FBI reviewing emails found on devices used by Weiner/Abedin

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Team Alucard said:
If he really wanted to influence the election he would have recommended indictment back in July. Period.
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He career would have been over even faster if he did that, lol.

Have you actually read the FBI report? There was nothing to charge her with, not even close.

B4s5C said:
What should he have done?
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Pretty simple, not send the letter.

He admits himself that he did not need too.
 
Suikoguy said:
He career would have been over even faster if he did that, lol.

Have you actually read the FBI report? There was nothing to charge her with, not even close.



Pretty simple, not send the letter.

He admits himself that he did not need too.
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If he were investigating Trump, should he send the letter?
 
Team Alucard said:
If he really wanted to influence the election he would have recommended indictment back in July. Period.
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This shit is amazing. He provided influence by making a spectacle about not indicting and offering the world his blunt opinions in a way unprecedented.

It became politically motivated in that very moment.
 
B4s5C said:
If he were investigating Trump, should he send the letter?
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Probably not, depends on what evidence he had obtained.

In this case, there is literally 0 evidence.
 
Team Alucard said:
If he really wanted to influence the election he would have recommended indictment back in July. Period.
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Well this may come as a shocker, but, he may not have found anything criminal going on and actually respects the office that he holds enough not to lie even if it would serve his interests.
 
I'd like this to be one of those "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence" situations, but this beggars even the slightest benefit of the doubt.

At worst, this is a concerted effort to leave questions festering over the remaining days only to scurry out after Election Day with another "itsfuckingnothing.gif" press conference. At best, it's Comey half-heartedly auditioning for his next job at Fox News after Hillary kicks him to the curb (which would've happened regardless of this particular indiscretion anyway).

In either case, the effect is diminished because no one who was on the fence is going to be influenced one way or another by this latest non-story. Whereas Trump's October surprise revealed his true character to the stragglers in the middle who were still receptive to logic, those same people aren't going to be swayed by yet another vague e-mails "bombshell" to whose contents Wikileaks has done such a fine job of dulling the masses.
 
Going to bed now and still can't believe yesterday happened. Literally no new information other than "we're looking into something" which happens all the fucking time. God help us if Trump somehow wins this and then the FBI says "oops nothing was there".
 
Suikoguy said:
Probably not, depends on what evidence he had obtained.

In this case, there is literally 0 evidence.
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Then I respect that.

But I would have to argue against the 0 evidence part. If you haven't seen the new emails then you wouldn't know if it was 0 evidence.

If he comes out and says they in fact, are significant, would you take his word?
 
B4s5C said:
If the tables were turned, you would gladly take his letter as a further signification that Trump should not be present.

If you have different standards for this, then you should understand that you are inherently biased.
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This is an incredibly terrible argument.
 
B4s5C said:
If the tables were turned, you would gladly take his letter as a further signification that Trump should not be present.

If you have different standards for this, then you should understand that you are inherently biased.
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So we're at that part where you bring up worthless, poorly thought out hypotheticals because you don't have an argument anymore. Cool. Maybe you should take a rest, you seem tired.
 
B4s5C said:
Then I respect that.

But I would have to argue against the 0 evidence part. If you haven't seen the new emails then you wouldn't know if it was 0 evidence.

If he comes out and says they in fact, are significant, would you take his word?
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Apparently, Comey himself hasn't seen the emails either. He's just signed off on allowing the investigation to proceed, and he did that the day before writing the letter. And that's the problem, it's a whole lot of nothing being blown up to be something.
 
B4s5C said:
Then I respect that.

But I would have to argue against the 0 evidence part. If you haven't seen the new emails then you wouldn't know if it was 0 evidence.

If he comes out and says they in fact, are significant, would you take his word?
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Probably; Certainly if he provided a couple examples. You need to have some pretty clear evidence to announce something this close to the election for any canidate. The possibility of criminality is not enough.

I say zero evidence, as it's apparent that Comey when he wrote the letter had no idea what was in the emails.

4Tran said:
Apparently, Comey himself hasn't seen the emails either. He's just signed off on allowing the investigation to proceed, and he did that the day before writing the letter. And that's the problem, it's a whole lot of nothing being blown up to be something.
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Or, this. lol
Comey is raising the alarm on the POSSIBILITY of wrongdoing.
I have a feeling that after this election is over you will find out about some Trump investigations that were underway for the last couple of months that were too early to announce.
 
