Unless Fox asks them, Marvel has very say in the porptery, they can only step in if the characters were so out there it damages the brand. Like make Johnny racist and Sue the star of cuckhold porn.
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FANT4STIC 4OUR |OT| Fantastic 4/10
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Unless Fox asks them, Marvel has very say in the porptery, they can only step in if the characters were so out there it damages the brand. Like make Johnny racist and Sue the star of cuckhold porn.
Sibersk Esto
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Marvel has nothing to do with this movie
Lime_In_Da_Coconut
Banned
This is one of those films, like The Boondock Saints and Alien 3, where the production of the film would make a better movie than the actual movie.
Seriously, I would pay to find out what really happened behind the scenes.
Seriously, I would pay to find out what really happened behind the scenes.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Put this into perspective.
Movie is 90 minutes long.
First 40 minutes is introduction to the characters. An intro that is so stretched that it makes you think the movie is 2 hours and 30 minutes long.
Next 40 minutes is the accident and coping with it. Let's see a sequence we have seen in previous Fantastic Four movie but in a much slower burn and with no major consequences other than
This whole sequences felt super forced and seems like they wanted it to be like The Avengers without any content.
Next 6 minutes is DOOM. Finally, we are now introduced to the main Villain. He is fucking shit up. F4 has no real emotion even when something serious happens,
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Next 3 minutes is Fight Scene. Holy shit it's bad.
Next 1 minute is "What should we call ourselves?"
Next 2 minutes is Credits.
Fox/Trank fucked up hard. I can't believe they fucked up this hard. It's like there are sequences that are extremely missing. Actually, there are no scenes missing since the Fight Scene could've only ended one way.
Think of it this way. Remember "Iron Man", except the first 40 minutes is dealing with Tony Stark growing up from childhood to adulthood to him finally receiving the award, Next 35 minutes dealing with showing Jericho missile in Afghanistan, getting captured in Afghanistan and escaping in Iron Man suit Mk 1. Next 5 minutes is quickly making Iron Man Mk 3 suit, the Next 6 minutes is Iron Monger. Next 3 minutes is fight scene. Next 1 minute is "I am Iron Man". End Credit. All this without any real reason to give a fuck about the characters.
Movie is 90 minutes long.
First 40 minutes is introduction to the characters. An intro that is so stretched that it makes you think the movie is 2 hours and 30 minutes long.
Next 40 minutes is the accident and coping with it. Let's see a sequence we have seen in previous Fantastic Four movie but in a much slower burn and with no major consequences other than
"Okay, Reed escaped. Let's work for the military now. Yay. Flame on. Let's find Reed. Yay. Reed is back. Yay."
Next 6 minutes is DOOM. Finally, we are now introduced to the main Villain. He is fucking shit up. F4 has no real emotion even when something serious happens,
Like Father Storm dying
Next 3 minutes is Fight Scene. Holy shit it's bad.
Next 1 minute is "What should we call ourselves?"
Next 2 minutes is Credits.
Fox/Trank fucked up hard. I can't believe they fucked up this hard. It's like there are sequences that are extremely missing. Actually, there are no scenes missing since the Fight Scene could've only ended one way.
Think of it this way. Remember "Iron Man", except the first 40 minutes is dealing with Tony Stark growing up from childhood to adulthood to him finally receiving the award, Next 35 minutes dealing with showing Jericho missile in Afghanistan, getting captured in Afghanistan and escaping in Iron Man suit Mk 1. Next 5 minutes is quickly making Iron Man Mk 3 suit, the Next 6 minutes is Iron Monger. Next 3 minutes is fight scene. Next 1 minute is "I am Iron Man". End Credit. All this without any real reason to give a fuck about the characters.
The Silver
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no worries, BP is with Marvel.
darkhunger
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Seems to go both ways with Fox budget cutting and not delivering on what was promised and then with Trank's unprofessionalism on the set which led to some chaotic post-production.
Lime_In_Da_Coconut
Banned
The failure is being placed all on Trank. Notice how Fox has done next to nothing to quell the troubled behind the scenes rumors recently. They WANT people to blame Trank now, whether he deserves it or not.
statham
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ouch. guess I'll wait for netlfix.
Jawmuncher
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Can't believe how bad the box office for the film is apparently. I never would have though it would do worse than pixels opening weekend.
