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Fall of Anime 2012 |OT2| O cursed spite, that ever I was born to UUURRRRYYY!!

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Risette

A Good Citizen
I think Japan is testing 4k OTA and TV makers always want something new to get consumers to keep buying new TVs, so it seems like something that will happen eventually.
Yeah, iirc NHK tested 4K OTA and compressed it came out to like 250Mbps. Lol. That's over 5 times the recommended max bitrate of the Blu-ray spec.

Hopefully H.265 will alleviate some of those problems, though.
 

wonzo

Banned
SSO 29
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Ehh, not really felling this at all. I guess I'd appreciate it if I was a fan of the old series and knew more about some of the older saints. Until they
show Aria's dead and rotting corpse
then I don't think I'll be able to not begrudgingly anticipate some kinda dumb
revive/alive all along ass-pull
and I really wouldn't put it past this show to do that.

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i don't even know where to begin with this
 
I'm thinking of Kuroko no Basket.

29th highest rated anime ever and 2nd best sports anime...and personally, best sports series ever, you cant go wrong. Only disappointing thing is a lack of a season 2.


How was Knight in the Area? Unless you dropped it.

It had its moments and Im still waiting for an s2 since well the ending is just at a not good point. Anime split time between girls team, Nadeshiko JPN, who played better than the main characters team which was odd however the games for all were fun, and it was refreshing to not stick to only Enoshima games...however the story of Kakeru and co was interesting to follow and beach soccer never got old. Worth watching if you have nothing else to do, it was the only other anime apart from Accel World, that came out on fridays on my schedule.

-are gifs just never working on chrome or something, I assume people posted some they just never work for me anymore.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Yeah, iirc NHK tested 4K OTA and compressed it came out to like 250Mbps. Lol. That's over 5 times the recommended max bitrate of the Blu-ray spec.

Hopefully H.265 will alleviate some of those problems, though.
Compression will have to save us, otherwise they're going to have to start selling fucking SSDs or hard drives and a movie will cost hundreds of dollars. lol

29th highest rated anime ever and 2nd best sports anime...and personally, best sports series ever, you cant go wrong. Only disappointing thing is a lack of a season 2.


It had its moments and Im still waiting for an s2 since well the ending is just at a not good point. Anime split time between girls team, Nadeshiko JPN, who played better than the main characters team which was odd however the games for all were fun, and it was refreshing to not stick to only Enoshima games...however the story of Kakeru and co was interesting to follow and beach soccer never got old. Worth watching if you have nothing else to do, it was the only other anime apart from Accel World, that came out on fridays on my schedule.


Come on DTL... if you take out the yaoi factor, even you have to admit Ginga e Kickoff is the best sports anime this year!
 
Both have their own ways of shutting down discussion. Cajunator is more insidious because he does it with a smile on his face while he fills space and renders individual positions irrelevant.

"This show has a few key issues, like A, B, and C."

"I LOVE THAT SHOW."

"..."
:lol I don't see how that shuts down discussion, though. It's not cajun's fault if no one else is willing to reply to that person's post, and if someone does, then cajun has shut down nothing.
Texhnolyze 18

Jesu christ, I thought Shinji was done with Hal.
Texhnolyze is never "done with" anyone.

I honestly forgot that point. Yes, that was also a factor, but since YuruYuri threads were basically image dumps they were easy to ignore. I mean they can make some funny content. The pie gifs from Another were great fun, but in the end it's just not worth the aggravation.
...Another pie gifs? I only ever go there once in a blue moon for Muv-Luv discussion, so I don't blame you.
 

Maedhros

Member
SSO 29


Ehh, not really felling this at all. I guess I'd appreciate it if I was a fan of the old series and knew more about some of the older saints. Until they
show Aria's dead and rotting corpse
then I don't think I'll be able to not begrudgingly anticipate some kinda dumb
revive/alive all along ass-pull
and I really wouldn't put it past this show to do that.

ssomega29b.jpg


i don't even know where to begin with this

I don't think the word bones was used in this passage...
 

OceanBlue

Member
Both have their own ways of shutting down discussion. Cajunator is more insidious because he does it with a smile on his face while he fills space and renders individual positions irrelevant.

"This show has a few key issues, like A, B, and C."

"I LOVE THAT SHOW."

"..."

