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FANT4STIC 4OUR |OT| Fantastic 4/10

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whipihguh

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sarcastor said:
If the rights revert back to Marvel and FF4 gets entered into the MCU, will there be yet another origins movie?!?!??!?
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They'd probably go the Incredible Hulk or upcoming Spider-Man route, originally is quickly retold in the opening credits and intro and/or flashbacks.
 
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Garlador

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Well, at least they confirmed that a GOOD Fantastic Four sequel is being made.

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Tobor

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sarcastor said:
If the rights revert back to Marvel and FF4 gets entered into the MCU, will there be yet another origins movie?!?!??!?
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Nope. Just like there isn't an origin for the new spidey.

Besides, the FF would be much better older. Give Reed his grey temples and have them raising Franklin already.
 
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a916

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starchild excalibur said:
Saw this yesterday.

So, the film is pretty bad, but I didn't find it as abhorrent as some of the critical reviews made it out to seem. At the end of the day, I feel like Trank probably didn't really want to make a Fantastic Four film. Coming from Chronicle, I could appreciate some of the elements he included such as the relationship between Reed and Ben. As mentioned before, the body horror stuff was also an interesting take and I appreciated that there was more conflict amongst the group's members about whether to embrace their powers or whether to continually strive towards being normal again. The characterization of The Thing, especially, was intriguing and I wish they'd have pushed that even more.

That being said, it's still a very flawed film. The CG and green screen work is incredibly shoddy and conspicuous. Doom's absence through most of the film only to lead to a hurried finale with him was problematic. There's no chemistry between Reed and Sue, or Sue and Johnny. The portrayals of the military/government body was a bit campy and unbelievable. The actors felt bored and uninspired. And the dialogue was pretty bad at times.

It's by no means a good film, but I think it could have been had Trank directed a new IP with a smaller budget. The stuff that works in the film still doesn't really gel with what is fundamentally fantastic four. But like most things, I think the internet backlash was spoke more dramatically than was really warranted of the film.
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This kinda nails it on every point, from the campy/cliche government to the lack of chemistry to the poor CG work.

I loved the horror vibe they went with for the first half, thought it was going to pay off... didn't.

Didn't mind Doom (actor/look), the fight and motivation on the other hand, huh?

Also, I don't have any idea why people hate when they had the "ah ha, Fantastic" moment at the end... that was no where near as cringe worthy as Tony going "if we don't save the Earth, we'll make damn sure we avenge it"

I would love to hear the story behind it, because the first half of the movie felt completely different than the second half... if they had continued on that route, we could have ended up with a good movie, who knows.
 
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Zibrahim

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I liked this film. Really don't understand all the criticism it got.

It isn't a bad film at all. I wish Ben Grimm had more than 2 emotions and that the misanthropy of Doom was reasoned better in regards to his motivation in the final fight.

But as an origins story, I really don't know what people were expecting. I think this movie, compared to the one in the 2000s, was a more realistic origins story.

I hope they don't give up on this because of the box office and critical reception. It was a fine movie that has the potential to have a fantastic sequel.

Really kicking myself for not watching this film earlier because of criticism from the internet.
 
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it could have been a fine origin story if the stuff introduced in the first half had any impact on the Second part of the movie.
Maybe if this super heroe movie had action scenes ?

The origins of the character don't matter really ,what 's necessary for a fantastic 4 movie is how the 4 are behaving and this movie missed all the mark.
Should they get they powers by travelling ? should they get their powers by being hit by a solar flare ? or something else entirely ? NOT important.
Fantastic 4 is about discoveries, exploration, pushing the boundaries ...none of that is in this movie
Fantastic 4 is also about the team , their familly and how they behave together ... but you have none of that since they don't spend time as a group untill the end.

I could accept it as an "origin story" if the first part and the second part were coherent , but but after the trip it's clear that the priorities in term of story telling went to the ground

And this movie isn't pretty to look at .. it's unfinished both in visual effects and in montage..it's a frankeinstein object
 
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Strider_Blaze

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R_thanatos said:
it could have been a fine origin story if the stuff introduced in the first half had any impact on the Second part of the movie.
Maybe if this super heroe movie had action scenes ?

The origins of the character don't matter really ,what 's necessary for a fantastic 4 movie is how the 4 are behaving and this movie missed all the mark.
Should they get they powers by travelling ? should they get their powers by being hit by a solar flare ? or something else entirely ? NOT important.
Fantastic 4 is about discoveries, exploration, pushing the boundaries ...none of that is in this movie
Fantastic 4 is also about the team , their familly and how they behave together ... but you have none of that since they don't spend time as a group untill the end.

I could accept it as an "origin story" if the first part and the second part were coherent , but but after the trip it's clear that the priorities in term of story telling went to the ground

And this movie isn't pretty to look at .. it's unfinished both in visual effects and in montage..it's a frankeinstein object
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Pretty much all this. So many missed opportunities that would have potentially made the film great. ;_;

And although most of us pretty much agree that the film is terrible, my dad checked out the film (at the suggestion of my little sister, that is) and he regretted it. Although funny thing is that he didn't get how Susan Storm got her powers, despite not entering Planet Zero (my sister even knew how). Still doesn't excuse Susan Storm not entering the expedition, like in the comics though.
 
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IISANDERII

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The final end sequence battle was one of the best I've seen for these super hero films. I know that's not saying much but I was glued to the screen, it was very well done, far more interesting and deliberate than any Marvel film I can think of.

The problem was that the buildup and character development was lacking. Which is usually what I find by far the best part of superhero films.
 
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GuitarAtomik

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IISANDERII said:
The final end sequence battle was one of the best I've seen for these super hero films. I know that's not saying much but I was glued to the screen, it was very well done, far more interesting and deliberate than any Marvel film I can think of.

The problem was that the buildup and character development was lacking. Which is usually what I find by far the best part of superhero films.
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Really? I feel like that sequence was probably the weakest part of this already extremely weak movie. It wasn't a good action scene. It wasn't a good visual showpiece. It was edited, staged, and shot terribly. There wasn't anything interesting about it that I can think of. Even the setting was extremely drab.
 
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Fj0823

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IISANDERII said:
The final end sequence battle was one of the best I've seen for these super hero films. I know that's not saying much but I was glued to the screen, it was very well done, far more interesting and deliberate than any Marvel film I can think of.

The problem was that the buildup and character development was lacking. Which is usually what I find by far the best part of superhero films.
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You really need to watch Civil War...
 
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Ithil

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IISANDERII said:
The final end sequence battle was one of the best I've seen for these super hero films. I know that's not saying much but I was glued to the screen, it was very well done, far more interesting and deliberate than any Marvel film I can think of.

The problem was that the buildup and character development was lacking. Which is usually what I find by far the best part of superhero films.
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It was fucking awful.
 
Mengy

Mengy

wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
IISANDERII said:
The final end sequence battle was one of the best I've seen for these super hero films. I know that's not saying much but I was glued to the screen, it was very well done, far more interesting and deliberate than any Marvel film I can think of.
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Um, have you seen....ANY of the Marvel movies??? o_O



OMG, that gif!!!!!!


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This gif alone makes Man of Steel completely worth it!!!!!
 
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