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Fall of Anime 2012 |OT2| O cursed spite, that ever I was born to UUURRRRYYY!!

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Novid

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As one aside - Any son of a bitch using Ayn Rynd when she was anti-racist, to promote racism should be smacked upside the head. There isnt such of a god damn thing as Modern Day "Conservitism" in the west because its all lead by porn hounds who fucked way too much pussy back then and felt bad about it and now wants to prevent other people from doing there daughters.
 
Same logo as the first leak:

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That validates the character designs as real, at least.

I haven't been following this, what character designs?
 

faridmon

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Naruto and One Piece are all that sells. Even than, the Naruto generation has grown up. They've either grown up, or have become fed up with being behind Japan constantly. Viz's Shonen Jump Alpha initiative is not good or aggressive enough. They aren't in deep shit yet, but the trend is certainly not promising.

But Urasawa stuff sells as well as niche stuff liek Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei and Maria + Holic. I never thought it would be in trouble.

But again, the prices are just bloody high. £7 for a volume? WTF?
 

cajunator

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I think one major problem is that the Cowboy Bebop/Evangelion/Naruto/One Piece/Bleach anime wells are running dry so the companies are suddenly trying to stay afloat without a guaranteed cash cow. What exactly IS the current blockbuster in anime? Aniplex seems to hold the keys to that particular vehicle right now.
 

yami4ct

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As one aside - Any son of a bitch using Ayn Rynd when she was anti-racist, to promote racism should be smacked upside the head. There isnt such of a god damn thing as Modern Day "Conservitism" in the west because its all lead by porn hounds who fucked way too much pussy back then and felt bad about it and now wants to prevent other people from doing there daughters.

2/3 of what you say makes absolutely no sense. You fit in perfectly. It's certainly a treat whenever you show up. Don't ever change.
 

Reknoc

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Been listening to the JoJo OP over and over again. It's so good, though it's so energetic I almost get exhausted just listening to it. The prolonged Jo at the end is so good.
 

cajunator

Banned
i was talking about how the dubber CEO's in the states are pretty "racialy" minded and they lock out everybody else who want to buy - something diffrent.

That doesnt make much sense. How are they being racist? List examples.
Afro Samurai was pretty popular and incest shows like Oreimo sell pretty decently if they are popular enough. How is the industry excluding anything?
 
Wait? The manag industry is in trouble? Isn't strifing off Naruto which the kids are eating it up?

Manga in the US has shrunk a lot from before ever since the anime/manga bubble popped. This leads to less stuff getting licensed especially the longer running stuff that gets left behind because not enough people will read them. Of course this also leads to companies not licensing everything under the sun (ADV and Tokyopop), but it has become a lot harder for stuff to get brought over if one company passes on it since most of the major US companies have partnerships with the Japanese companies, so if they don't think it'll sell well, it'll probably never get released here.
 

faridmon

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I think one major problem is that the Cowboy Bebop/Evangelion/Naruto/One Piece/Bleach anime wells are running dry so the companies are suddenly trying to stay afloat without a guaranteed cash cow. What exactly IS the current blockbuster in anime? Aniplex seems to hold the keys to that particular vehicle right now.

Yeah, since Death Note, there haven't an exactly Anime that could sell gangbusters and to be fair, IMO, The quality have dropped dramatically since those days. Either that, or marketing of quality ones have been terrible.
 

Novid

Banned
I think one major problem is that the Cowboy Bebop/Evangelion/Naruto/One Piece/Bleach anime wells are running dry so the companies are suddenly trying to stay afloat without a guaranteed cash cow. What exactly IS the current blockbuster in anime? Aniplex seems to hold the keys to that particular vehicle right now.

Thats true but its only 13 episodes and two films. Evangelion is diffrent because it was the "Most Dangerous" stuff out there back in the 90's. Sony (Aniplex) dont have a stable TV partner yet otherwise i would be seeing Kybey toys selling out on black friday at TRU.
 

Novid

Banned
That doesnt make much sense. How are they being racist? List examples.
Afro Samurai was pretty popular and incest shows like Oreimo sell pretty decently if they are popular enough. How is the industry excluding anything?

Afro Samurai was more SAG and union based and Funi is based in Texas, and because of the former - it got play on Spike if i recall. Oreimo is a bad example. What i mean is getting new audiances.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
Cream Lemon 4 - Pop Chaser
(SDBurton has seen this, right?)

Yes I have! Now you need to watch Escalation if you haven't already.

My Little Precure: Smile is Magic 18

This episode was ungodly amounts of Yellow Squid Girl being shounen as fuck.
WHAT THE FUCK KINDA ENDING WAS THAT YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD UP ALL THAT GAR ONLY TO TAKE IT AWAY AT THE LAST MOMENT

Nao-chan! ;____; NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

A lot of salt was digested that day.. :(
 

Extollere

Sucks at poetry
Yes I have! Now you need to watch Escalation if you haven't already.

