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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't
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water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i also like how things are added to old locations or you go back to an earlier area for something else (for example in Primm
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in the Vicki and Vance you run into AWOL NCR soldiers looking for a new home after you do the sheriff stuff
Here you go.stupei said:
Ogrekiller
Member
The game is awesome; however SPECIAL could be better done. Charisma is still useless, Agility should give +1% movement speed every level, Perception should improve accuracy like the devs said it would.
Also, we need a rollerskates mod that increases movement speed and portable camping sites/sleeping bags. For heaven's sake, rollerskates are already in the game- you just can't do anything with them.
Also, we need a rollerskates mod that increases movement speed and portable camping sites/sleeping bags. For heaven's sake, rollerskates are already in the game- you just can't do anything with them.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Just finished! Lvl 28 at the end:
I'm going to do an evil, Legion associated play-through next. The char's focus will be on explosives, melee and barter.
- Supported NCR after having assassinated Caesar earlier in the game. I traveled to his camp with Boone... and forgot that he might instigate stuff.
- Tried to talk the Khans out of their alliance with Caesar, but Papa Khan refused to listen. After taking him, and his inner cadre out, I was shocked to learn that he wrote about his own anxiety of siding with Caesar in his journal.
- Slaughtered the BoS. I felt bad about this one, even though its clear that the Western BoS really is a lot different than the Capitol chapter. I walked in, reprogrammed their turrets, and blew up the bunker.
- I sided with The Kings in Freeside, and they built a working relationship with the NCR.
- I took out Mr House, and the Omertas, but let Benny live.
- Boone re-enlisted, and spends his leaves hunting down CL stragglers.
- Rex had Violetta's brain, and ended up becoming a savage monster.
I played as a *good* character, maxed guns, and highish speech, repair, lockpick and medicine.
- Tried to talk the Khans out of their alliance with Caesar, but Papa Khan refused to listen. After taking him, and his inner cadre out, I was shocked to learn that he wrote about his own anxiety of siding with Caesar in his journal.
- Slaughtered the BoS. I felt bad about this one, even though its clear that the Western BoS really is a lot different than the Capitol chapter. I walked in, reprogrammed their turrets, and blew up the bunker.
- I sided with The Kings in Freeside, and they built a working relationship with the NCR.
- I took out Mr House, and the Omertas, but let Benny live.
- Boone re-enlisted, and spends his leaves hunting down CL stragglers.
- Rex had Violetta's brain, and ended up becoming a savage monster.
I played as a *good* character, maxed guns, and highish speech, repair, lockpick and medicine.
I'm going to do an evil, Legion associated play-through next. The char's focus will be on explosives, melee and barter.
GhostRidah
Member
Does anyone know where I can get the key for the doors up on black mountain?
Yeah that was pretty cool, but it was also the only one I've found.water_wendi said:
Agility does increase movement speed (not sure by what %), and perception should increase VATS accuracy at least? Also, if you rely on your companions to do most of the damage, the charisma verve bonus is a nice addition. It's pretty useless for a lone wolf build, sure, but that makes sense :lolOgrekiller said:
Confidence Man
Member
Just finished and realized I got gypped out of tons of Steam achievements. Maybe from playing offline thanks to that cloud save mess? Bleh.
Charisma is by no means useless. Not only does maxing out charisma start you off with a solid boost to Speech (especially if you tag it as well), but as mentioned your companions are all 50% stronger. Most of the companions are pretty strong as it is, so this really makes them much more powerful.
There are also certain dialog options which only appear if your charisma is above average (I think 7 and up), generally related to requiring you to have good looks. They're not very common but they exist, and some of these options may also require either the appropriate perk/gender (Lady Killer/Black Widow/Confirmed Bachelor/Cherchez La Femme) or a high enough Speech.
So the skill/perk check you see in the dialog option might make you think that it is the sole reason that it appears, but in fact some of these options are not available if your charisma is not high enough. Unlike other stat checks where you can attempt even if you don't meet the requirement, these options simply do not appear if your charisma is too low.
So for a role playing player, having a high charisma for a character meant to be charming and good looking is definitely not useless.