I think you guys are being a little harsh towards Cajunator. Conversation on this thread doesn't only occur between two people, and if someone responds to someone else, that doesn't exclude anyone else from starting a discussion either. If a discussion really goes that way, taking Cajunator out of the picture would mean that the post would just get ignored. If someone wants to discuss those few key issues, they will. I don't see how Cajunator shuts down discussion.
 

wonzo

Banned
"No." - pizzaroll, animeGAF 2012
I honestly don't remember the last time pizzaroll made a one word reply so I don't really get your point.

I guess that as long as we're getting new members, it's inevitable that certain things that have been talked to death will wise from their gwave periodically. I just happen to take meta-discussion as a sign that people are invested in the thread, which is at least well-intentioned and not just self-aggrandizement. Apparently I'm just totally oblivious to how annoyed other people are by it, lol.
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Yeah, iirc NHK tested 4K OTA and compressed it came out to like 250Mbps. Lol. That's over 5 times the recommended max bitrate of the Blu-ray spec.

Hopefully H.265 will alleviate some of those problems, though.
Jesus, even factoring in the increased resolution that's pretty insane.
 

Branduil

Member
I doubt there will be much of a market for 4K and better any time soon. Virtually all modern anime would be upscales at that resolution, so it would only be useful for older anime produced on film.
 

OceanBlue

Member
Yeah, iirc NHK tested 4K OTA and compressed it came out to like 250Mbps. Lol. That's over 5 times the recommended max bitrate of the Blu-ray spec.

Hopefully H.265 will alleviate some of those problems, though.

Lol, holy crap.
Here are some other values if people want to get a sense of how big that is compared to what we have now:
Code:
Channel                Resolution    Average Bitrate    Peak Bitrate
 
TNT             1920x1080          17.8             19.4
ESPN            1280x720           18.1             19.4
ESPN2           1280x720           17.8             19.4
NFL Network     1920x1080          16.8             17.0
CSN MidAtlantic 1920x1080          16.6             17.7
HD Net          1920x1080          17.3             19.2
HD Net Movies   1920x1080          17.2             18.7
Universal       1920x1080          10.5               ?
HD Theater      1920x1080          17.2             18.2
National Geo.   1280x720           13.3
MHD             1920x1080          17.0             18.1
Food Network    1920x1080          14.2             15.0
HGTV            1920x1080          14.0               ?
A&E             1280x720           18.0             18.2
Animal Planet   1920x1080          12.5             15.0
Discovery       1920x1080          12.5             15.0
Science         1920x1080          12.5             15.0
TLC             1920x1080          12.5             15.0
HBO             1920x1080          11.0             14.5
Cinemax         1920x1080          11.0             14.5
Showtime        1920x1080          12.0             14.5
TMC             1920x1080          12.0             14.5
Starz!          1920x1080          11.0             14.0
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/hdt...-question-about-hdtv-bitrate.html#post1229973
 

Noirulus

Member
It had its moments and Im still waiting for an s2 since well the ending is just at a not good point. Anime split time between girls team, Nadeshiko JPN, who played better than the main characters team which was odd however the games for all were fun, and it was refreshing to not stick to only Enoshima games...however the story of Kakeru and co was interesting to follow and beach soccer never got old. Worth watching if you have nothing else to do, it was the only other anime apart from Accel World, that came out on fridays on my schedule.

-are gifs just never working on chrome or something, I assume people posted some they just never work for me anymore.

Thanks for the response. I might give it another chance but the animation in the first episode was very off-putting.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I doubt there will be much of a market for 4K and better any time soon. Virtually all modern anime would be upscales at that resolution, so it would only be useful older anime produced on film.
It'll probably be more for live action stuff, definitely.

They just need to shoot another version of Planet Earth that features even more nature porn and that will convince people to make the move.
 

Branduil

Member
It'll probably be more for live action stuff, definitely.

They just need to shoot another version of Planet Earth that features even more nature porn and that will convince people to make the move.

I honestly doubt most people are going to be interested in 4K anything. It's diminishing returns at this point unless you have an absolutely massive TV.
 

Narag

Member
Texhnolyze 19

Definitely not what I thought the outside would be. Never really considered how localized that technology was.
This turned so fucking creepy and bizarre too. Dat history of Lukuss.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
I doubt there will be much of a market for 4K and better any time soon. Virtually all modern anime would be upscales at that resolution, so it would only be useful for older anime produced on film.
Even then, companies would be too cheap to produce modern 4K scans.

