Father Attacks Son's Bullies With Pepper Spray
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ComputerMKII
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He won't always be around to protect his son. He should have taught him how to fight instead.
BobbyRobby
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this shouldn't be legal, but i don't really care that it happened provided his son was attacked violently.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Why are four 13-year-olds bullying an 8-year-old? I feel like there's more to the story...
They played too much of Rockstar's Bully.
Because they're assholes? I was bullied by older kids when I was that age. It isn't uncommon.
He should have taught his 8 year old how I fight four 13 year olds? Sounds like a brilliant plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUPCQ-Q_8Zk - NSFW language.
I completely disagree, he was defending his son. Nothing should be illegal about that.
I don't approve but I understand. Fucking kids picking on an eight-year old.
I don't think this was during the actual incident where his son was being attacked.
I don't think this was during the actual incident where his son was being attacked.
Like what? Bullies gonna bully. There really doesn't need to be any more to the story than that they were bigger and stronger than he was and took advantage of that fact.
Sometimes nothing special, might be the most down to earth parents.
It's not just the parents.
Shouldn't matter. Non lethal force was used, extreme measures should be allowed to deal with the bully problem we have and have had in America for a long time.
Clockwork5
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Teach his 8 year old how to take on a group of four 13 year olds? I get your point though.
If these kids actually attacked his son then I say, BRAVO good sir!
I bet his son and him have never been closer.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I'm ok with this. As long as there is not more to the story.
Freezie KO
Banned
I fear for repercussions for his son. But if the father has to face charges, so should the bullies.
BobbyRobby
Member
the danger wasn't imminent though. it already happened, and at that point there are other venues.
i'd be fully down with giving his kid the pepper spray to use on threats when they arise.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Ordinarily the "parent attacks bully" stories I don't really feel any sympathy towards the parents at all. In this case though 4 13 year olds ganging up on an 8 year old is probably worse than an adult pepper spraying 4 13 year olds. Charges need to be filed on the bullies as well.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
If it happens while the kids are beating on the younger kid, I could see where pepper spraying the other kids would be more preferable than knocking the other kids off of the younger kid. If he just tracked them down to squirt them, that seems like a bit much. The story doesn't really establish any sort of timeline.
Sure, but four against one and they're considerably older? Fuck that, I'd defend my boy too.
metalslimer
Member
Shouldn't have done it but feel no sympathy for the kids. Bullies deserve what they get
I cannot put in words the rage I would feel if I saw anyone at any age ganging up on my son. I would jump in if it was four teens. Four 13 year old kids could do serious damage to an 8 year old even if they don't mean to hurt him badly. One or two bad punches or kicks and it's brain damage or death.
the_log_ride
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Man, this is something I think about all the time, and I wonder how I would react in the same situation.
From the article, the event where these bullies attacked the 8 year old happened some time before the father retaliated, right? For me it would be a lot different if the dad went outside, saw the bullies beating his kid down, and then came after them with the pepper spray, compared to the dad deciding to go after the kids after finding out.
Bullying is so damn terrible. I hope I can instill enough self confidence and knowledge in my own child so that he or she will know what to do if something like this happens.
From the article, the event where these bullies attacked the 8 year old happened some time before the father retaliated, right? For me it would be a lot different if the dad went outside, saw the bullies beating his kid down, and then came after them with the pepper spray, compared to the dad deciding to go after the kids after finding out.
Bullying is so damn terrible. I hope I can instill enough self confidence and knowledge in my own child so that he or she will know what to do if something like this happens.
I honestly don't see how this is even that bad. He used pepper spray. He didn't physically assault them. Considering there were 4 of them and they were bullying a kid 5 years younger, the father did about the best thing he could short of just telling them to stop. Yeah he probably could have avoided this but if I ever saw 4 older kids hurting my much younger son I'm sure I could be capable of worse.
There are so many persistent self-protecting layers to bullying that I cant even comprehend it.
Self-protecting. First of all, the bullied kid is heavily discouraged from asking from outside help, because most likely he wont be removed from the situation, and once they are without adult supervision, they will turn on him again, but more viciously. The mere threat of that is sometimes enough as a deterrent.
Then there are the adults that do not have the energy or the push required to deal with THEIR shit (a.k.a. the personality deficiencies they let their kids get away with) and just say "kids be kids, let them do whatever, they need to figure life out somehow". Damn.
Then there are those that focus solely on the bullies, and act like whenever something like this happens, it is simply the bully's faults. But I think that it is really not. The way these kids can get away with anything is the distortion that allows these events to happen in the first place. It is the same with any other crime: you are a good citizen but then when you commit a crime, you are suddenly not. Let us ignore that society acted as a birthing pod for you, yeah!
Bullying is the very essence of everything that is wrong with us, and we are all sometimes guilty of it, to a certain extent. Even online. I understand that. But the way it paralyzes whole societies - and constantly keeps making victims and bullies that eventually get caught in their own traps - is simply horrifying.
Self-protecting. First of all, the bullied kid is heavily discouraged from asking from outside help, because most likely he wont be removed from the situation, and once they are without adult supervision, they will turn on him again, but more viciously. The mere threat of that is sometimes enough as a deterrent.
Then there are the adults that do not have the energy or the push required to deal with THEIR shit (a.k.a. the personality deficiencies they let their kids get away with) and just say "kids be kids, let them do whatever, they need to figure life out somehow". Damn.
Then there are those that focus solely on the bullies, and act like whenever something like this happens, it is simply the bully's faults. But I think that it is really not. The way these kids can get away with anything is the distortion that allows these events to happen in the first place. It is the same with any other crime: you are a good citizen but then when you commit a crime, you are suddenly not. Let us ignore that society acted as a birthing pod for you, yeah!
Bullying is the very essence of everything that is wrong with us, and we are all sometimes guilty of it, to a certain extent. Even online. I understand that. But the way it paralyzes whole societies - and constantly keeps making victims and bullies that eventually get caught in their own traps - is simply horrifying.
Cow Mengde
Banned
The man deserves a medal.
Lionel Mandrake
Member
For some reason, I found all of the "may have"s hilarious.
Psychoward
Banned
Ehh, can't find too much fault with the dad, it's not like it was verbal abuse and then he escalated. If the older kids really did actually beat up his son, eh. He could have handled it better, but still, I have trouble blaming him.
I agree.
I just see an instance where the parents are bullies themselves or just deny their spawn is capable of that.
Choke on the Magic
Banned
Not sure how I feel about this. Better pepper spray than a physical beat down i guess. If it were my son doing the bullying I would have definitely prefered the parent come to me instead of pepper spraying my bully kid.
Yeah cause a 8yo kid can totally defend himself against four teenagers.
Oh dear. What did the teacher do?
Baconsammy
Banned
As a dad, I'm torn. You don't stop monsters by becoming one. But on the other hand, if I saw a group of bullies beating my child and stealing from her, I'd react. Possibly irrationally.
nothing, he than walked into the principals office and told the principal everything. The principal flipped but didn't call the police because he whas an old customer of my ex boss.
later this day he showed up at the house of the boy and talked to the dad of the boy - threatend him even.
all in all a bit extreme but he justified this because he didn't want to have a suicide case because of ongoing assaults
Teach to fight, get FOID, buy guy.
I agree as long as he knows who they are. I've seen plenty of kids around here, but couldn't tell you where they lived if I had to find them one day.
No 8 year old is going to beat up a group of 13 year old kids.
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