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Fall of Anime 2012 |OT2| O cursed spite, that ever I was born to UUURRRRYYY!!

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Extollere

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RurouniZel said:
Dude, you're totally speaking my language right now. This is how I am as well, and why I have such a hard time following a lot of the discussion here. I try out a lot of shows and usually end up dropping at least half of them.
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In general, like most everyone else, I think like things that I consider to be good. The problem is, saying this isn't really helpful when trying to find new things that are good. For me, good is some kind of balance between quality and enjoyment. I can excuse inadequacies in presentation if I find a high level of enjoyment otherwise (like story, or character development). And if I'm going to relegate myself to watching slife of life, or moe, it needs to at least *look* good - because I know I won't be interested in their daily bullshit. I thought K-ON was enjoyable, even though a lot of it was mundane, because I loved the way it was animated, and how the characters were drawn. Simply paying attention to the visuals was enough for me. And when Azunyan came on the screen I could feel my heart racing and my palms getting sweaty. To me, that's moe - it's that similar feeling that you get in your chest when you see a really good porn. This is why I can say that K-ON was good, even though it probably wasn't.

I really think I just need to drop slice of life and school-setting animes for right now. It's hard for me to choose what to watch knowing I'll have no idea what I'll get, or what I want. One show that totally surprised me was Spice and Wolf. If I were trusting my senses, I probably wouldn't have chosen to start watching it, as it was a completely random decision. However, it became one of my absolute favorite shows in recent memory. It wasn't animated very well, but it took place in an interesting time period, it had something to talk about (the corruption of the church, the impact of market manipulation on currency, etc..), and it also had some interesting dialog that sustained the less suspenseful parts of the show. It had an amazing soundtrack. Upon reflection, it maintains a very memorable and impactful show in my mind, despite some of its obvious flaws. So on one hand I want to remain open to the idea of being surprised like this, but I also want a more consistent way of selecting better viewing experiences out of the endless amount of shows that are available.
 
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Dresden

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Shin-chan and the Adult Empire Strikes Back, ofc.

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Deep anime for deep people who like deep things.
 
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cajunator

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More people need to watch Here is Greenwood.
Actually people should watch Iria: Zeiram the animation because its fucking awesome.
 
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Thoraxes

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I think by cause of the ripple effect I got two people to watch Texhnolyze.

The only other person I remember talking about it with was abf.
 
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Taruranto

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You need all to watch Fantastic Children!

cajunator said:
So who are yall favorite character designers anyway?
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I just realized that, unlike with videogames, i don't have an animu character designer i could call my favorite. I mean, there are a lot of anime and manga with pleasant design, but there is no one i'd call "my favorite".
 
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trejo

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I still don't think enough people have watched You Are Umasou. And I was also one of those who were trying to get a Violinist of Hameln train going to little avail, not to mention that I've been pestering cosmicblizzard to give Wakfu a shot for a while now. I made gifs and everything.

Also, watch Oh! Edo Rocket.
 
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Dresden

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robonote - 04

Think I'm done with this until I see some hype about where it goes. Pretty damning that after four episodes the only major character that's somewhat likable is Aki, and even then she's annoying in that forced, overly-enthusiastic way. Genki waifu, w/e.

It's all really mundane and the apathetic way that the lead approaches things is in line with how bland the production is. Perhaps he realizes that he's stuck in a boring show.
 
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cajunator

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_Keiichi_ said:
You need all to watch Fantastic Children!



I just realized that, unlike with videogames, i don't have an animu character designer i could call my favorite. I mean, there are a lot of anime and manga with pleasant design, but there is no one i'd call "my favorite".
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No worries.
I bought Fantastic Children.
Havent had the time to watch any.
Im mostly caught up this season so I can probably start it Sunday.
 
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Gutsy Frog

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trejo said:
I still don't think enough people have watched You Are Umasou. And I was also one of those who were trying to get a Violinist of Hameln train going to little avail, not to mention that I've been pestering cosmicblizzard to give Wakfu a shot for a while now. I made gifs and everything.

