnecessarily and the character writing is generally very strong and believable; the film’s emotional moments worked perfectly for me.

Unfortunately the handling of the sci-fi elements is haphazard. There are a couple of plot points in the film that would be potentially interesting if they were introduced properly, but seem to come out of almost nowhere. The worst offender is the whole climactic sequence of the film, where it seems that whole concepts are introduced out of the blue in order to provide an exciting denouement. What’s going on is great to look at, and the dialogue the characters are saying isn’t poorly written, but... it’s not that it doesn’t make sense, but it just appears to have no explanation as to why it’s happening other than “because it needs to”. Maybe stuff has been cut for time – it’s already a long-for-anime film at about 2 hours – but for people with no idea what the film was going to be about other than (supposedly) Psychic School Wars, the ending in particular really seems to have put people off, and this is a pretty major flaw.

I don’t want to bang on about the narrative’s problems, though, because there is so much good in this film otherwise IMO, not least of all from a technical perspective.

First up, it’s a beautiful film before you even discuss the animation. For those worried about the lens flare effects in the trailers, they are prevalent but never overwhelming. While every scene is awash in colour, it only becomes overbearing when the story requires it to – there’s a wonderful flashback scene that uses sensory overload as something of a plot point, for instance. For the four fans of Ryosuke Nakamura’s work in this thread, there are plenty of sakura petals, CG trains and gloriously sunny days in this film!

The animation is very lively – there’s a lot of interesting and/or graceful movement (and it was particularly pleasing to see traditionally animated accurate piano playing!). The comedic elements particularly benefit from the liveliness of the film – the female lead wants to be an athlete and she never merely walks anywhere, she’s always leaping and whirling wherever she goes, and it’s very entertaining to watch. What CG is used is generally very effective – aside from the trains, it’s generally used purely for supernatural elements and is pretty damn spectacular when it is used. Musically, the film goes to virtually every Japanese director’s favourite style – understated, wistful piano themes in general – which are always pleasing, and a couple of vocal numbers. The acting, as far as I can tell, was very good, although the voice direction is very much in traditional anime style.

I guess this veeeery long post feels to me like it focuses on the negatives, but without being able to post pictures or show videos it’s difficult to show what works so well about the film when it does work. I was mentally comparing it to Wolf Children in quality for a good half hour or so at the start, I thought it was that good.

Maybe I’m biased – I have been looking forward to this film since its announcement, and I am absolutely inclined to see the best in it. I genuinely do think there is a LOT of “best” in it, though – but whether other people are happy to see past the deeply flawed climax I don’t know. I’d be delighted to see the film again when I have the opportunity and re-examine it to see if it holds together better.

TL;DR - beautiful and generally very entertaining film unfortunately let down by poor handling of its genre elements, particularly to the detriment of the film's ending
 
Guys, what anime should I watch next between Shiki and Baccano!?

Also, can any shonen fans tell me if Toriko is worth watching or if it's another botched adaptation like Beelzebub? Thanks.
 

Taruranto

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I didn't get to post anything in the previous thread last pages. :(

I shall make up with this gif:

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Guys, what anime should I watch next between Shiki and Baccano!?

Baccano.

Also, can any shonen fans tell me if Toriko is worth watching or if it's another botched adaptation like Beelzebub? Thanks.

Shounen Jump anime are never worth watching.
 
Sukitte Iinayo 03


Hm, dunno what to say here. Don't like the two new characters or whatever. Do like that Mr. Perfect isn't so perfect I guess. It wasn't bad, would wish Mei will talk about it instead of rushing off but whatever, that's who she is.
 
Guys, what anime should I watch next between Shiki and Baccano!?

Also, can any shonen fans tell me if Toriko is worth watching or if it's another botched adaptation like Beelzebub? Thanks.

Its a pretty good anime, in comparison to all the chapters I read its really just as action packed and intense, and all of the viewer submitted designs work well in the universe. (and the OP is perfect)

Where did Beelzebub go wrong, a friends been bugging me to watch it with him.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
It's just not the same if they don't blush when they look into each others eyes, and they hold hands for the first time on episode 26.
Pure love is best love?

Sukitte Iinayo 03

Hm, dunno what to say here. Don't like the two new characters or whatever. Do like that Mr. Perfect isn't so perfect I guess. It wasn't bad, would wish Mei will talk about it instead of rushing off but whatever, that's who she is.
Speaking of that cat, the preview at the end was cute. lol
 

Steroyd

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Guys, what anime should I watch next between Shiki and Baccano!?

Also, can any shonen fans tell me if Toriko is worth watching or if it's another botched adaptation like Beelzebub? Thanks.

It's an alright adaptation, doesn't really have any high points (minus 1 fight), but doesn't have completely botched low points on the same level that Beelzebub did.

Pure love is best love?

This is why Yuri exists.
 

El Sloth

Banned
When I saw the thread locked I was hoping they finally banned all of you perverts.

Instead, the fungus known as AnimeGAF thrives and propagates.
 
School Days 9

What the hell, why is he so unfaithful.

@Regulus Terra: I skip through the boring parts, aswel as the OP/EDs and the quiet parts. ^_^
 
Almost caught up with SAO.

Shall I watch New World? Gintama was kind of boring, too many references to shows I have never seen.

Watching:

Jojo
SAO
Uchiha (from time to time)

Dropped
Bleach

What's the name of that new good soccer show? Not the fantasy one I mean.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
TurkishEmperor literally fell down a School Days hole at the pace he is going.

Can't believe I'm going to say this about the show in question but I feel it should be savoured slowly like a good wine. One needs to reflect on each episode before continuing.
 
Guys, what anime should I watch next between Shiki and Baccano!?

Also, can any shonen fans tell me if Toriko is worth watching or if it's another botched adaptation like Beelzebub? Thanks.

The Toriko anime is MUCH better than the Beelzebub one. It does have some censorship, but it's not terrible. The pacing is pretty good, sometimes going at a 3:1 ratio. Animation is usually pretty whatever, but it does have its moments of excellence, particularly one episode in the 40s. Now there is a filler character that kind of got added to the main cast, but fortunately she doesn't interefere with major scenes.

If you already read the manga, it might not be totally worth it, but I like it.
 
Guys, what anime should I watch next between Shiki and Baccano!?

Also, can any shonen fans tell me if Toriko is worth watching or if it's another botched adaptation like Beelzebub? Thanks.
Shiki is great, loved the soundtrack.


is SAO worth trying again? I stopped back at episode 3 because of how dull it was.
 
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