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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

dwebo

Member
ckohler said:
There are only five or six people you can actually talk to. The rest are just "Boomer" and say exactly the same thing. Yeah, Fallout 3 and Oblivion had nameless characters too but no-where this many. Remember Rivet City in Fallout 3? That place was packed with unique characters. I don't think there were more than two or three randoms. Everyone else was a real character with full dialog trees and quests. New Vegas just doesn't have much of that.
Completely agree with you. It's annoying (and tedious) that the first thing you have to do when you get to a new populated area is to run up to every single npc to see if they've got a unique name, lest you miss the one with the cool side quest. It's a similar problem with the unpopulated areas, except just now you're running up to every item to see if it's a special named doodad.

/slight exaggeration
 

ckohler

Member
dwebo said:
Completely agree with you. It's annoying (and tedious) that the first thing you have to do when you get to a new populated area is to run up to every single npc to see if they've got a unique name, lest you miss the one with the cool side quest. It's a similar problem with the unpopulated areas, except just now you're running up to every item to see if it's a special named doodad.
Exactly! You're forced to wade through all the clones to find a real person. It's a cheat. Oblivion never made me do this. When you saw someone in Oblivion who wasn't a guard, it was an actual character.
 

classicdms

Neo Member
I just spent 6 hours in this goddamn game completed a few quests and now I'm just wandering. Got myself a
Boone
for a companion. Only level 9 and trying to not go to Vegas for as long as possible.

Should I stop worrying about Vegas being the end of the game?
 

Shinjitsu

Banned
classicdms said:
I just spent 6 hours in this goddamn game completed a few quests and now I'm just wandering. Got myself a
Boone
for a companion. Only level 9 and trying to not go to Vegas for as long as possible.

Should I stop worrying about Vegas being the end of the game?

Yes, there's LOADS of quests there and in the surrounding area.
 

Shinjitsu

Banned
disappeared said:
Cripple either of their wings and they're fucked scrambling around on the ground.

This, just like taking out deathclaw legs fucks them over pretty badly too.

I have a feeling everyone is still going for headshots ala Fallout 3.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
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i think i might be able to max out XP for my pacifist :O Just hit 18 and im not even done with the Strip. i guess the 40% bonus to all XP gains really adds up. Also picked up Animal Friend so i can travel Gecko country without worry about sneaking. Next two levels i plan on maximizing my Sneak and then picking up the second level of Animal Friend.

Feels good to play an rpg where the only shooting ive done is with a camera :lol

<3 Obsidian
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
ckohler said:
While I'm still enjoying New Vegas, there are a lot of nagging things that are really starting to bother me. The more I explore, the more I find so few actual characters or interesting places. I realize this is a desert but I was expecting a level of interesting areas and unique characters to at least be on the same level as Fallout 3.

I have a completely opposite experience. FO3 was good as grinding-level up game, but that's it. There were some interesting places outside the main path... but I can count them with the fingers of one hand. Here I'm overwhelmed with how many interesting places I visited and characters I met.
 

Zeke

Member
Shinjitsu said:
This, just like taking out deathclaw legs fucks them over pretty badly too.

I have a feeling everyone is still going for headshots ala Fallout 3.
I've been avoiding them actually I ran into one pretty early on and figured they were similiar to bloatflies and how wrong I was. I've only killed one so far and it was a little one kept running backwards with a shotgun :lol
 

Dresden

Member
water_wendi said:
i think i might be able to max out XP for my pacifist :O Just hit 18 and im not even done with the Strip. i guess the 40% bonus to all XP gains really adds up. Also picked up Animal Friend so i can travel Gecko country without worry about sneaking. Next two levels i plan on maximizing my Sneak and then picking up the second level of Animal Friend.

Feels good to play an rpg where the only shooting ive done is with a camera :lol

<3 Obsidian
Nice. :lol
 
Zeke said:
I've been avoiding them actually I ran into one pretty early on and figured they were similiar to bloatflies and how wrong I was. I've only killed one so far and it was a little one kept running backwards with a shotgun :lol

My strategy is basically don't rush them. Get just close enough so they see me and start attacking. Wait for my companion to attack and get aggro. Then blow them away with my Cowboy Repeater. And hope he's paired up only with a little one.

Works for me. I'm level 12 BTW. Killed my first one at around level 10 or so (that's when I started venturing north of Goodsprings).

But yeah, they're my 2nd most hated enemy in the game, first being Deathclaws. Both of them actually might be equal on my hate list. Not sure which one's harder.
 

