Fallout 3 and New Vegas mod discussion

Yup, general Fallout 3 folder. Don't uninstall anything yet, there's no reason why it shouldn't work on the Steam folder.

Disregard that video, it's pretty old and needlessly complicated.

Installing mods is very easy and shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.

Simple steps:
1. Download the mod (preferably as a zip/rar or a FOMOD)
2. Fire up FOMM and go to the package manager
3. In the package manager, click on add new (as FOMOD) and select the zip/rar/FOMOD. It should add it up to your list in the package manager.
4. Select the added mod and activate it.
5. Close the package manager and you should see the mod in the load order list just below the Fallout3.esm, etc. It should be ticked.
6. Use BOSS to sort your load order (click on load order, and it should be last on the dropdown list). It's not perfect, but 90% of the times it works.

I just got a PC and am starting my first trip into modding both FO3 and NV. Should the above work for any mod that's out there? I've read a few mods instructions and it didn't make it sound this simple and I'm a poor console plebeian with no experience in this. Thanks so much in advance.
 
I'm glad the thread is back on the first page again and I have a terrible problem with NV. Anybody knows if there is a fix for the fast travel crash. Is just impossible to play now. I need to pay attention when I use savegame/quicksave and fast travel otherwise it crashes and with luck or not sometimes I end up to reset my PC and this ca be happend in minutes after minutes. I don't know, after a version got released, from then such problem occurs.
 
I just got a PC and am starting my first trip into modding both FO3 and NV. Should the above work for any mod that's out there? I've read a few mods instructions and it didn't make it sound this simple and I'm a poor console plebeian with no experience in this. Thanks so much in advance.
Those instructions apply for most cases (I'd say 90% of the mods are installed that way), but not all. You should always try to do a quick search for the readme and see if there are any special instructions. Usually they have a manual installation section, if it says there that you should grab all the files and extract them in the data folder, then the instructions I posted above will most likely work. If for some reason something doesn't go as expected, installing mods with FOMM or NMM makes it really easy to uninstall them and avoid screwups, so no big worries there.
 
I really need to edit some settings in FWE and MM.


I really enjoy some of the difficulty, but a lot of it is fucking ridiculous. Getting to Rivet City is impossible because the Jefferson Memorial and that plate thing have over 10 mutants each, and ammo is so damn rare.

Heres to hoping I can find a happy medium. I don't want it too easy, but this is just too difficult lol. The packs of like 15 raiders are hard too.
 
zkylon, you are awesome. I did exactly what you said and it worked. I now feel equipped to look at the console peasants and talk snarkily about resolutions.

Few questions for the smart people:

1. For FO3, should I get the disable windows live mod? I never use it, just didn't know if it was needed.

2. I'm planning on getting the project butification mod, but are there any other mods for the characters that make them look better for both FO3 and NV? I see a few of the "Type 3" mods on there, but all I can tell is they make the character look different naked. Is there something that makes everybody look better clothed?

3. Any additions or subtractions from the OP list that are really good? I've beaten FO3 and New Vegas before on my PS3 (pro tip, don't buy fallout for your PS3), so I'm open to any suggestions.
 
I really need to edit some settings in FWE and MM.


I really enjoy some of the difficulty, but a lot of it is fucking ridiculous. Getting to Rivet City is impossible because the Jefferson Memorial and that plate thing have over 10 mutants each, and ammo is so damn rare.

Heres to hoping I can find a happy medium. I don't want it too easy, but this is just too difficult lol. The packs of like 15 raiders are hard too.
Yeah, both FWE and PN can get simply un-fun since pretty much everything kills you in one hit. I usually play in normal with those installed and I'm pretty ok, but there should be some tweaking capabilities to FWE, if I recall correctly. I'm sure things like fast travel had an in-game toggle...

zkylon, you are awesome. I did exactly what you said and it worked. I now feel equipped to look at the console peasants and talk snarkily about resolutions.

Few questions for the smart people:

1. For FO3, should I get the disable windows live mod? I never use it, just didn't know if it was needed.

2. I'm planning on getting the project butification mod, but are there any other mods for the characters that make them look better for both FO3 and NV? I see a few of the "Type 3" mods on there, but all I can tell is they make the character look different naked. Is there something that makes everybody look better clothed?