JHoNNy1OoO said:
Going to bed now and still can't believe yesterday happened. Literally no new information other than "we're looking into something" which happens all the fucking time. God help us if Trump somehow wins this and then the FBI says "oops nothing was there".
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I like how Trump now respects the FBI again. Confirming that he'll only respect/believe them if they agree with him at all times.

People see that as an admirable trait and it scares the shit out of me.
 
Chumley said:
So we're at that part where you bring up worthless, poorly thought out hypotheticals because you don't have an argument anymore. Cool.
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You aren't providing any rhteoric besides you believing he is biased. I take extreme offense to how you are talking to me because I still take your opinion with respect and think about what you are saying. All I ask for is a thoughtful response in return. What I believe is there is an immediate reaction without much thought to this. I am voting for Hillary but I AM NOT calling the FBI Director corrupt or inept. Obama chose him and I trust his judgment over yours, any day of the fucking week.
 
B4s5C said:
You aren't providing any rhteoric besides you believing he is biased. I take extreme offense to how you are talking to me because I still take your opinion with respect and think about what you are saying. All I ask for is a thoughtful response in return. What I believe is there is an immediate reaction without much thought to this. I am voting for Hillary but I AM NOT calling the FBI Director corrupt or inept. Obama chose him and I trust his judgment over yours, any day of the fucking week.
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Hah! I'm pretty sure that Obama himself would can Comey if he didn't want to give that honor to Clinton!
 
B4s5C said:
You aren't providing any rhteoric besides you believing he is biased. I take extreme offense to how you are talking to me because I still take your opinion with respect and think about what you are saying. All I ask for is a thoughtful response in return. What I believe is there is an immediate reaction without much thought to this. I am voting for Hillary but I AM NOT calling the FBI Director corrupt or inept. Obama chose him and I trust his judgment over yours, any day of the fucking week.
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I'm sure Obama is also mystified at what the fuck Comey is doing here.
 
4Tran said:
Hah! I'm pretty sure that Obama himself would can Comey if he didn't want to give that honor to Clinton!
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In all probability, Clinton won't fire him on day one. Bad optics and will muddy her historic win.

Expect an investigation though.
 
Suikoguy said:
Probably; Certainly if he provided a couple examples. You need to have some pretty clear evidence to announce something this close to the election for any canidate. The possibility of criminality is not enough.

I say zero evidence, as it's apparent that Comey when he wrote the letter had no idea what was in the emails.
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Fair enough.

Thank you for iterating your point without devolving into insults.

Looking at what he did and how he did, it does appear that he was being transparent but not-transparent at the same time.

What that leaves me is with the question of did he do that intentionally to make others speculate or did he do that for another reason that we might not know?

From that, I am not sure. I will wait and still keep my vote for Clinton.
 
B4s5C said:
You aren't providing any rhteoric besides you believing he is biased. I take extreme offense to how you are talking to me because I still take your opinion with respect and think about what you are saying. All I ask for is a thoughtful response in return. What I believe is there is an immediate reaction without much thought to this. I am voting for Hillary but I AM NOT calling the FBI Director corrupt or inept. Obama chose him and I trust his judgment over yours, any day of the fucking week.
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It's been gone over extensively why I and others think Comey is trying to tip the election, and on countless news channels tonight. This covers it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_7dOPzb3aM
 
Nothing has happened right? Like that's still the situation? A quick drop and rebound once everyone realized that it's fucking nothing?

Let's talk about the real story with Vickileaks.
 
B4s5C said:
If he were investigating Trump, should he send the letter?
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Absolutely not. Making a spectacle out of content that he hadn't even reviewed yet would accomplish nothing other than providing legitimacy to Trump's accusations of the system being rigged against him.

The bottom line is when you have the following circumstances in place:

-he had no obligation to contact congress
-he knew there was no precedent for this being done before
-he had no idea what info is entailed, if it's even relevant
-he knew that releasing that statement as it was would likely cause misinterpretation

The only logical course of action was not to contact congress. But he still did, and we're supposed to believe that he willingly flourished something that even he wasn't sure about out of the goodness of his own heart?
 