Ledsen

Member
Lostconfused said:
Porn more or less.

No it's not, the most downloaded one is a simple nudity mod, the porn one (animated prositution) is further down the list. Unless you consider nudity to be porn.
 
Come to think of it, I actually solo'd a Deathclaw. My companion was lost. So I'd say Cazador's are harder as they'll still whoop my ass companion-less.
 

dwebo

Member
About an hour after I lose ED-E, I lose Arcade too. It's okay though, since I finished exploring every location. Well, almost. I entered Broc Flower Cave, my last one, and the game almost immediately hard locks on me. Ugh, enough is finally enough!

Goddamn. Easily some of the best gaming moments of the year for me, but it's also the buggiest POS I've played in a long, long time. That's what I get for being a cheapskate and renting for PS3 I guess. :lol
 

Lakitu

st5fu
Wallach said:
In the town of Primm, in the old Sheriff's home, there is a Sheriff's Duster and Sheriff's Cowboy Hat next to his bed. They are free to take because he very obviously no longer needs them.

That's the Duster that I took and used, it eventually got worn out and I had to take it off because I needed to use a Radiation Suit. And around that point of the game, I didn't find anyone that could repair items. If I get Jury Rigger perk, can I repair it from beyond the grave?
 

Dresden

Member
Lakitu said:
That's the Duster that I took and used, it eventually got worn out and I had to take it off because I needed to use a Radiation Suit. And around that point of the game, I didn't find anyone that could repair items. If I get Jury Rigger perk, can I repair it from beyond the grave?
I found another duster coat later on (not the Ranger armor), and you could, if you had Jury Rigging, repair it with leather armor and mercenary crap..
 

Lakitu

st5fu
Dresden said:
I found another duster coat later on (not the Ranger armor), and you could, if you had Jury Rigging, repair it with leather armor and mercenary crap..

Thanks, that's great. Can't wait to sport it again.
 

Zeke

Member
SlipperySlope said:
My strategy is basically don't rush them. Get just close enough so they see me and start attacking. Wait for my companion to attack and get aggro. Then blow them away with my Cowboy Repeater. And hope he's paired up only with a little one.

Works for me. I'm level 12 BTW. Killed my first one at around level 10 or so (that's when I started venturing north of Goodsprings).

But yeah, they're my 2nd most hated enemy in the game, first being Deathclaws. Both of them actually might be equal on my hate list. Not sure which one's harder.
Used to love deathclaw hunting in FO3 I'd setup traps and lure them to me. Like mining a small area, taking a pop shot at it then as it starts charging cripple the legs and watch limp thro mines
 

Trick_GSF

Banned
I've gone about the main storyline differently on my second playthrough and
I'm fighting at the dam when all of a sudden I see the Boomers come rolling over in the freaking plane dropping bombs and shit. I did not see that coming. So awesome.

Fuck yeah, Boomers!
 
help ! I'm in novac trying to do 'come fly with me'
I have been told by jason bright to kill all the nightkins, so go down there, kick ass eventually come across a goul who has been hiding, he runs off (where too i don't know as i can't see a door in his room apart from the one i came in) anyway i can't find any more nightkin to kill and i have been down into the jail etc and can't see anywhere else where the nightkin can be, but when i leave the basement the arrow tells me to go back in but there are no nightkin left ?
 

duckroll

Member
Jamesearlcash said:
help ! I'm in novac trying to do 'come fly with me'
I have been told by jason bright to kill all the nightkins, so go down there, kick ass eventually come across a goul who has been hiding, he runs off (where too i don't know as i can't see a door in his room apart from the one i came in) anyway i can't find any more nightkin to kill and i have been down into the jail etc and can't see anywhere else where the nightkin can be, but when i leave the basement the arrow tells me to go back in but there are no nightkin left ?

Did you ever talk to a Nightkin boss? Or kill him?
 
So am I in trouble?

I'm doing an unarmed build with absolutely no charisma. focusing on unarmed, survival, science and lockpick.

I went to Boulder City and
killed off the NCR guys. I'm now "hated" with the NCR. Thought I was doing the Khans a favor, but the two leader guys actually ended up attacking me. I didn't want the Khans on my bad side so I fled.

Proceeded up to 118 or whatever it was.
Didn't like the way the Gun Runner talked to me so I punched him, causing him to explode (love Bloody Mess).
This caused the rest of the merchants and NCR guys around to attack me so I had to punch them all into smithereens.