3. Any additions or subtractions from the OP list that are really good? I've beaten FO3 and New Vegas before on my PS3 (pro tip, don't buy fallout for your PS3), so I'm open to any suggestions.
Always happy to help a fellow nobleman stand on the heads of the lowly scum :)

Let's see, then:

1. I didn't know this existed but anything that kills GFWL is good in my book. It looks legit enough, but since I never tried it, I don't know if this can get you locked out of the game or something awful like that. My suggestion would be to avoid this unless you're pretty annoyed at GFWL and are willing to take the risk. My bet is that it'll work OK since 54,491 people downloaded it, but I'm just freeing myself of responsibility here :D

2. Project Beauty/New Vegas Redesigned is the best you can do as far as faces are concerned. I almost never like texture mods, even though there are a couple good ones for the Fallout games, so I can't recommend you any texture mods, but this mod right here really improves the shitty default (human) character animations, so at least you can have that. Here's the link: http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/7670. I would also recommend Tailor Maid, if you like mixing and matching pieces of armor together, but it seems to be pulled off the nexus. If you can find it somewhere else, it can be a pretty fun mod.

3. Well, jim-jam pretty much covered all the must-haves, but I'd add the Weapon Retexture Project for New Vegas and the New Vegas Restoration and Freeside Restoration mods and you'd be pretty much set as far as I'm concerned. The NPC Project mods are also pretty good to liven up the Mojave and a gaffer was making a few mods out of cut content that I'm dying to try out on my next playthrough. I also always use a mod that rebalances Boone to be a little less OP, but I can't remember the name.

Links:
New Vegas Uncut: http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45799
New Vegas Restoration: http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/35100
NPC Project (this is just one of them, but you can find links to the other mods): http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/42449
Weapon Retexture Project: http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/38285

I gotta make my own selection one of these days and post it in a pretty format with them screenshots and whatnot, but who has the time, really?

edit: damn I wrote a lot again. Seriously I should channel all this answering energy into one big megapost :)
 
Hi guys,

I'm starting NV and already installed some mods like the nevada mod and the texture mod. Already makes the game way more fun, it's amazing how huge the difference is just beaucse of the sprint function. The vanilla NV probably isn't a game worth playing...

So does anyone know if the rebalancing function of the nevada mod is worh it? Should I activate it? So far I find the game rather hard however the fighting system is kinda dull - move backwards and shoot. Is there a mod which fixes this?

Also the game is almost a bit too colorful now...and at night or when I'm hurt I can't see shit. Any fixes to that?

I also installed the weather mod. It works but is it supposed to change the weather automatically? Because it doesn't.
 
Hi guys,

I'm starting NV and already installed some mods like the nevada mod and the texture mod. Already makes the game way more fun, it's amazing how huge the difference is just beaucse of the sprint function. The vanilla NV probably isn't a game worth playing...

So does anyone know if the rebalancing function of the nevada mod is worh it? Should I activate it? So far I find the game rather hard however the fighting system is kinda dull - move backwards and shoot. Is there a mod which fixes this?

Also the game is almost a bit too colorful now...and at night or when I'm hurt I can't see shit. Any fixes to that?

I also installed the weather mod. It works but is it supposed to change the weather automatically? Because it doesn't.
Yes, the PN Rebalance module is totally worth it. It actually fixes the typical Bethesda backpedaling thing, because it makes backpedaling speed slower than your enemy's chasing speed.

Which weather mod are you using? Nevada Skies? URWLfied or not? If you think the game is too colorful, you're probably using URWLfied. Try the regular version, it's a lot better IMO.
 
Yes, the PN Rebalance module is totally worth it. It actually fixes the typical Bethesda backpedaling thing, because it makes backpedaling speed slower than your enemy's chasing speed.

Which weather mod are you using? Nevada Skies? URWLfied or not? If you think the game is too colorful, you're probably using URWLfied. Try the regular version, it's a lot better IMO.

OK I'll try the regular version thanks.

Does the regulation make the game much harder? I already do think it's hard and enemies rushing you totally mindless...I don't know why they didn' stay true to the original fallout battle formula. :(

Also what about the weather, doesn't it change automatically?
 
So has there been any big mods to come out after AWOP? I heard about Angel Park, but I'm a bit wary about downloading it because the monster pack mod comes with it (some of the new monster designs creep me the fuck out).

I'd like to really try some mods that add new areas and weapons.
 