I'm just about set to watch them all actually. This is either a really bad idea, or the moment of zen before reaching enlightenment.

On another note, next up to watch (at some point soon), are Giant Robo and the Patlabor movies 1 & 2. I'm also going to give Ghost in the Shell a spin. I've seen it twice, but it was so long ago that I barely remember it.
 

cajunator

Banned
Yeah, since Death Note, there haven't an exactly Anime that could sell gangbusters and to be fair, IMO, The quality have dropped dramatically since those days. Either that, or marketing of quality ones have been terrible.

True. Although I must say my heart is filled with joy at how well NISA handled the Bunny Drop release. I am so fucking happy. It deserved that fine packaging.

Thats true but its only 13 episodes and two films. Evangelion is diffrent because it was the "Most Dangerous" stuff out there back in the 90's. Sony (Aniplex) dont have a stable TV partner yet otherwise i would be seeing Kybey toys selling out on black friday at TRU.

Yes, it is and so is Bakemonogatari but right now, thats the hot hand and Aniplex is very lucky to have both licenses. They are absolutely capitalizing on it as much as possible.
My Bake set comes in tomorrow and I am so fucking excited for it. It looks beautiful.

Afro Samurai was more SAG and union based and Funi is based in Texas, and because of the former - it got play on Spike if i recall. Oreimo is a bad example. What i mean is getting new audiances.

What kind of new audiences? Anime has attracted the audiences it will ever attract. It has enough variety to reach a large audience but the stigma of BEING anime keeps a lot of people from watching or buying any of it at all.
Again, perhaps you can list osme examples of how it can reach new audiences.
Im actually interested in what you have to say, as you have a unique perspective on the industry, but instead of being so vague, tell us WHY the industry is fucking up and HOW they can correct it.
 

faridmon

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True. Although I must say my heart is filled with joy at how well NISA handled the Bunny Drop release. I am so fucking happy. It deserved that fine packaging.
My heart is filled with anger at how NISA handled teh Bunny Drop release: By not having an EU release.
 

cajunator

Banned
Exactly. Now becauuse of them having the right, It will never have a EU release. The same thing happened with the mighty Toradora!!!

Well doesnt NIS have other branches?
Its not NIS americas fault that there isnt a Euro release right?
Thats why they are called NIS america.
 

faridmon

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Well doesnt NIS have other branches?
Its not NIS americas fault that there isnt a Euro release right?
Thats why they are called NIS america.

They closed off their European Branch years ago. And yes, they are at fault here. You do not know how it broke me when I comprehened how ugly the situation was when Toradora (TORADORA!!!!!) never gotten any release.

I would really subsitute so many show so I could get that one.
 

cajunator

Banned
They closed off their European Branch years ago. And yes, they are at fault here. You do not know how it broke me when I comprehened how ugly the situation was when Toradora (TORADORA!!!!!) never gotten any release.

I would really subsitute so many show so I could get that one.

did you import the US release? Or is that not allowed?
 

cajunator

Banned
There's nothing wrong with episode one of Fate Zero :(
It was a lot of exposition sure, but there was a lot of ground that had to be covered.
Its a very long episode and it had to set up the history, the situation, the Holy Grail War, and the participants, as well as how each master got their servant. I think it did as good a job as could be done. How else could they have done it?
 

Saiyar

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Well doesnt NIS have other branches?
Its not NIS americas fault that there isnt a Euro release right?
Thats why they are called NIS america.

NIS America release games in the EU. I guess there is some sort of licensing issue stopping them from releasing anime.
 
How come there is no kindle release for manga? i would buy more manga if I had the ability to read it on my iPad.
Viz releses tons of Manga on iPad, im also sure that their sublime line of Manga is on kindle, don't know for other stuff.

I like the us releases of Manga, we get artbooks occasionally (my tsubasa one, one piece colorwalks), omnibus releases of stuff with color pages (loveless, evangelion) and some hardcover Manga, that gundam origin one is coming hardcover.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Y'know, whenever I read the name Viz I can only think of a dirty British comic staring Northern stereotypes.
 

Branduil

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As one aside - Any son of a bitch using Ayn Rynd when she was anti-racist, to promote racism should be smacked upside the head. There isnt such of a god damn thing as Modern Day "Conservitism" in the west because its all lead by porn hounds who fucked way too much pussy back then and felt bad about it and now wants to prevent other people from doing there daughters.

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Jarmel

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There's nothing wrong with episode one of Fate Zero :(
It was a lot of exposition sure, but there was a lot of ground that had to be covered.
Its a very long episode and it had to set up the history, the situation, the Holy Grail War, and the participants, as well as how each master got their servant. I think it did as good a job as could be done. How else could they have done it?

They could have done visual flashbacks. That said, a lot of the information stated in dialogue was later twisted and used in visual flashbacks such as Kerry and his airplane antics.
 
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