B4s5C said:
Then I respect that.

But I would have to argue against the 0 evidence part. If you haven't seen the new emails then you wouldn't know if it was 0 evidence.

If he comes out and says they in fact, are significant, would you take his word?
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Comey hasnt even seen shit! He literally said they could be anything at all, from good to bad. They could be duplicates of emails they already have. Instead he intentionally muddied the waters, confused the fuck out of the media and gave Trump a good 72 hour news cycle over literally NOTHING.

This is the work of a political hack who wants to cause damage but is incapable of doing anything right.

B4s5C said:
If the tables were turned, you would gladly take his letter as a further signification that Trump should not be present.

If you have different standards for this, then you should understand that you are inherently biased.
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So your only argument against Comey's indisputable incompetence is that many of us would be ok with his incompetence if it was about Trump? So not only dont you have an argument as to why Comey isnt an unmitigated moron, but you have limp hypotheticals to distract from that point.

Sorry if he released a letter with nothing about Trump, he would be a moron for that too.
 
Suikoguy said:
In all probability, Clinton won't fire him on day one. Bad optics and will muddy her historic win.

Expect an investigation though.
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It would have been bad optics yesterday. Today, Comey gave her so much ammunition that she can kick his ass whenever she wants to.
 
Suikoguy said:
In all probability, Clinton won't fire him on day one. Bad optics and will muddy her historic win.

Expect an investigation though.
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I'm guessing he'll resign. I mean you can usually see the writing on the wall with things like this. I'm sure he already has prospects lined up.
 
Amir0x said:
He made his bed.

Every fucking expert in the field said his press conference where he slammed Clinton over and over only to say she isnt being indicted was literally without precedent. He used his platform back then to give Republicans a ready made attack ad for months. Only an idiot would think that was a good idea to do as FBI Director. It was partisan hackery, and everyone knew it.

Now he once again broke the unwritten FBI rule never to release political damaging reports 60 days or less out from election. And why? So he can announce he knows nothing, has seen nothing, but this device could be related to Hillarys email case.

Experts, Democrat and Republican alike once again say this is unprecedented, that it was offensively devoid of real info and Comey himself said he did not have to do it and admits it could be misconstrued politically. BECAUSE THAT WAS HIS POINT. Failing anything substantive yet wanting to make a swipe at Hillary, this festering incompetent turd chose to make LITERALLY NOTHING a story while giving morons just enough for their freakish imaginations to run wild about evil Hillary.

Comey is a fucking idiot incapable of doing his job appropriately or keeping his bias out if it. His career needs to be over, and i will fucking celebrate as he is removed from his post.

Plenty of human beings lose their jobs. If you suck at your job, you get fired. Welcome to the real world.
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Beyond that he's turned the FBI into a political football and has created a horrifying precedent for allowing congressional partisanship to influence FBI protocol and conduct in public.
 
Adaren said:
As far as I know, Comey hasn't seen the emails either.

It's literally no evidence.
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that's the thing, he hasn't seen anything, and yet he felt "obligated" to send a memo that any competent person would've known would be leaked to the world. (and be wildly misrepresented and speculated about)
 
Frustrated_me said:
Has it been learned how the FBI got word that Abedin had emails relating to the Hillary case?
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Other than Comey's letter basically stating the because Abedin is close to Clinton the emails are related, no. He also stated that the emails might just be duplicates of emails turned over by Abedin earlier.
 
When was the last time anyone gave a shit about the FBI? Thanks FBI! Thanks for selectively investigating our politicians because you made yourselves look foolish! Thanks for stopping all of those terror attacks like the Orlando shooting - oh wait. Thanks for stopping all of those crazy shootings like Newtown! And thanks for stopping all of those other "terror attacks" where you just basically framed people. Fuck my fourth amendment, right? Pleeeeeaaase fuck off.
 
rjinaz said:
I like how Trump now respects the FBI again. Confirming that he'll only respect/believe them if they agree with him at all times.

People see that as an admirable trait and it scares the shit out of me.
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This. He is even out there saying how maybe things aren't as rigged as he thought.