OK I'll try the regular version thanks.

Does the regulation make the game much harder? I already do think it's hard and enemies rushing you totally mindless...I don't know why they didn' stay true to the original fallout battle formula. :(

Also what about the weather, doesn't it change automatically?
It's not that much harder, but it's does make the game somewhat more challenging. I'd suggest playing the game on Normal and with the PN Rebalance module. It'll make useful loot like stimpaks, chems and ammo rarer, so scavenging and conserving ammo will be a little more interesting.

I'm not sure what you mean about the weather changing automatically. Nevada Skies adds sandstorms and rain (I think snow too, but can't remember), but they show up only occasionally. Also, all mods that play with the light, hue and toen of the game are called weather mods, so some of them won't actually change the weather (I think Fellout doesn't).

So has there been any big mods to come out after AWOP? I heard about Angel Park, but I'm a bit wary about downloading it because the monster pack mod comes with it (some of the new monster designs creep me the fuck out).

I'd like to really try some mods that add new areas and weapons.
I thought Dog City Denver was pretty decent as far as new areas are concerned: http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/41751. No new monsters or items, but it's a new experience, based on content gotten from the Van Buren leaked design docs. The guy is working on a second mod in the same fashion for Boulder City Dome like it'll be amazing.
 
Thanks a lot zyklon. Actually I think I don't want the game to be more challenging, well, I don't want to search around a lot. I don't know, maybe it's just the engine, but even after all those mods, the game kinda feels "empty" or "without soul". It's hard to describe. I had the same problem with all of those games like FO3 or Oblivion etc. - it's just me.

Any other mod I need to try besides the skies and PNV and HD Textures? Oh, I'm also using the weapon textures mod.
 
Thanks a lot zyklon. Actually I think I don't want the game to be more challenging, well, I don't want to search around a lot. I don't know, maybe it's just the engine, but even after all those mods, the game kinda feels "empty" or "without soul". It's hard to describe. I had the same problem with all of those games like FO3 or Oblivion etc. - it's just me.

Any other mod I need to try besides the skies and PNV and HD Textures? Oh, I'm also using the weapon textures mod.
Any GUI mod if you haven't already should be your priority number one. Other than that, the OP is a pretty good list and if you want something more, just backtrack a bit through the thread and check out my previous posts.

By the way, it's zkylon, not zyklon :)
 
Any GUI mod if you haven't already should be your priority number one. Other than that, the OP is a pretty good list and if you want something more, just backtrack a bit through the thread and check out my previous posts.

By the way, it's zkylon, not zyklon :)

lol, sorry! That really is a different thing...less...nasty. ;D No I'm not using a GUI mod yet...need to check on that. THanks.
 
Hey, I installed some more mods like you suggested (advanced shaders, hud mods, gui mod the ones from page 1) and now my game isn't loading anymore. It just shows the loading screen and nothing happens anymore. I need to force close it then. Any idea?

Well, now it isnt working at allynmore even if I delete all the other UI mods and it tells me that "content is missing" before I try to load a game and it goes into an endless loop. It's a bit annoying tbh.
 
Hey, I installed some more mods like you suggested (advanced shaders, hud mods, gui mod the ones from page 1) and now my game isn't loading anymore. It just shows the loading screen and nothing happens anymore. I need to force close it then. Any idea?

Well, now it isnt working at allynmore even if I delete all the other UI mods and it tells me that "content is missing" before I try to load a game and it goes into an endless loop. It's a bit annoying tbh.
Do the usual:
1) check if you have the latest NVSE version
2) try your crashing save with no mods. If this works do 3)
3) try your crashing save with one mod activated at a time to find the faulty mod.

If you're using a mod manager, also try launching the game without it. A HUD mod won't make your savegame crash, so enhanced shaders or NVSE-dependant mods are my prime suspects.
 
Well, I got it working again somehow, just don't ask me how. ;D I tried so many things and it seems to work now. Even ahud is working though on the screens it looks like they actually had a smaller hud but I don't find a way to resize it, just to rearrange it. Also Project Nevada adds a "dynamite" icon which you can't move using ahud, so the whole thing is pretty much useless... :(
 
Well, I got it working again somehow, just don't ask me how. ;D I tried so many things and it seems to work now. Even ahud is working though on the screens it looks like they actually had a smaller hud but I don't find a way to resize it, just to rearrange it. Also Project Nevada adds a "dynamite" icon which you can't move using ahud, so the whole thing is pretty much useless... :(

Maybe try the Unified HUD project. http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/38961

and/or The Mod Configuration Menu. http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/42507

Though both those won't likely solve the loading issues.
 
uHUD will probably work well with the dynamite icon from PN.