There are also certain dialog options which only appear if your charisma is above average (I think 7 and up), generally related to requiring you to have good looks. They're not very common but they exist, and some of these options may also require either the appropriate perk/gender (Lady Killer/Black Widow/Confirmed Bachelor/Cherchez La Femme) or a high enough Speech.
So the skill/perk check you see in the dialog option might make you think that it is the sole reason that it appears, but in fact some of these options are not available if your charisma is not high enough. Unlike other stat checks where you can attempt even if you don't meet the requirement, these options simply do not appear if your charisma is too low.
So for a role playing player, having a high charisma for a character meant to be charming and good looking is definitely not useless.
Dresden said:
I'd say not even close. You're in nondescript, architecturally bland desert town shooting Geckos... I'd say the Vault+Megaton wins by a country mile regardless of what you think about the writing.
water_wendi said:
Obviously on replays the shorter beginning section is the better one. The first time through is another story.
Sme people really don't pay attention or are just jumping on the charisma-hate train.duckroll said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, Duckroll but, each point added to a special trait, will subsequently boost the skills associated with that trait by a couple of points, right? So, one point to charisma increases barter and speech by 2 points per level of charisma. That means that a Maxed out charisma will increases barter and speech by at least 20 points. Thats at least 40 skill points freed up to increases those skills further or even increase something else.
Right it wrong?
NoRéN said:
Well, that is correct though you can't have a 0 in CHA so the difference between 1 and 10 CHA is 36 skill points total (18 Barter / 18 Speech). Technically the stats worth the most raw skill points are PER (Energy, Explosives, Lockpick) and INT (Medicine, Science, Repair), while LCK increases all skills by .5 (which rounds up if necessary).
BanShunsaku
Member
So after about 40 hours I decided to start working on the "main" questline...
Holy shit, this game forces you to make some tough decisions. I've never felt so torn about decisions in a game than I am with this. I'm sitting at work trying to work out how I'm going to approach stuff when I get home tonight :lol
Holy shit, this game forces you to make some tough decisions. I've never felt so torn about decisions in a game than I am with this. I'm sitting at work trying to work out how I'm going to approach stuff when I get home tonight :lol
Ogrekiller said:
What I never understood is why they don't allow you to ride motorcycles, since judging by the ones parked outside the saloon at the start and around the world, everyone else does.
You should be able to buy a motorcycle at some point and drive it around. F2 (and maybe F1? Don't remember) let you buy a car to drive around and store stuff in.
I wonder if the engine couldn't handle it or something. Would be awesome to have an interstate '76 style dirty post-war cockpit view while driving around the wasteland running over radscorpions.
ChoklitReign
Member
My obsession with this game is un-fucking-healthy. I'm buying a new computer in a month so I can play this on the PC (somehow Obsidian doubled the requirements). I've been watching streams for the past day and I want it now. To top it off, I can't study for my hardest college classes. I literally want to die now.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
On this engine driving would be the worst thing ever.
AndyMoogle
Member
I can already imagine how awesome the car physics and hit detection would be while driving.Foliorum Viridum said:
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Its not about length (i think both are about equal length) its about options. In NV you can have different outcomes or not even participate (say if you wanted to just head for the Strip). Fallout 3s tutorial area is the same all the time with two or three slight changes (stick up for Amata? how do you act towards Butch at the party? do you kill the Overseer?).Ledsen said:
Ogrekiller
Member
The problem with charisma is that your base charisma really doesn't matter too much in the long run. Barter and speech each have +10 items (naughty nightwear for speech, trader cap+5 and wasteland merchants outfit/bennys suit +5 for barter) and have a trait to help them out, and charisma is the most easily boosted BY FAR out of ALL the stats. (party time mentats give a whopping +5 and are ridiculously easy to make, mentats, whiskey- especially with whiskey rose, moonshine AND they all stack) The damage boost given by nerve is alright but my main purpose for companions are mules and cannon fodder, which is where nerve is really handy, but if you're not on hardcore then thats a non issue- companions can't die. So besides companion health for me that leaves perks, which are decent, but none of them particularly stand out to me, which is just my playstyle.