That is more terrifying than anything. That and that people cheer in response to it.


We have a fucking guy, who doesn't give a SHIT, about anything, not one god damn thing, as long as it is working in its favor.


"I'm losing? OH FUCK EVERYONE ITS ALL RIGGED ITS ALL BULLSHIT!!!"

"Wait things are looking better for me? EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND WORKS LIKE ITS SUPPOSED TO, I NOW LOVE AND RESPECT EVERYONE"



Even after it all, thats the most disqualifying shit for me.
 
B4s5C said:
What that leaves me is with the question of did he do that intentionally to make others speculate or did he do that for another reason that we might not know?
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Do you really think that Comey has some secret evidence that Clinton has committed a crime, while simultaneously saying she shouldn't be prosecuted for anything, while simultaneously telling his own employees that he hasn't even read the latest emails, while simultaneously using rhetoric that hurts her as much as possible without actually accusing her of anything?

We can speculate on Comey's motives, but one thing is for certain: Comey doesn't have evidence of anything.
 
Amir0x said:
Comey hasnt even seen shit! He literally said they could be anything at all, from good to bad. They could be duplicates of emails they already have. Instead he intentionally muddied the waters, confused the fuck out of the media and gave Drumpf a good 72 hour news cycle over literally NOTHING.

This is the work of a political hack who wants to cause damage but is incapable of doing anything right.



So your only argument against Comey's indisputable incompetence is that many of us would be ok with his incompetence if it was about Drumpf? So not only dont you have an argument as to why Comey isnt an unmitigated moron, but you have limp hypotheticals to distract from that point.

Sorry if he released a letter with nothing about Drumpf, he would be a moron for that too.
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Again, I believe you are responding out of your own bias by calling him a political hack. He is Obama's FBI Director. I can think outside of the box and try to understand that there may be other circumstances that I may be ignorant about that is directing his behavior. I am NOT going to decry him or call him a hack because what he did might lose Clinton's a point or two in national polls when she is already ahead by 10+. Its delusional to believe that this is what is going to sink the Clinton campaign and especially delusional that this belief comes from an Obama administration FBI director. No one risks their career and credibility over something so unsure and for a narcissist that many Republicans hate.
 
Biske said:
This. He is even out there saying how maybe things aren't as rigged as he thought.


That is more terrifying than anything. That and that people cheer in response to it.


We have a fucking guy, who doesn't give a SHIT, about anything, not one god damn thing, as long as it is working in its favor.


"I'm losing? OH FUCK EVERYONE ITS ALL RIGGED ITS ALL BULLSHIT!!!"

"Wait things are looking better for me? EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND WORKS LIKE ITS SUPPOSED TO, I NOW LOVE AND RESPECT EVERYONE"



Even after it all, thats the most disqualifying shit for me.
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Because it's very dictator-esque. Trump will not tolerate anybody disagreeing with him and as president he'll consider himself to be the ultimate authority that has ever lived with everybody being his to serve him. I'm not sure what all he can accomplish because we do have checks and balances in place, but by god, you know he'll try to silence those that don't agree with him.
 
Totally off topic, but I do wonder at what point it would be ok to influence the election like this. This "I don't know anything or have any new evidence, but I just wanted to make sure everyone knows that Hillary is totally a crook." is just dumbass bullshit that (IMO) should take his job.

But if it had been, "OK, we now have complete proof that Ted Cruz is not the Zodiac killer, and that Hillary was, and that she's been framing Ted for decades thinking there's no way you idiots would ever nominate Donald Trump." would that be ok? I have a feeling even that would be a bit unethical from the FBI.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
Wow crazy if true. Never thought the FBI would have been caught up and complicit in a conspiracy. I guess no person or organization is immune to taking bribes
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You can't be serious. This narrative that Comey has been wildly unfair and biased AGAINST Clinton this entire time is frankly ridiculous on its face.

You could just as easily argue the opposite. (e.g. http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-ally-aids-campaign-of-fbi-officials-wife-1477266114)

But I'm sure that's "nothing" or it's been "debunked", or something. Everything's fine! They investigated themselves, and cleared themselves of any wrongdoing! Nothing to see here.
 
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