EDIT: NVM apparently it's still tracking to beat it, but not by much.
EDIT: NVM apparently it's still tracking to beat it, but not by much.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Fucking waiting for this. Got hooked on them thanks to their Minion review.
Was going to make a separate thread for this, but never mind. Fits in better here anyway.
Do you guys realize how many shit movies Miles Teller has been in?
I just watched That Awkward Moment via HBO Now and realizing he has another shitty romantic comedy on the same service. Looking over his IMDB page, he's been in three good movies. That's it. Divergent series is terrible, 21 & Over/Project X are both shitty teen party movies, he was in the Footloose remake (?!), the aforementioned shitty romantic comedies, and now Fantastic Four. He has two more movies coming out later this year, the quality of which I have no idea about but could go either way, and a weapons dealing comedy (?!) with Jonah Hill (?!?!) next year.
My point is, has there been any other actor in recent memory who was so hyped up yet had such a long list of garbage on his resume? I realize he was great in the three good movies he was in, and he's great in those crap movies, but his resume reads like a bad joke.
Do you guys realize how many shit movies Miles Teller has been in?
I just watched That Awkward Moment via HBO Now and realizing he has another shitty romantic comedy on the same service. Looking over his IMDB page, he's been in three good movies. That's it. Divergent series is terrible, 21 & Over/Project X are both shitty teen party movies, he was in the Footloose remake (?!), the aforementioned shitty romantic comedies, and now Fantastic Four. He has two more movies coming out later this year, the quality of which I have no idea about but could go either way, and a weapons dealing comedy (?!) with Jonah Hill (?!?!) next year.
My point is, has there been any other actor in recent memory who was so hyped up yet had such a long list of garbage on his resume? I realize he was great in the three good movies he was in, and he's great in those crap movies, but his resume reads like a bad joke.
Lime_In_Da_Coconut
Banned
The Thing Burger from Denny's is literally the best thing to come out of all of this...
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Why are you confused as to why people want him in their movies, then?
StopMakingSense
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Most actors have a ton of crap movies in the start of their career?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
This sounds so amazingly bad that I would want to watch it.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Damn Fanta, what are you doing? I mean, you should've been the one to strike this deal!
Finaika
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You really have to wonder how much this hurts the Marvel brand. I know quite a few of my casual movie watcher friends who were gonna see this because "it's a super hero movie made by Marvel". One of my friends was asking me how this ties in with the Infinity Gauntlet and the Avengers and I was like "wut".
I know quite a few people who saw the Amazing Spider Man 2 and thought it was watchable but said that this was irredeemable garbage. Some of them are kinda getting fed of super heroes movies as well.
Anecdotal evidence as well but you have to wonder the scope of the problems this movie is going to create. It goes beyond just demolishing the FF4 ip.
I know quite a few people who saw the Amazing Spider Man 2 and thought it was watchable but said that this was irredeemable garbage. Some of them are kinda getting fed of super heroes movies as well.
Anecdotal evidence as well but you have to wonder the scope of the problems this movie is going to create. It goes beyond just demolishing the FF4 ip.
Paul Rudd wasn't getting awards buzz last year.
Wasn't my point at all. Just making an observation.
I just find the drastic gaps of movie quality he's been in over the past couple of years interesting. That's it. Goes from critically acclaimed Spectacular Now/Whiplash to crap romcoms and franchise films.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
What was your point, then? You seemed surprised that his resume had a bunch of bad movies on it, even though you said he's great in all those movies.
So now look at other great actors' imdb pages.
See if you can find any similarities.
The common denominator is that most great actors don't write or direct the movies they're in, and as such, the quality of the film in which they give their great performances can and will be highly variable. Hell, even when they DO write and/or direct the movies they're in, the quality is highly variable.
He's a guy taking jobs. According to you, he's doing his job well, even when the movie isn't overall a job well done. So what's the point of the observation you're making?
Never seen these guys til now but damn they're entertaining.
WrenchNinja
Member
That's pretty impressive.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The user rating on IMDB is now actually 4/10 lol:
Put it in the OP.
When I go on break.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
And again: That OP was magnificent.
Nevermind, got it in quick.
Thank you, thank you.
