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[Seductivpancakes]

So he was just making false shit up?

 

[royalan]

Why not wait until he has a press conference?

I mean... All he did was announce he was he was still looking into the emails, which could or could not be serious. After all, nothing has been announced and Clinton is certainly not guilty. I would rather have due process than abstaining it for the sake of an election.

But abstaining for the sake of an election so as not to influence the results is FBI tradition. Comey's action breaks precedent and is incredibly reckless. The FBI rarely ever comments on ongoing investigations, and breaking that standard practice just to tell a bloodthirsty Republican Congress that he... Knows nothing 11 days from the election is irresponsible at BEST, and blatant partisan game playing at the most likely.

For fuck's sake, he sent a letter to other FBI employees explicitly telling them he had nothing, this was unprecedented, he wasn't obligated to approach Congress with this, it would be misunderstood, but was going to do it anyway. Enough with the bullshit excuses.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

You all are thinking in the here and now and not thinking about what goes in the decision to announce this stuff now. Regardless of whether its going on now or when Hillary has won the election, you are going to decry that you are wronged. At least, I don't know what you want him to do? What do you want him to do in this instance? Leave it alone?

It says in the letter itself that it's unprecedented for the FBI announce or comment on this sort of information at all, let alone announce it 11 days before an election.

 

[Linkura]

Actually the FBI is investigating because it is already known that HRC sent and received classified email on her private server and there is now additional evidence which requires further investigation.

Except there are no emails to or from Clinton involved in this.

 

[Ozigizo]

At least, I don't know what you want him to do? What do you want him to do in this instance? Leave it alone?

Not announce a scandal when there's literally fucking nothing?

You're blind if you think this isn't politicaly driven.

 

[diablos991]

Wow, well I don't think Comey is gonna keep his job for long.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html

What a piece of shit.

He should be fired immediately.

A man does his job and people are calling for him to be fired because he dared say negative things about Hillary?

The guy knows the risks and after the briefing from his agents decided this needed to be done.

My guess is we have something juicy in here against Huma, Clinton, or the foundation. I see no other reason for him to time it like this since Republicans already disliked him for not recommending indictment.

 

[B4s5C]

Actually the FBI is investigating because it is already known that HRC sent and received classified email on her private server and there is now additional evidence which requires further investigation.

Exactly.

The people who are crying foul are not going to be if he finds nothing and has a press conference over it.

Like. I love transparency in any part of the government. Encourage it.

 

[reckless]

So he was just making false shit up?

Nah, just wording the announcement in a vary vague way so people can jump to whatever conclusions they want.

 

[Chumley]

Actually the FBI is investigating because it is already known that HRC sent and received classified email on her private server and there is now additional evidence which requires further investigation.

At least read the fucking leaked letter before trying to contribute.

 

[Biske]

If he didn't do this just to fuck with Clinton and help out republicans, then he is criminally inept. Jesus christ.

How would you not fucking know?

You can't claim that you are both not trying to fuck with elections AND being abundantly cautious and then do this.




And then be like "but dont worry folks, I'll get back to you in a few days with some specifics and real info."


Fuck. You.



And goddamn Anthony Weiner, what a piece of shit, keep it in your pants and go watch some porn or fuckin pay for a hooker, god damn man.

 

[B4s5C]

Not announce a scandal when there's literally fucking nothing?

You're blind if you think this isn't politicaly driven.

So he should not be transparent about what he is doing?

If he finds nothing, and Hillary becomes President, he is out.

If he does, wouldn't that be a good thing?

Wouldn't it be good to punish those that break laws?

 

[Amir0x]

You all are thinking in the here and now and not thinking about what goes in the decision to announce this stuff now. Regardless of whether its going on now or when Hillary has won the election, you are going to decry that you are wronged. At least, I don't know what you want him to do? What do you want him to do in this instance? Leave it alone?

I want him to shut his disgusting, republican mouth up and not release a letter filled with NOTHING until such time these weiner email demonstrated some actual connection to Hillary and criminal activity.

This isnt rocket science. Fuckface Comey himself said he didnt need to do this and it is ridiculously unusual and partisan.

What i want is an FBI director not to be an incompetent jackass. Simple.

 

[Chumly]

A man does his job and people are calling for him to be fired because he dared say negative things about Hillary?

The guy knows the risks and after the briefing from his agents decided this needed to be done.

My guess is we have something juicy in here against Huma, Clinton, or the foundation. I see no other reason for him to time it like this since Republicans already disliked him for not recommending indictment.

Lol you think there's some juicy? Clinton and democrats have already asked him to release the emails. There's nothing there. If there really is then he should provide the information

 

[Snowybreak]

You all are thinking in the here and now and not thinking about what goes in the decision to announce this stuff now. Regardless of whether its going on now or when Hillary has won the election, you are going to decry that you are wronged. At least, I don't know what you want him to do? What do you want him to do in this instance? Leave it alone?

