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FANT4STIC 4OUR |OT| Fantastic 4/10

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Feltrol

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My cousin over in Atlanta got to see an early screening & went into detail on why I shouldn't see it. I'm dodging the bullet, but that doesn't mean others will.

I trust his opinion, & not just because he's family. But yeah, he absolutely detested this movie.

Guess I will do the same, then - not worth it, after all.

Thank you for your opinion.

MARVEL'S GETTING DR. DOOM! MARVEL'S GETTING DR. DOOM!!!

Are you joking? You better not be joking!
 

Mizerman

Member
MARVEL'S GETTING DR. DOOM! MARVEL'S GETTING DR. DOOM!!!

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Hey guys, what if they'd actually gotten David Cronenberg to direct this

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It'd be his first movie where the freaks are unambiguous heroes.

That would be so wavy. It would have to be a smaller property than F4 though. I don't see anybody giving his weird ass free reign on a big property, not even WB.
 
This is a real line in the movie?

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What a mess what a goddamn mess goddamn how can this movie top all other bad movies it's like the pinnacle of what is bad made even better in return like the fantastic 4 movies from 2005.

That would be so wavy. It would have to be a smaller property than F4 though. I don't see anybody giving his weird ass free reign on a big property, not even WB.

I'm now imagining a movie where Tom Cruise plays Reed Richards, Mads Mikkelsen plays Doom, and David Cronenberg directs it as a body horror military superhero scientist film with overtones of Interstellar.

Oh, and it has a second act.
 

Sanjuro

Member
The
green goo that got in his blood let him make whatever he wants out of willpower.



The
green goo is alive. They left after a brief exposure. Doom got all up in that shit. More goo = more power.



Disagree completely. It didn't work in the film at all.

The movie makes a
very blatant show of his brother treating him like crap and using the line.

The Thing is shown as
having emotional hangups that are never resolved (and he's just suddenly magically OK w/Reed).

For him to suddenly decide to use "the line" as his battle cry in the climax makes absolutely zero sense since there is nothing in the character development to back it up. It's like the writers just threw it in because that's what he says, completely forgetting about what they'd done in the first act.

It doesn't work at all, but rather sticks out like a sore thumb.

The brother segment lasts for about a half second.

Ben and Reed have the most dynamic out of any of the characters and their resolution didn't need to be complicated. They had the only sort of bond in the film.
 
I have watched 4 YT video reviews of Fantastic Four and all of them said this movie was trying to be Dark Knight serious. This must be Fox right now.

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I'm now imagining a movie where Tom Cruise plays Reed Richards, Mads Mikkelsen plays Doom, and David Cronenberg directs it as a body horror military superhero scientist film with overtones of Interstellar.

Oh, and it has a second act.

seeing as it's cronenberg he'd drop mikkelsen and finally get viggo mortensen to play a villain in one of these
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and tom cruise as reed? hell no lol. george clooney is it for sure.
 

enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
O_O @ all this Dr. Doom talk. Doom is overrated tbqh.

I'm more interested in Marvel getting the rights to Galactus back when this movie 4lops. Once Thanos is dealth with in Infinity War, the MCU is going to need a bigger, more threatening main villain for Phase 4, and Doom is not it.

Ugh, just imagine how amazing Galactus making his first appearance in Guardians of the Galaxy 3 would be?
 
seeing as it's cronenberg he'd drop mikkelsen and finally get viggo mortensen to play a villain in one of these
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and tom cruise as reed? hell no lol. george clooney is it for sure.

I dunno, I see Mikkelsen as Doom-esque.

I can see cruise pulling off Reed's asshole attitude with the necessary charisma to make it palatable for regular folks
 

entremet

Member
Man, that's a big opening. Shame word of mouth will sink it.

All the goodwill Fox got from reviving X-Men ruined with FF.

They just can't get this franchise right.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Man, that's a big opening. Shame word of mouth will sink it.

All the goodwill Fox got from reviving X-Men ruined with FF.

They just can't get this franchise right.
You mean the $43 million opening weekend projection? Considering the film's budget, that's not good at all.
 

mreddie

Member
Real conversation with my oldest brother:

Brother: Thinking about seeing Fantastic 4
Me: Why? Haven't you seen Rogue Nation or Antman?
Brother (I'm not joking): Man, Antman looks gay and I'll see Mission Impossible on Bluray.
Me (In my head):
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Real conversation with my oldest brother:

Brother: Thinking about seeing Fantastic 4
Me: Why? Haven't you seen Rogue Nation or Antman?
Brother (I'm not joking): Man, Antman looks gay and I'll see Mission Impossible on Bluray.
Me (In my head):
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Well that's not a nice thing to say.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
...Damn.

Yeah, I was really rooting for this movie but it just wasn't good. Some of the most uneventful cinema I've ever witnessed.
 

Syriel

Member
The brother segment lasts for about a half second.

Ben and Reed have the most dynamic out of any of the characters and their resolution didn't need to be complicated. They had the only sort of bond in the film.