Resolution at a certain point is stupid anyways, and 1080p is pretty much that point for consumer displays -- 4K benefits stuff like theater screens. Diminishing returns. We need to focus on better color depth and things like that. 10-bit 4:4:4 1080p would be neat.
It'll probably be more for live action stuff, definitely.

They just need to shoot another version of Planet Earth that features even more nature porn and that will convince people to make the move.
No, if anything it's even less for live action. Resolution plummets when cameras and/or subjects of the camera move.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I honestly doubt most people are going to be interested in 4K anything. It's diminishing returns at this point unless you have an absolutely massive TV.
It's for the Kevin Smiths of the world who buy 104" TVs and cram them into their living room. lol

Then again, people who say they've seen 4k/8k content in person do seem to be impressed by it.

No, if anything it's even less for live action. Resolution plummets when cameras and/or subjects of the camera move.
Really? Why does that happen?
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Really? Why does that happen?
Camera limitations. This is from an article about 4K/6K transfers and not 4K consumer displays, but it's pretty relevant:
“A 6K transfer is just an attempt at marketing position," declares Lowry Digital Images' Chief Technical Officer John Lowry, who's done high-definition and 4K transfers on some of Hollywood's greatest films, including North by Northwest, Gone with the Wind, Citizen Kane, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Singin' in the Rain, and the Indiana Jones and Star Wars collections. "Everything on film is captured at 4K, down to the film grain. In fact, if there is any motion, there’s even less resolution than 4K. If the camera pans, there’s less than 4K. The bottom line is this measurement of resolution is fragile. Any movement, and you’re probably at 2 or 3K in terms of actual resolution due to the blurring caused by camera shutter limitations (similar to how movement causes a blurry image when you’re shooting a still frame picture). Even slight camera pans and tilts will cause this. If you’re gonna talk about 6K, why not 8K, or 10K? At some point, it just becomes ridiculous. Bottom line: 4K is pretty darn good.”
 

Branduil

Member
Even then, companies would be too cheap to produce modern 4K scans.

Resolution at a certain point is stupid anyways, and 1080p is pretty much that point for consumer displays -- 4K benefits stuff like theater screens. Diminishing returns. We need to focus on better color depth and things like that. 10-bit 4:4:4 1080p would be neat.

No, if anything it's even less for live action. Resolution plummets when cameras move.

Better quality pixels instead of just more is the smart way to go, but that's harder to sell.

4K and 8K would be more useful for computer monitors.
 

cajunator

Banned
:lol I don't see how that shuts down discussion, though. It's not cajun's fault if no one else is willing to reply to that person's post, and if someone does, then cajun has shut down nothing.

Texhnolyze is never "done with" anyone.


...Another pie gifs? I only ever go there once in a blue moon for Muv-Luv discussion, so I don't blame you.

Pretty much.
Its not like my simple enthusiasm for a show is somehow blocking anyone else from posting.
Yall are silly.
Occasionally I can discuss a show at length if I am familiar enough with it but my attention span is not very great and Im not an eloquent speaker.
Generally I would prefer to leave such discussion amongst more descriptive people.
Im a simple guy and I enjoy soaking in the cute and fun parts of anime.
Thats how I am.
If its not what certain members like well I cant please everybody.
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
Your Texhnolyze impressions are spot on Narag.

I'm reliving it through you!
 
Toriko 76

The new Ending (Nana Mizuki - Lovely Fruit) is really good and catchy the way she says Itadakimasu - Lovely Fwuit! is fun (unfortunately Funi/Hulu doesnt havent it :(). but I love the last few moments.

Good episode overall for all three, wish they animated the big attack differently as its not as powerful looking and sounding as his other moves.
 

cajunator

Banned
I dunno, seems like a trick question actually.

Anyways, none of the girls in Sakurasou No Pet Na Kanojo are tsunderes, seriously, the male MC's the only one in the show that fits the bill.

I dont even think anyone from Tonari no Kaibutsu kun is a tsundere either.
It feels strange not to have one.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Camera limitations. This is from an article about 4K/6K transfers and not 4K consumer displays, but it's pretty relevant:
Huh, go figure. Presumably they'll be able to solve that problem with new movies going forward though? Still, the jump to 2k or 3k should still look pretty significant. Well, at least I assume so anyway.
 

jbug617

Banned
I dunno, seems like a trick question actually.