Jesus fucking Christ. Everyone here has been discussing for the past... 10 pages exactly the decision-making that goes into releasing a statement like this.

 

[B4s5C]

I want him to shut his disgusting, republican mouth up and not release a letter filled with NOTHING until such time these weiner email demonstrated some actual connection to Hillary and criminal activity.

This isnt rocket science. Fuckface Comey himself said he didnt need to do this and it is ridiculously unusual and partisan.

What i want is an FBI director not to be an incompetent jackass. Simple.

Wow.

 

[reckless]

Actually the FBI is investigating because it is already known that HRC sent and received classified email on her private server and there is now additional evidence which requires further investigation.

A man does his job and people are calling for him to be fired because he dared say negative things about Hillary?

The guy knows the risks and after the briefing from his agents decided this needed to be done.

My guess is we have something juicy in here against Huma, Clinton, or the foundation. I see no other reason for him to time it like this since Republicans already disliked him for not recommending indictment.

Reposting from last page...

There is no indication the emails in question were withheld by Clinton during the investigation, the law enforcement official told Newsweek, nor does the discovery suggest she did anything illegal. Also, none of the emails were to or from Clinton, the official said.

This new evidence relates to how Abedin managed her emails. She maintained four email accounts—an unclassified State Department account, another on the clintonemail.com domain and a third on Yahoo. The fourth was linked to her husband’s account; she used it to support his activities when he was running for Congress, investigative records show. Abedin, who did not know Clinton used a private server for her emails, told the bureau in an April interview that she used the account on the clintonemail.com domain only for issues related to the Secretary’s personal affairs, such as communicating with her friends. For work-related records, Abedin primarily used the email account provided to her by the State Department.

This procedure for printing documents, the government official says, appears to be how the newly discovered emails ended up on the laptop shared by Abedin and her husband. It is unclear whether any of those documents were downloaded onto the laptop off of her personal email accounts or were saved on an external storage device, such as a flash drive, and then transferred to the shared computer. There is also evidence that the laptop was used to send emails from Abedin to Clinton; however, none of those emails are the ones being examined by the FBI. Moreover, unless she was told by Abedin in every instance, Clinton could not have known what device her aide was using to transmit electronic information to her.

If the FBI determines that any of the documents that ended up on the shared device were classified, Abedin could be deemed to have mishandled them. In order to prove that was a criminal offense, however, investigators would have to establish that Abedin had intended to disclose the contents of those classified documents, or that she knew she was mishandling that information.

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-cli...onald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918
Taking that and doing what he did is not right..

 

[Chumley]

So he should not be transparent about what he is doing?

If he finds nothing, and Hillary becomes President, he is out.

If he does, wouldn't that be a good thing?

Wouldn't it be good to punish those that break laws?

This is next level ignorance and naivety and it's giving me a headache. Fuck.

 

[RustyNails]

Why not wait until he has a press conference?

I mean... All he did was announce he was he was still looking into the emails, which could or could not be serious. After all, nothing has been announced and Clinton is certainly not guilty. I would rather have due process than abstaining it for the sake of an election.

Edit: I mean, look at Hillgaf. Ya'll are getting yourself in a tizzy about nothing. You don't even know what is in the contents of the emails any you are making sure judgments against the FBI Director who has seen them and made the judgment. I don't know what you want him to do? Stop? If he stops and it comes out he is looking into it when Hillary is president would you say its a right-wing conspiracy? Would you say its okay?

FBI director hasn't seen them. He said so in his letter.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

So he should not be transparent about what he is doing?

If he finds nothing, and Hillary becomes President, he is out.

If he does, wouldn't that be a good thing?

Wouldn't it be good to punish those that break laws?

Oh boy. (usual suspects, by the way)

 

[Ozigizo]

So he should not be transparent about what he is doing?

If he finds nothing, and Hillary becomes President, he is out.

If he does, wouldn't that be a good thing?

Wouldn't it be good to punish those that break laws?

Ok, you're purposefully being obtuse.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

A man does his job and people are calling for him to be fired because he dared say negative things about Hillary?

The guy knows the risks and after the briefing from his agents decided this needed to be done.

My guess is we have something juicy in here against Huma, Clinton, or the foundation. I see no other reason for him to time it like this since Republicans already disliked him for not recommending indictment.

Yeah, its so "juicy" (LOL) that Clinton asked for the emails to be released.

I guess she really wants to go to prison!

 

[Xe4]

Actually the FBI is investigating because it is already known that HRC sent and received classified email on her private server and there is now additional evidence which requires further investigation.

Clinton never sent classified info, only received it via chains, I believe. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,though.