Thrakier, you gotta single out the mod that's giving you problems. It's a boring process -I should know- but it's your best bet.
 
It's working again, once again, dont ask me how. Inbetween I had the fast traveling bug. I installed the save mod and disabled all ingame saving, that helped. Man what a mess, I invested more time in configuring than playing. ;)

That uHUD link isnt working. Is it unified hud? I installed that but I thought all what it does is merging several hud mods into one.
 
It's working again, once again, dont ask me how. Inbetween I had the fast traveling bug. I installed the save mod and disabled all ingame saving, that helped. Man what a mess, I invested more time in configuring than playing. ;)

That uHUD link isnt working. Is it unified hud? I installed that but I thought all what it does is merging several hud mods into one.

As I understand it, when you install mods that make changes to the hud they tend to overwrite and likely break other hud changes that other mods might have made. Unified hud detects what changes have been made and fixes it so that they all play nice together.

Edit: the link I posted works. Just tried it.
 
It doesn'tw rok for me. However I have it installed anyway and it works, but none of the hud mods I'm using makes the hud scalable in size it seems.
 
And we are back to a non working version. Between yesterday and today I changed NOTHING and once again it isn't loading. And this point it seems like a random effect? I'M about to give up.
 
So it's random. It's sometimes not loading my latest save but the one right before it (usually 3 minutes). Nothing significantly changed inbetween. Any ideas on that?
 
So it's random. It's sometimes not loading my latest save but the one right before it (usually 3 minutes). Nothing significantly changed inbetween. Any ideas on that?
Nope. Like I said before, if you haven't already, try to find out which mod is breaking your game by deactivating them all, then activating them one a time, testing them, etc. The error probably isn't a random error (as in, it's unexplaineable or unfixable), but a mod conflicting or malfunctioning randomly.
 
Nope. Like I said before, if you haven't already, try to find out which mod is breaking your game by deactivating them all, then activating them one a time, testing them, etc. The error probably isn't a random error (as in, it's unexplaineable or unfixable), but a mod conflicting or malfunctioning randomly.

I now deactivated all HUD mods and so far it seems to be working. We'll see. Also this legion guys are so annyoing, unbelievable.
 
Well, I now installed some more mods like FOOK and Project Real (Faces mod) and now most of the NPCs are...in underwear. It's kinda funny thought but I'd like to fix it anyway...ideas? Reinstall Project Vegas?
 
Starting a new game of Fallout 3, got some mods installed:

Fallout 3 Wanderer's Edition
Project Beauty
Mart's Mutant Mod

Basically just trying to get all of that running. Been fine until I got out of Vault 101, and always crashed when I wander. Anyone got the same problem?
 
What is everyone's thoughts about playing Fallout New Vegas the first time with Project Nevada? I personally would not hesitate to recommend FWE the first time playing through Fallout 3 because Fallout 3 vanilla is so boring and easy. Is this also true of FAllout New Vegas vanilla?
 
What is everyone's thoughts about playing Fallout New Vegas the first time with Project Nevada? I personally would not hesitate to recommend FWE the first time playing through Fallout 3 because Fallout 3 vanilla is so boring and easy. Is this also true of FAllout New Vegas vanilla?
Yeah, pretty much. It's less mandatory than FWE, but not by such a long stretch.
 
Wow, they still have not fixed the "file does not exist" bug in Nexus Mod Manager. Really frustrating for such a promising piece of software.
 
Wow, they still have not fixed the "file does not exist" bug in Nexus Mod Manager. Really frustrating for such a promising piece of software.

I have to be completely honest, NMM is great for Skyrim (at least for me) but has always been pretty terrible when it comes to FO. Since a big chunk of mods have designed themselves to be installed with FOMM, you lose a bit of installation assistance. Also, a few of the FO mods require a bit of manual tinkering that the Skyrim mods don't require.

Different strokes I suppose, but I'd use FOMM for FO and NMM for the other applications it supports.

vareon, have you downloaded the compatibility patches? There should be one that you can install that makes FWE, MMM, and Project Beauty all play nice.
 