Also, watch Oh! Edo Rocket.
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Wakfu is pretty well known, lots of people watched it.

You Are Delicious is a genuinely great movie that will probably never become big among anime fans because it's so 'kiddy' looking. Despite that, though, the story was delivered in a pretty believable and human way (which is ironic given that it's about dinosaurs) and the animation was fantastic at times. The final battle was insanely great.
 
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cajunator

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I have Oh Edo Rocket which I had been wanting to see but was so exhausted when I started it that I made it half an episode and fell asleep on the floor.
Not the shows fault.
 
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Nafe

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Dresden said:
Shin-chan and the Adult Empire Strikes Back, ofc.

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Deep anime for deep people who like deep things.[/QUOTE]

[quote="cajunator, post: 43905549"]More people need to watch [B]Here is Greenwood.[/B]
Actually people should watch [B]Iria: Zeiram the animation[/B] because its fucking awesome.[/QUOTE]

[quote="Thoraxes, post: 43905616"]I think by cause of the ripple effect I got two people to watch [B]Texhnolyze.[/B]

The only other person I remember talking about it with was abf.[/QUOTE]

[quote="trejo, post: 43906088"]I still don't think enough people have watched [B]You Are Umasou[/B]. And I was also one of those who were trying to get a [B]Violinist of Hameln[/B] train going to little avail, not to mention that I've been pestering cosmicblizzard to give [B]Wakfu[/B] a shot for a while now. I made gifs and everything.

Also, watch [B]Oh! Edo Rocket[/B].[/QUOTE]

Ok, I'm noting all these down so I've got a list and at the very least I'll probably end up watching these shows if no one else does. I've actually been meaning to watch [B]Umasou[/B] but will wind up forgetting about it only to remember later when my free time is over. I saw a little bit of [B]Texhnolyze[/B] on TV years ago actually. I had never heard about it and decided to watch a little bit. Unfortunately I was so hit and miss with being able to watch it I had no idea what was going on. Maybe now I'll finally get back to it and be able to follow along.

[quote="_Keiichi_, post: 43905683"]You need all to watch Fantastic Children![/QUOTE]

I'm one of the ones who's watched the show now and I agree that it was pretty interesting. I thought you maybe would have added [B]Princess Tutu[/B] as well. I still have to see that show too...
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dimb

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This episode was far from perfect, but it was probably the best episode of any show that I've watched so far this season. The pacing hits its stride just right, presenting the entire picture upfront with the appropriate character interactions that push out into making characters more meaningful and the battles tense in spite of the outcome being obvious with some heavy foreshadowing, which I actually find I like in this situation.

Even with things unfolding the way you expect them to the characters are handled well, and motivations aren't always black and white but you still get a sense of each characters purpose. Not having a complete read on every character is something that keeps things interesting. Oftentimes in fictional works the way scenes play out is predictable because characters fall into very set patterns, but Jormungand is working to keep some of its cards hidden, and it definitely works here.

The show even drags you back in post credit sequence, so it's hard not to have a certain love for what WHITE FOX is doing.
 
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cajunator

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Yes Nafe you should watch Princess TuTu.
Aside from cat sensei which is one of the best characters ever, the show is a frenetically paced curious mix of dancing animals, forbidden love, and beautiful music.
 
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hosannainexcelsis

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I can't say there's been a particular little-seen work I've heavily championed, but if I were to pick one it would be Anne of Green Gables. Takahata adapts the already strong novel very well; the characters are endearing and the development of their relationships over an extended period of time is quite compelling. I can't recommend it enough. Also Master Keaton because Keaton is awesome.

These are both shows which are more like something you'd see in classic live-action television than what most anime fans are looking for out of anime, but that's certainly no reason to ignore them.

Dresden said:
More like it's because they'll never hear about it.
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It's sad; You Are Umasou is such a top-notch family film with universal appeal that it really deserves to have a wide theatrical release internationally so it can get mainstream exposure, but that'll never happen.
 