 

[Blader]

A man does his job and people are calling for him to be fired because he dared say negative things about Hillary?

The guy knows the risks and after the briefing from his agents decided this needed to be done.

My guess is we have something juicy in here against Huma, Clinton, or the foundation. I see no other reason for him to time it like this since Republicans already disliked him for not recommending indictment.

It's not his job; he was not required to send any letter, much less one as vaguely written as that. He did it because he wanted to.

And if there's something juicy in those emails, then Hillary is sure being foolish in asking the FBI to release them.

 

[4Tran]

A man does his job and people are calling for him to be fired because he dared say negative things about Hillary?

The guy knows the risks and after the briefing from his agents decided this needed to be done.

My guess is we have something juicy in here against Huma, Clinton, or the foundation. I see no other reason for him to time it like this since Republicans already disliked him for not recommending indictment.

That's dumb. Comey isn't being criticized for looking into whether Weiner's emails are pertinent to other investigations. He's being slammed because he publicized a nonstory unnecessarily. And that changes the complexion from him doing his job to Comey performing political interference less than two weeks before an election. And it is this very activity that will get him canned.

 

[B4s5C]

FBI director hasn't seen them. He said so in his letter.

In the same article from the Washinton Post:

In Comey’s note to employees, he seemed to anticipate that his decision would be controversial.

“In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood,” Comey wrote.

Edit: It's being obtuse to take one side in bias, without taking the other at its word. Especially if one is so biased as a conservative that he would find Clinton guilty but he did not when he announced the findings three months ago.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

You all are thinking in the here and now and not thinking about what goes in the decision to announce this stuff now. Regardless of whether its going on now or when Hillary has won the election, you are going to decry that you are wronged. At least, I don't know what you want him to do? What do you want him to do in this instance? Leave it alone?

Gather the facts, synthesize, and then inform. In that order.

 

[Tranqueris]

FBI director hasn't seen them. He said so in his letter.

Such extreme carelessness.

 

[Amir0x]

Wow.

Anyone with basic reading comprehension can read it for what it is.

1.) He admits not having to do this.
2.) He admits he does not know shit about the relevancy of this new stuff to Hillary.
3.) Coyly admits he might be misunderstood politically (oldest "im objective trust me" trick in the book)
4.) Despite not knowing anything, he writes this letter to a Republican dominated committee.

This off the back of his universally derided unprecedented partisan hackjob on Hillary when he gave his not indict speech.

This is inarguably done to fire up the imagination of voters designed to think the worst of Hillary due to her trust deficit. Political hackery 101.

Comey is a sick bastard, and he will be punished in his career for his grotesque behavior. Hope he likes Arby's.

 

[diablos991]

Yeah, its so "juicy" (LOL) that Clinton asked for the emails to be released.

I guess she really wants to go to prison!

Easier to get ahead of things, cover your tracks, and influence dispositions if you can sick your entire team on the email stack before the FBI can finish an investigation.

While I do agree the content needs to be released simply because of how close we are to the election I wouldn't want to sacrifice an investigation that could bring justice.

 

[RustyNails]

So he should not be transparent about what he is doing?

If he finds nothing, and Hillary becomes President, he is out.

If he does, wouldn't that be a good thing?

Wouldn't it be good to punish those that break laws?

No he shouldn't be transparent about what he is doing. It's an investigations bureau, not a fucking tabloid.

FBI has hundreds of active investigations going. If you ask them about any of them, they will respond with "We do not comment on active investigations" precisely for reasons why todays commentary by Comey blew up in his face. Why did this received a special merit above say, let me throw a wild guess out there, investigation over Manafort/Trump campaign ties to Russia?

 

[4Tran]

In the same article from the Washinton Post:

Yeah, and everything about that memo was dumb. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

 

[Machina]

This is Nixon style dirty tricks politics. Fucking desperate, thuggish and dangerous game the Republicans and their paid off friends in government organizations are trying to pull.

 

[Blader]

In the same article from the Washinton Post:

He anticipated his letter would be misunderstood and politicized...and then went and did it anyway, because why not. What are you arguing?

 

[Chumly]

It's not his job; he was not required to send any letter, much less one as vaguely written as that. He did it because he wanted to.

And if there's something juicy in those emails, then Hillary is sure being foolish in asking the FBI to release them.

Republican and their conspiracy theories are just embarrassing at this point. Democrats and Clinton WANT them to release the information yet it's being "investigated" so republicans can spin bullshit theories to try and win an election.

 

[Xe4]

That's dumb. Comey isn't being criticized for looking into whether Weiner's emails are pertinent to other investigations. He's being slammed because he publicized a nonstory unnecessarily. And that changes the complexion from him doing his job to Comey performing political interference less than two weeks before an election. And it is this very activity that will get him canned.