Finally got to
Vegas
, and about half of the places I can see on my map have me as "Hated." It's fun but I'm wondering how much harder I've made the game on myself now :lol
 
I have to say the faction system is definitely hampering my enjoyment of the game.
I don't like failing quests I never even heard of because I helped someone else.

I also found a couple of nitpicky little plotholes. One has large spoilers for near the end of the game though.

When you first get to the Lucky 38 you can talk to one of the robots and ask about the snowglobe collection. I've looked all over and there is no snowglobe collection until you start selling them to Mr. House.

Caesar tells you about the doors with the Lucky 38 logo on them and how Benny was going to use the platinum chip to open them. The platinum chip doesn't open the doors, it opens the stairs that lead to the doors. Neither one should know about the doors if they haven't actually used the platinum chip there.
 
duckroll said:
Did you ever talk to a Nightkin boss? Or kill him?

Boss ? If i've seen him i've killed him ? Would it say boss by his name, I killed the Jailer one if that's what you mean. There seems nowhere else to explore down there, it's not exactky big either so i'm not sure where one would be hiding.
 

duckroll

Member
Jamesearlcash said:
Boss ? If i've seen him i've killed him ? Would it say boss by his name, I killed the Jailer one if that's what you mean. There seems nowhere else to explore down there, it's not exactky big either so i'm not sure where one would be hiding.

There's a named leader of the Nightkins down there by the name of Davison.
 
Jamesearlcash said:
Boss ? If i've seen him i've killed him ? Would it say boss by his name, I killed the Jailer one if that's what you mean. There seems nowhere else to explore down there, it's not exactky big either so i'm not sure where one would be hiding.
There's another hallway, not far from the place where you found that Ghoul. Check your Local Map if you can't find it, it'll probably still be covered by Fog of War. Once you go through, a Nightkin leader will initiate conversation with you.
 
duckroll said:
There's a named leader of the Nightkins down there by the name of Davison.

Speaking of which, I got a key off his body, anyone know what it's for? I don't remember running into any doors that used it.
 
finalozzo said:
now i'm with boone. Fuck yeah :lol

I fucking love Boone. Dude be killing shit that I don't even see. I'll just be walking along and it will flash to something getting crippled. It's funny as fuck if you give him a melee weapon, too.
 

Arjen

Member
Solstice said:
I fucking love Boone. Dude be killing shit that I don't even see. I'll just be walking along and it will flash to something getting crippled. It's funny as fuck if you give him a melee weapon, too.

Boone + Chainsaw = Pretty bloody awesome mess
 
I still can't decide if I want to side with House or not. I've been doing sidequests and stuff for almost 10 hours, trying to make up my mind, heh.
 

duckroll

Member
I continued my new character today, and I already managed to fail both Run Goodsprings Run AND Ghost Town Gunfight. :lol

I talked to Joe Cobb, agreeing to help kill Ringo, but I didn't want to go through with it. But Ringo said he saw me talking to Cobb and wouldn't trust me to help him. I tried to steal the Stealth Boy from Cobb, but he caught me, so I gunned him down and took all his shit anyway. Now I'm vilified by the Power Gangers, but I can enter the Correctional Facility wearing their faction armor. Unfortunately the guards inside the two other buildings seem to know I'm unwanted, so I can't get very far there. Need to find another way to either improve my reputation with them, or just wipe them out later. We'll see. :lol
 

ElyrionX

Member
Just started the game with a Gun/Energy Weapons/Sneak/Lockpick/Speech/Repair character. Haven't done the exact math but I figure I should be able to max six skills. All remaining points go into Science. SPECIAL are as follows:

S 5
P 5
E 6
C 1
I 9
A 6
L 8

Planning to get implants to boost
Str, Per, Int, Agi, Luc and DT.

Picked the Good-Natured trait as it'll boost three skills I need (Speech, Science, Repair) while gimping two (Guns, Energy Weapons) as well as the Trigger Discipline trait as it sort of fits my playstyle.

Perks I plan to take are:

2 Intense Training (Luck)
4 Educated
6 Shotgun Surgeon (Figured this will be helpful for Radscorpions and other armoured critters)
8 Commando
10 Finesse
12 Sniper
14 Silent Running
16 Better Criticals
18 Weapon Handling
20 Jury Rigging
22 Meltdown
24 Grim Reaper's Sprint
26 Nerves of Steel
28 Action Boy (still debating this)
30 Action Boy (still debating this)

Any comments?