I have to be completely honest, NMM is great for Skyrim (at least for me) but has always been pretty terrible when it comes to FO. Since a big chunk of mods have designed themselves to be installed with FOMM, you lose a bit of installation assistance. Also, a few of the FO mods require a bit of manual tinkering that the Skyrim mods don't require.

Different strokes I suppose, but I'd use FOMM for FO and NMM for the other applications it supports.

vareon, have you downloaded the compatibility patches? There should be one that you can install that makes FWE, MMM, and Project Beauty all play nice.

Hmm, I installed FOMM following your advice. But every time I add a new FOMOD it crashes. When I start it up again the new mod is in the package manager and I can activate it then, but crashing after every mod addition doesn't seem normal. I'm seeing other people report the same experience in the comments on the mod as well.
 
I have to be completely honest, NMM is great for Skyrim (at least for me) but has always been pretty terrible when it comes to FO. Since a big chunk of mods have designed themselves to be installed with FOMM, you lose a bit of installation assistance. Also, a few of the FO mods require a bit of manual tinkering that the Skyrim mods don't require.

Different strokes I suppose, but I'd use FOMM for FO and NMM for the other applications it supports.

vareon, have you downloaded the compatibility patches? There should be one that you can install that makes FWE, MMM, and Project Beauty all play nice.

Yep, installed it and followed the load order. After a few enabling/disabling, I got my game working again. There's two problems now, though:

Project Beauty missed some meshes. I downloaded and used the archiveinvalidation invalidated but I'm not sure the correct setting.

The game crashed if I buy any Portable things from FWE.

Still trying, though!
 
coopolon, and there's the rub with FOMM. It hasn't been supported in a long while, so it's a bit out of date. Mine seems to work just fine. I wish I could give you more advice, but for Fallout most modders have the assumption that you're using FOMM. Have you tried deleting and reinstalling the program? Did you verify the mods you're trying to activate can be installed with FOMM?

vareon, FOMM has archive invalidation built in. Under tools, just click it on, back off, then on again. That works for me at times.
 
When playing FWE with MMM, what type of leveling/int bonus/difficulty is recommended for it to be tough but not too hard?
 
I know this is a double post, but there are a few other mods I started using that have made the game look much better.

Project Reality for Fallout 3 - In my opinion, superior to the Fellout. The lighting looks much better and the weather effects really add a lot to the game. Not compatible with Fellout, as they adjust the same thing.

Realistic Interior Lighting - Adjusts the lighting inside buildings to look like it should.

Megaton Lighting Overhaul - Adjust the lights inside and outside megaton to look like the should. The Christmas light bulbs and random spot lights look great.

Fallout Street Lights - You'll want to adjust your settings according to the page. Adds and adjust lots of lighting where it should be for night time all over the wasteland. When it hits almost pitch black and you can see Rivet City lit up, you can really tell how much work went into the mod.

Dynavision - Basically, enhances the depth of field effect. Really makes the first person shooting, when used with RH Ironsights, much better looking.

Cinematch - Wanna apply various film grains to your game? Use this. Good for screenshots.

Imaginator - Tool to adjust any of the color settings within game. Combined with Project Reality, you can basically tune the colors of the world to look however you want them

Director's Chair - Handy tool to combine the above the mods into an easy to use menu accessible from F7.

iHUD - Makes the HUD fade away when you're not using it. After all the work I did to adjust the world, having the HUD gone helps to take in all the changes.
 
was a long time since I tried MMM but I always find that the MMM-mod breaks the game. Like it adds a lot of stuff that the game was not designed for and breaks the gameplay design
 
These mods make me want to buy NV even more.

I played it a lot on PS3 but a Steam version with all the DLC would be brilliant. Need dat sale.
 
I want to continue my save from where I left off but I want to do a clean install with newer/better versions of the mods. I saved in NV, is that ok?
 
I want to continue my save from where I left off but I want to do a clean install with newer/better versions of the mods. I saved in NV, is that ok?

you should be fine, the game will warn you that things might be missing when you load the save but you shouldn't have any problems. my saves have been through several levels of hell and they still work.
 
I want to continue my save from where I left off but I want to do a clean install with newer/better versions of the mods. I saved in NV, is that ok?
Usually you'll be fine unless you're in a mod area, though you should prepare for some jankiness.
 
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