Actually, he's probably doing it so he doesn't get fired. HRC won't want the blow back for replacing the FBI director while under investigation.

 

[B4s5C]

No he shouldn't be transparent about what he is doing. It's an investigations bureau, not a fucking tabloid.

FBI has hundreds of active investigations going. If you ask them about any of them, they will respond with "We do not comment on active investigations" precisely for reasons why todays commentary by Comey blew up in his face. Why did this received a special merit above say, let me throw a wild guess out there, investigation over Manafort/Drumpf campaign ties to Russia?

So he should not have had a press conference three months ago when he was confident Clinton did not break the law?

Edit: Because if he didn't then we would have heard about Clinton emails for the past three months rather than how horrible Trump is as a person.

 

[Blader]

So he should not have had a press conference three months ago when he was confident Clinton did not break the law?

No, he shouldn't have. By his own admission, holding a press conference like that (especially when the ultimate recommendation is *not* to indict) is also highly unusual.

 

[Ozigizo]

So he should not have had a press conference three months ago when he was confident Clinton did not break the law?

They had already actually investigated the emails. And that was still a clear political move.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[rjinaz]

Exactly.

The people who are crying foul are not going to be if he finds nothing and has a press conference over it.

Like. I love transparency in any part of the government. Encourage it.

What the Republicans have been doing to Hillary for years now has nothing to do with transparency. This is just another chapter in their goals to ruin her. Just like they were happy to have those hacked emails regardless that they were stolen because of the disguise of "transparency". Heck Pence even said "thanks to wikileaks".

Anyway, I'm not going to speak for Comey's motives here though. I can't say what they are if any at all, nor have I been harsh on him. I defended him earlier.

 

[Amir0x]

Easier to get ahead of things, cover your tracks, and influence dispositions if you can sick your entire team on the email stack before the FBI can finish an investigation.

While I do agree the content needs to be released simply because of how close we are to the election I wouldn't want to sacrifice an investigation that could bring justice.

Yeah me either. Let Comey keep hanging himself so Madam President can shitblast him out of his career, since there is demonstrably nothing wrong in the emails.

Justice will be served against anhorrent, incompetent FBI directors.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

No, he shouldn't have. By his own admission, holding a press conference like that when the ultimate recommendation is *not* to indict is also highly unusual.

He also pandered to the right(and busters) by offering up his own opinions that they could run with. Non-partisan tho.

 

[B4s5C]

They had already actually investigated the emails.

What the hell are you talking about?

The fact that he had a press conference and "Clinton's emails" have been out of the spotlight ever since then.

 

[Xe4]

So he should not have had a press conference three months ago when he was confident Clinton did not break the law?

Edit: Because if he didn't then we would have heard about Clinton emails for the past three months rather than how horrible Trump is as a person.

The usual way to release information like that is to release a report, and go to hearings, not hold a press conference.

 

[RustyNails]

So he should not have had a press conference three months ago when he was confident Clinton did not break the law?

FBI completed its findings by then.

 

[royalan]

Actually, he's probably doing it so he doesn't get fired. HRC won't want the blow back for replacing the FBI director while under investigation.

The only blowback she'd get is from people who already hate her and Democrats.

Hillary is not as naive to the game of Politics as Obama. If Comey is still around when she takes office (big if), guaranteed she forces his ass out.

Fuck the blowback, she has governing to do.

 

[digdug2k]

Yeah his career is done. He will forever be remembered as the guy who tainted the reputation of FBI by trying to influence the outcome of an election, wittingly or unwittingly.

Wittingly. He's not an idiot. He's the fucking director of the FBI, not a Senator. (and he's done this before). But this isn't a court room. You don't have to play "I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until we've done a billion dollar inquiry" here on GAF.

 

[Biske]

I think The Young Turks, some proven Hillary haters, sum this up pretty nicely.

Its just unconscionable, no matter how you feel about Hillary. Even if you support Trump, coming out with this vague bullshit and no information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_7dOPzb3aM

 

[4Tran]

Actually, he's probably doing it so he doesn't get fired. HRC won't want the blow back for replacing the FBI director while under investigation.

This accomplishes the very opposite. Clinton has just been given more than enough rope to hang him. And her statement in response is a signal that she will do just that. There's no way that Clinton can keep Comey on as the head of the FBI, so he's toast.

 

[Clockwork5]

Clinton never sent classified info, only received it via chains, I believe. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,though.

You are wrong. Not all of it was marked but classified info went both ways on the server.

 

[Ozigizo]

The fact that he had a press conference and "Clinton's emails" have been out of the spotlight ever since then.

Yes, as I put in my edited post, that too was politically motivated. The director of the FBI should not be partisan.

Where was the investigation in to Trump's Russian ties?