Unlike others here, I don't think reducing the amount of skillpoints you get is necessarily a good thing in this game. In FO3, I maxed out Guns/Energy Weapons/Melee/Unarmed and that afforded me a ton of flexibility in the way I played. I liked that a lot. I started out with Guns and gradually moved to Melee/Unarmed/Sneak as I leveled and it kept the combat fresh. In NV, if I want to do a Melee build, I pretty much have to go Melee the entire game. That kind of sucks since I rarely ever replay an entire game. Also, I don't understand why they had to go make Melee and Unarmed so intertwined that it's practically impossible to take one without the other and not gimp your own build.
 
I think I'm pretty much done until some DLC arrives. I don't think it's possible to complete more quests than this in a single playthrough.
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ElyrionX said:
Any comments?

You don't need that much INT, really. 4-5 is fine w/ Educated. If you are using a guide to grab all the skill books, you'll have more than enough. You're missing a lot by ignoring melee weapons, and you don't need unarmed perks to have a good melee build. Energy weapons and shotguns aren't that great. As for your perks, not taking Bloody Mess, Cowboy, Living Anatomy, Confirmed Bachelor, Hunter, etc. is not a wise choice.. those are all straight up damage boosts.

Here's what I've got for my build.

SPECIAL: 7 STR, 5 PER, 7-8 END, 1 CHR, 4-5 INT, 6 AGI, 9 LCK.
Tag Repair, Sneak, and Lockpicking. Perks: 01 Fast Shot and Built to Destroy, 02 Rapid Reloads, 04 Educated, 06 Bloody Mess, 08 Cowboy, 10 Finesse, 12 Confirmed Bachelor, 14 Hunter, 16 Better Criticals, 18 Purifier, 20 Ninja, 22 Super Slam, 24 Jury Rigging, 26 Nerves of Steel, 28 Living Anatomy, 30 Math Wrath.

Fast Shot: Faster shots = more damage per second. Accuracy isn't as important.
Built to Destroy: The durability decrease isn't much compared to the extra crit stacking.
Rapid Reloads: A useful perk when you have several deathclaws, cazadors, nightclaws, etc. charging you and you need every second to count before they slaughter you or your companions, due to the very high damage they put out on Very Hard, even if you have 40 DT. If you're fighting groups of enemies, you'll have to reload eventually and the faster reloading will increase DPS. Finally, some weapons have pretty long reloads, although you won't be using them much once you have the really good ones.
Educated: You'll get an extra 50 or so skill points with this ability. It's not a mandatory perk, but it helps you get your Science and Med to 70 so you can pick up Living Anatomy and Math Wrath, and helps you get your Speech skill up.
Bloody Mess: 5% more damage on everything
Cowboy: Revolvers like the Ranger Sequoia and Mysterious Magnum pack a significant punch, and lever-action firearms includes powerful rifles like That Machine and the Cowboy Repeater.
Finesse: 5% more crit
Confirmed Bachelor: 10% more damage on male targets - perfect for a boost on legion troops and any other male targets
Hunter: Animals and mutated animals include Cazadors and Lakelurks. A 75% crit boost on these targets is great.
Better Criticals: 50% more crit damage
Purifier: Purifier targets Abomination, Ghoul, and Super Mutant type enemies, all of which tend to have a lot of HP.
Ninja: With this perk you'll be getting crits on almost every melee swing, making Oh, Baby! a very deadly weapon.
Super Slam: Activates all the time on blunt weapons. Perfect for knocking high HP enemies like Super Mutants and Deathclaws to the ground.
Jury Rigging: Lets you use powerful unique weapons and armor without having to worry about them eventually wearing out.
Nerves of Steel: More AP regen is always a good thing.
Living Anatomy: 5% more damage on all human targets and non feral ghouls
Math Wrath: 10% less AP use

Other perks to consider:

Commando and/or Sniper: More accuracy in VATS is good.
Grim Reaper's Spirit: Currently bugged so it doesn't work. But it's a good perk.
 

Wallach

Member
Surprised you think shotguns aren't great. Outside of extreme ranges they feel like the most powerful weapons in the game.
 
Blue Ninja said:
There's another hallway, not far from the place where you found that Ghoul. Check your Local Map if you can't find it, it'll probably still be covered by Fog of War. Once you go through, a Nightkin leader will initiate conversation with you.

Hmmm, but as said below, i must have killed him if i got access to the room with the ghoul in ? (harland is it ?)
 

thorin

Member
Jamesearlcash said:
Hmmm, but as said below, i must have killed him if i got access to the room with the ghoul in ? (harland is it ?)
Just before Harland's room, there's another room on the right with Davison in it. It's possible you could have passed it.
 
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