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Gutsy Frog

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One movie that I'll never stop recommending to everyone: Animal Treasure Island. Awesome 1971 'proto-Ghibli' film that, despite not being DIRECTED by Miyazaki, had a lot of input from Miyazaki and was a nice example of the guy's 'adventurous children's stories that simply aim to entertain us and don't bother with any messages' era. Miyazaki was credited as the "idea man" and animated possibly the lengthiest action scene for it; you'll know when you get to it, because it's freaking awesome. Not remotely deep but nonetheless a very well-made and entertaining ride.

Jexhius said earlier this year that the animation quality was worse than a typical TV series from that time period and... no, I can't agree at all. Obviously there are stand-outs, but it's consistently above-average, with the (surprisingly lengthy and common) stand-outs crapping all over most of the stuff made in any era. And I also disagree about it being disjointed as a movie. From where I stand, if this movie being a series of super-creative, cartoony ideas with little regard to an overarching 'story' is a flaw, then every critically-acclaimed martial arts film also 'suffers' from being a series of amazingly-performed and well-shot fight scenes.

It's also my favorite out of all the classic Toei films that I've seen. There are a few that I missed, but long story short: Puss in Boots has some great animation here and there, but not as much as Animal Treasure Island and suffers from annoying, pointless Disney-wannabe musical numbers all over the place. Horus: Prince of the Sun had very noticeable production issues and felt like a very rocky start for the more "serious" Ghibli works. It's still entertaining though, because some of the action scenes are great and it's interesting to see how Isao Takahata started off.

While still great and TOTALLY worth watching as basically 60s Samurai Jack with fluid movie-budget animation, The Little Prince and the Eight Headed Dragon still wasn't as unrelentlessly joyful and suffered from a pretty average climax. Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves deserves special mention because it's a movie that Miyazaki absolutely HATED (he said that he was 'the only one who tried at all' with the scene he animated, or something to that effect, because he's not the most modest man out there), but it's really not bad. It has a nice Dr. Seuss-inspired art style, reminiscent of Chuck Jones' Dr. Seuss cartoons in particular era, and is pretty unique as far as 70s anime goes. It's from the batch of LOW-BUDGET classic Toei films though, so the animation will seem pretty crappy if you watch it after all of the aforementioned films.

I couldn't even sit through Flying Phantom Ship in its entirety. What a boring movie.
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Most of the people in Monster are ugly as sin, but they have a lot of character.
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It always bothers me when people equate a lack of prettiness to 'poor design'. There's nothing wrong with characters in a down-to-earth, realistic series looking average; in fact, that's a great thing!
Uchip said:
by whom? nobody ive talked to had any idea what it was until they announced the MMO
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Maybe I'm using 4chan as frame of reference too much. Then again, I've seen a bunch of fan art of it in other places, and the Youtube videos have quite a lot of views.
It's sad; You Are Umasou is such a top-notch family film with universal appeal that it really deserves to have a wide theatrical release internationally so it can get mainstream exposure, but that'll never happen.
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It would be great is they just made more attempts to market anime to a wide audience. The great majority of anime fandom won't watch stuff like this because it "looks like a cartoon" or whatever but there's so much potential for viewers OUTSIDE of that demographic.
 
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hosannainexcelsis

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Gutsy Frog said:
It always bothers me when people equate a lack of prettiness to 'poor design'. There's nothing wrong with characters in a down-to-earth, realistic series looking average; in fact, that's a great thing!
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I've always considered it an asset of Monster and Master Keaton that Urasawa's people look like, well, people. His designs for Pluto are particularly interesting for the way they interpret Tezuka's original designs through this personal lens.

It would be great is they just made more attempts to market anime to a wide audience. The great majority of anime fandom won't watch stuff like this because it "looks like a cartoon" or whatever but there's so much potential for viewers OUTSIDE of that demographic.
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It frustrates me that Ghibli films are the only anime films that are able to get any kind of decent promotion and distribution here in the U.S., while better films from the last decade such as You Are Umasou and Colorful get ignored. Ah well.
 
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cajunator

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hosannainexcelsis said:
I've always considered it an asset of Monster and Master Keaton that Urasawa's people look like, well, people. His designs for Pluto are particularly interesting for the way they interpret Tezuka's original designs through this personal lens.