From Ben's perspective Reed abandoned him for more than a year, and just left him to the military. He's got a
screwed up body (that he blames on Reed)
, he lives an
isolated life (his "room" is bare)
and he's nothing more than
a living weapon
. The movie makes it clear Ben has mental issues out the wazoo.

Then Doom is all insta-killing people and suddenly Ben is best buds with Reed. It's not even a grudging "I'll work with you to stop this greater threat, but I'm still pissed and we have issues to work out" kind of thing. They're just suddenly bros again.

That bond was there early on, but it got smashed to bits when Reed ditched Ben.

So basically, they
turned him into Green Lantern
?

You could say that. A psycho evil version. ;)
 
O_O @ all this Dr. Doom talk. Doom is overrated tbqh.

I'm more interested in Marvel getting the rights to Galactus back when this movie 4lops. Once Thanos is dealth with in Infinity War, the MCU is going to need a bigger, more threatening main villain for Phase 4, and Doom is not it.

Ugh, just imagine how amazing Galactus making his first appearance in Guardians of the Galaxy 3 would be?
Bruh Doom in Secret Wars is currently the biggest most dangerous villain in Marvel history. Galactus is literally one of his pets and Thanos had to get saved before Doom killed him. There is no villain more threatening than Doom when he gets going and he proves it time and time again whenever some god being or whatever tries to fuck with him.
 

TheCashIsMine

Neo Member
O_O @ all this Dr. Doom talk. Doom is overrated tbqh.

I'm more interested in Marvel getting the rights to Galactus back when this movie 4lops. Once Thanos is dealth with in Infinity War, the MCU is going to need a bigger, more threatening main villain for Phase 4, and Doom is not it.

Ugh, just imagine how amazing Galactus making his first appearance in Guardians of the Galaxy 3 would be?

Doom done properly would be a hard villain to top imo.

Film was just eh for me, really not as bad as some make out.
 

MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?
I know right? What's wrong with a bloke in an armour and a cloak?

And if they were really going for the super nitty gritty thing, they could've just made him a hybrid of Lex Luthor's brains (NOT motives) with prep time Batman.
 

evanmisha

Member
The dialogue was terrible, and that's coming from someone who enjoyed Sense8.

"His biochemistry is reading off the charts!"

"The energy! It's alive! I can feel it!"

Also I can't believe they left some of the better effects shots on the cutting room floor. The shot of Johnny shooting drones while the government group is on their way to AREA 27 (LOCATION CLASSIFIED) looks downright unfinished. Like something out of a work print. Wish I was kidding.
 

Sanjuro

Member
Man from UNCLE just got a clean slate

I thought Man from U.N.C.L.E. was pretty good.

From Ben's perspective Reed abandoned him for more than a year, and just left him to the military. He's got a
screwed up body (that he blames on Reed)
, he lives an
isolated life (his "room" is bare)
and he's nothing more than
a living weapon
. The movie makes it clear Ben has mental issues out the wazoo.

Then Doom is all insta-killing people and suddenly Ben is best buds with Reed. It's not even a grudging "I'll work with you to stop this greater threat, but I'm still pissed and we have issues to work out" kind of thing. They're just suddenly bros again.

That bond was there early on, but it got smashed to bits when Reed ditched Ben.



You could say that. A psycho evil version. ;)

Well, yeah. It's still kind of broken. I just meant out of the characters in terms of a resolution, they made the most sense. There is obviously some kind of turn missing for the two characters. Probably burning in editing hell.
 
Man from UNCLE looks really fun tbh. I'm loving the 60s spy aesthetic by way of slick Guy Ritchie direction. Will be disappointed if thats not so good

Sanjuro you saw it already? How does it compare to the Sherlock Holmes movies. Similar chemistry?
 

Cuburt

Member
Wow.

I'm impressed that this film seems to have failed with critics so remarkably.

I didn't expect the response to be THIS bad. Even with the troubled production, I thought it being boring and unambitious was more likely than than being almost universally panned out the gate.

I'm stunned.
 
The
green goo that got in his blood let him make whatever he wants out of willpower.



The
green goo is alive. They left after a brief exposure. Doom got all up in that shit. More goo = more power.



Disagree completely. It didn't work in the film at all.

The movie makes a
very blatant show of his brother treating him like crap and using the line.

The Thing is shown as
having emotional hangups that are never resolved (and he's just suddenly magically OK w/Reed).

For him to suddenly decide to use "the line" as his battle cry in the climax makes absolutely zero sense since there is nothing in the character development to back it up. It's like the writers just threw it in because that's what he says, completely forgetting about what they'd done in the first act.

It doesn't work at all, but rather sticks out like a sore thumb.

It did make sense. The way the brother said it in the first act made it seem like it was a battle cry he had heard from elsewhere, except he said it in a wicked way. Ben - after a year of feeling abandonment and anger issues - then uses it as a battle cry against Doom. It absolutely makes sense for him to do that. The line isn't so much a "you are going down", but rather "I'm pissed at everyone".
 
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