Anyways, none of the girls in Sakurasou No Pet Na Kanojo are tsunderes, seriously, the male MC's the only one in the show that fits the bill.

The classroom friend is a little. I agree that the MC is more but the friend has a little in her.
 

mAcOdIn

Member
The classroom friend is a little. I agree that the MC is more but the friend has a little in her.
She has a little what in her? I'll tell you what she doesn't have in her. Tsun. Nor the MC. Can you be a tsundere without the tsun?

She's been agitated around him, sure, but she's never once been mean to him.
 

Narag

Member
Texhnolyze 21

fuuuuuuuuuck
shinji :( Seeing the fate of Onishi's secretary makes me want to hang myself too.

oh my fucking god
ending the ep with onishi getting shot up is the worst fucking thing ever.
 

Syrinx

Member
YuruYuri 3

SLEEPOVER YO! (Well, just Kyoko. She insisted)

So,
Yui is living on her own. As a middle school kid. I'm not exactly sure how emancipation laws work in Japan, but I'm... quite sure this isn't very legal. Or at least she has to follow several conditions. Whatevs. She seems to have a good enough head on her shoulders to manage.

So all the girls end up hanging out at Yui's apartment because Kyoko needs to do homework at her house. I'm not sure why. So, Yui invites the others because she's a stand up girl. They go shopping at the grocery store, and then they help make dinner. Except Kyoko. They all like it. Then Kyoko eats rum raisin, which I assume doesn't have actual rum in it...does it?

Remember when I said that I thought Kyoko might be insane? Yeah, I'm fairly confident about that now. Being a lesbian is cool and all (in fact, it's actually quite awesome), but then there's moments like these:

"I wish I could eat you, Chinatsu!"

"Come bathe with me, Chinatsu!"

And of course, her fantasy about lesbian sex with Yui. When they were, like, 8.

At least the scene where Kyoko and Yui share a bed wasn't that creepy beyond Kyoko telling Yui that the sheets smell like her.

I think, despite my uneasiness with, um, certain aspects of the show, I'm actually kinda enjoying it. I kinda wish the Amusement Club would actually, you know, do something, but I guess just watching these four do their thing is good enough for now.
 

trejo

Member
Space Bros 29

It's not that I dislike Hibito or anything but I really hope this launch arc is over and done with sooner rather than later because I want the show to focus back on Mutta. Right now he seems more like a commentator than a protagonist.

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This week's engrishwatch
 

Geneijin

Member
:lol I don't see how that shuts down discussion, though. It's not cajun's fault if no one else is willing to reply to that person's post, and if someone does, then cajun has shut down nothing.
cajunator has shown little interest in discussing things at length. And when he does attempt to participate in a discussion, it fails to go anywhere because he often does not address any of the contentious point(s) in question and talks past the person by voicing his opinion in such plain terms that they have little meaning or relevance. What's even worse is he'll do this as a response to someone's complaints and start a discussion that will ultimately go nowhere because of that very behavior. What can also occur is how he'll downplay your criticisms while ignoring them by trying to reach a compromise like to agree to disagree. What discussion is there to be had exactly?

I think you guys are being a little harsh towards Cajunator. Conversation on this thread doesn't only occur between two people, and if someone responds to someone else, that doesn't exclude anyone else from starting a discussion either. If a discussion really goes that way, taking Cajunator out of the picture would mean that the post would just get ignored. If someone wants to discuss those few key issues, they will. I don't see how Cajunator shuts down discussion.
And you think it's better with how cajunator does it? cajunator isn't very opinionated to a fault. That's fine. But why respond if you're not going to address anything they're asking about?

Pretty much.
Its not like my simple enthusiasm for a show is somehow blocking anyone else from posting.
Yall are silly.
Occasionally I can discuss a show at length if I am familiar enough with it but my attention span is not very great and Im not an eloquent speaker.
Generally I would prefer to leave such discussion amongst more descriptive people.
Im a simple guy and I enjoy soaking in the cute and fun parts of anime.
Thats how I am.
If its not what certain members like well I cant please everybody.
Your enthusiasm for a show stifles discussion when you devalue a poster's opinion because you think it's a sufficient answer to merely state you like the work as an explanation against the complaints.
 
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