It frustrates me that Ghibli films are the only anime films that are able to get any kind of decent promotion and distribution here in the U.S., while better films from the last decade such as You Are Umasou and Colorful get ignored. Ah well.
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Everytime people mention Colorful, I feel weird because I remember what Colorful is about and how embarrassing that show is.
It was basically "the pantsu show"
 
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Cwarrior

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trejo said:
I still don't think enough people have watched You Are Umasou. And I was also one of those who were trying to get a Violinist of Hameln] train going to little avail, not to mention that I've been pestering cosmicblizzard to give Wakfu a shot for a while now. I made gifs and everything.

Also, watch Oh! Edo Rocket.
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Shiiiiiiiiit I knew I was forgetting something all this time, thanks for reminding me I still need to go watch wakfu

*leaves to go watch wakfu now*
 
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Gutsy Frog

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Someone praised this OVA before in the Lupin III Fujiko anime thread, but it's worth bringing up again: Monkey Punch no Sekai: Alice is great and the most accurate anime adaptation of a Monkey Punch manga ever (yes, it was adapted later in Mankatsu; doesn't count, the art wasn't nearly as good).

Note, however, that Monkey Punch's unadulterated humor, without the TV-friendly sedatives, has the potential to be very offensive; he's quite similar to Go Nagai in that regard. Don't get me wrong, though, this isn't nearly as fucked up as something like Violence Jack; it just might be really shocking to see Lupin-esque characters involved in such dark (albeit darkly COMEDIC) material, which is why certain people had a really negative reaction to this OVA.

If you go in with the right mindset, however, it's hard not to enjoy the hell out of it. I've shown it to three people who enjoyed it AND managed to change the mind of another, fourth person who initially hated it. The rapid-fire comedy is great and very Western in its delivery, as Monkey Punch jokes tend to be. The animation is pretty low-budget, but you can tell they did their best with what they had and it's really funny to look at. Monkey Punch's cartoony style nicely downplays the awfulness of some of the stuff that happens (which is something you can't say about the hyper-detailed Violence Jack OVAs). It's kind of like Panty & Stocking in that regard. You might think "man, it's not nice to joke about that!" but you likely won't be grossed out by the simple cartoon artwork.
 
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Dedication Through Light

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Durarara!! 7 - 14 + 12.5 (UFO/MIB)

I guess I finished the major first half with a good conclusion and what not.
Mikado Ryougamine being the creator of Dollars was a bit mind blowing as he seemed like the last one Id expect. No wait, actually Kida would be the last one. How everything came together was really well done especially for Celty's breakout performance with Izaya and Mikado being in league with it, all the cell phones going off was crazy.


Kind of split on a few characters Shinra could almost be a near antagonist with the way he has kept secrets, along with his father, about Celty or even for the sake of sharing information about her to others. He even knew where her head was. Hopefully he helps her get it back.
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Hopefully Ill finish the rest tomorrow, though not a fan of the new OP and new ED, its just not as catchy as the first one or as stylish with everyone being on top/hanging or supporting each other.

They also didnt translate the Russian to english in the dub, or at least provide english of the JPN on screen text during the moments when they do that :( and why is Shizuo in such a minor role :(
 
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wonzo

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I appreciate that they covered the hologram stuff some more and showed what "the internet" looks like but I can't say I was really feeling this episode. The mystery itself is kinda dull and uninteresting, the daytime stuff still looks really bland and the composition's kinda shitty at times. It also doesn't help that the show tries to look intelligent by dropping Nietzsche quotes and Book references in the laziest way possible. I will say I couldn't help but chuckle at
the blender,
Blood-C really is the gift that keeps on giving!

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Dresden

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They phase out "B" in the future. Ovama's English.

e: an act so insidious they melted down and reminted every coin from the years past.
 
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Mumei

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icarus-daedelus said:
While I admittedly couldn't name a single anime character designer to save my life, I'm a little surprised someone would pick Naoki Urasawa as a favorite, since I've always found his people drawings to be one of the worst aspects of his mangos.
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:(

You strike me to the core.
 
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