Zeyphersan
Banned
9% is lower than I would have ever guessed, wow
Love these guys i was waiting for them.
Also Angry Joe did one but clearly it was a mistake to see it
Finaika
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Also Angry Joe did one but clearly it was a mistake to see it
He loved Man of Steel, so I would take his opinions with a grain of salt.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I wouldn't take his fuckin' opinions at all.
roflwaffles
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I think Singer does X-Men just fine, but I don't think many of his other films are good. He's too busy with X-Men to work on this.
Matthew Vaughn sounds like he would be the perfect guy to revitalize this franchise.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The Usual Suspects, Apt Pupil, and Valkyrie are usually considered to be pretty good movies.
Better than his superhero fare, actually.
Zeyphersan
Banned
New favorite reviewers, holy shit
Lil'DigiOp
Member
Honestly, Marvel sorta fucked up Ultron, so villains in general are cursed.
My fear, this could taint the whole genre but is that too paranoid?
No, I've only seen this level of ultra cross promotion when a film is going to be really bad. Like the studio figures they may as well go heavy on marketing to try to attract more people since word of mouth will likely be poor. Green Lantern was the same way for example. I saw that ugly costume everywhere when that film dropped.
Dufase19089
Banned
This is pretty much how Fox treated Josh Trank during the making of Fantastic 4
This is the best superhero movie thread everThis is pretty much how Fox treated Josh Trank during the making of Fantastic 4
Mix Master
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This is pretty much how Fox treated Josh Trank during the making of Fantastic 4
best thread ever.
Frostinferno
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Saw this last night and man, what an absolute mess.
Shagg's post is depressingly spot on. The movie really does start out in a way you'd expect a solid 2+ hour movie to start out, but relative to what's left, you end up feeling like it was a waste of time. I think the movie's biggest offense is that it's simply not a Fantastic Four movie. There is no group dynamic here. There's no family. Heck, even in the literal sense the relationship between Johnny and Sue was non-existent. You wouldn't even think they're friends, much less siblings. Reed and Ben had a solid set up of friendship, but that all gets tossed aside after the accident. Worse yet, Ben barely has any interactions with the other characters. If I'm not mistaken, his only dialogue exchange with Johnny happens literally a couple minutes before the movie ends. Nothing of worth with Sue either. There was also nothing clever or special about how they worked together in the climax. And to top it all off, you get the worst delivery of the line "It's clobberin' time" in any medium. Sounded so forced and rushed, that I'd rather he not have said it at all.
I don't even want to get into how multiple times there were scenes that basically completely ignored the ones that came before it, causing blatant logical and emotional inconsistencies. It's all setup with failure of payoff. The movie tries to be dramatic, but ultimately fails at it. It tries to be a superhero movie, but ultimately fails at it. And it tries to be a Fantastic Four movie, but ultimately fails at it. Any time people are disappointed with a MCU (or upcoming DCCU) movie, they should (re)watch this movie and remember it could be so much worse.
Shagg's post is depressingly spot on. The movie really does start out in a way you'd expect a solid 2+ hour movie to start out, but relative to what's left, you end up feeling like it was a waste of time. I think the movie's biggest offense is that it's simply not a Fantastic Four movie. There is no group dynamic here. There's no family. Heck, even in the literal sense the relationship between Johnny and Sue was non-existent. You wouldn't even think they're friends, much less siblings. Reed and Ben had a solid set up of friendship, but that all gets tossed aside after the accident. Worse yet, Ben barely has any interactions with the other characters. If I'm not mistaken, his only dialogue exchange with Johnny happens literally a couple minutes before the movie ends. Nothing of worth with Sue either. There was also nothing clever or special about how they worked together in the climax. And to top it all off, you get the worst delivery of the line "It's clobberin' time" in any medium. Sounded so forced and rushed, that I'd rather he not have said it at all.
I don't even want to get into how multiple times there were scenes that basically completely ignored the ones that came before it, causing blatant logical and emotional inconsistencies. It's all setup with failure of payoff. The movie tries to be dramatic, but ultimately fails at it. It tries to be a superhero movie, but ultimately fails at it. And it tries to be a Fantastic Four movie, but ultimately fails at it. Any time people are disappointed with a MCU (or upcoming DCCU) movie, they should (re)watch this movie and remember it could be so much worse.
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