Wait til you combine that with Finesse, better crits, Lily's perk, built to destroy. Ninja if you're going melee/unarmed. OMG indeed.njean777 said:
Blue Ninja
Member
I have to force myself to get any studying done. Ultimately, all I wanna do is go back and scour the Wasteland.ChoklitReign said:
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
It matters in an rpg where choice and consequences are supposed to be present. Imo, at least.Ledsen said:
next game I was thinking needs:
vehicles.
climbing skill - I got sick of the walls surrounding areas you can't walk around. Wasteland had climb as skillset.
pickpocket skill... (where did this go? My 100 stealth character is as good at pickpocketing as my 40 stealh character. TERRIBLE).
vehicles.
climbing skill - I got sick of the walls surrounding areas you can't walk around. Wasteland had climb as skillset.
pickpocket skill... (where did this go? My 100 stealth character is as good at pickpocketing as my 40 stealh character. TERRIBLE).
njean777
Member
Dresden said:
that how i build my characters at least, it helps a lot in the early game when you do not have a big arsenal. I just use my companions and take away strength no need for it when you have somebody that will carry everything for you and you do not use melee weapons.
Do I need to actually supply my companions with ammunition for non-default weapons? Boone is fairly useful even with his default, but I'd like to give him something better, but it seems that unlike Fallout 3 when you reverse pickpocketed weapons and one shot of whatever ammo, they actually use it like normal. Would hate to be spending caps on wasted shots.
Ledsen said:
I completely disagree with this. Even if you play the game just once, it is silly to presume that every single player will do things a particular way the first time they play. Having many multiple options for the player to roleplay as he/she sees fit benefits the game from the very start, not just on replays. If you start out creating a specific character with an intention to play the game from a certain type of personality/specialization, New Vegas gives you the ability to take advantage of that right from the start. Your actions right from the beginning start to define your character and the consequences of your early actions slowly begin to affect what other options you have as you progress through the game. You open new doors and close existing ones based on how you react to the world and how the world reacts to you.
Panipal2009
Banned
Is there a way to cripple these fucking cunt's legs, like quickly, so I stand a chance of keeping some fucking distance, and not get fucking mauled to death while I'm trying to hurt them?
Seriously pissed off because I
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In fact is it possible to build a poison dart gun like in FO3?
Seriously pissed off because I
went through the fucking train tunnel by Nellis AFB so I wouldn't get fucking killed by missiles all the fucking time, and then these bastards are waiting for me at the other fucking end
In fact is it possible to build a poison dart gun like in FO3?
bunbun777
Member
It never makes sense to start with 10 unless you are straight role playing and that's the way it has to be for your character. Imo the best stats are INT for the future points, LCK for the overall point increase and crits, END (now) due to implant requirements, STR and AGI are about the same but STR wins due to weapon requirements, though if you do not use top level equipment.... PER and CHR are mostly worthless. Especially with ED-e's perk and tagging speech.
Thing is you can gimp your character any way you want (even skill points) and as long as you focus on one specialization you will kick ass. You may not get to do 'as much' as you could have another route. Usually anyone that isn't happy or not finding results with their builds are usually spread out or secretly wanting something else.
Am currently lvl 28 on my 2nd character, Tufistso, who specializes in Unarmed and is leeethal.
Used Intense training 4 times and ended up with these after taking all SPECIAL related implants:
S-6
P-6 (7 with helmet)
E-9
C-5
I-10
A-7
L-8 (9 with NN usually equipped)
Looking back now I would have lowered my CHR 2 more points and given it to STR -- kept PER the same due to PERK requirements, and took 2 more points from CHR and given it to AGI. Tufistso is at 88 speech now, that could still be the same without the CHR boost and kept at 80.
Thing is you can gimp your character any way you want (even skill points) and as long as you focus on one specialization you will kick ass. You may not get to do 'as much' as you could have another route. Usually anyone that isn't happy or not finding results with their builds are usually spread out or secretly wanting something else.
Am currently lvl 28 on my 2nd character, Tufistso, who specializes in Unarmed and is leeethal.
Used Intense training 4 times and ended up with these after taking all SPECIAL related implants:
S-6
P-6 (7 with helmet)
E-9
C-5
I-10
A-7
L-8 (9 with NN usually equipped)
Looking back now I would have lowered my CHR 2 more points and given it to STR -- kept PER the same due to PERK requirements, and took 2 more points from CHR and given it to AGI. Tufistso is at 88 speech now, that could still be the same without the CHR boost and kept at 80.