I could have sworn he did comedy way better in 2001. Hell, even his return promo in 2011 was the best comedy he has done until today.
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I could have sworn he did comedy way better in 2001. Hell, even his return promo in 2011 was the best comedy he has done until today.
I agree Uber! Is Cena actually getting 450+ day championship run? I don't see that happening personally.
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God I wish they would just upload the rest of these so badly.
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God I wish they would just upload the rest of these so badly.
I really wish this was Hollywood Rock and he'd appear via satellite and send his stunt man in for matches.
UberTag
Member
He's got to beat CM Punk's record. Can't let that one stand. If Vince McMahon could, he'd put Cena in a time machine and make him the youngest world champion instead of Orton and have him go over everyone in the Attitude era and give him Taker's WrestleMania streak.
I just think that Cena's time to make that kind of run is over. I would hope Cena knows this as well. Ehh what you're saying rings true though, I hope Triple H can take over for Vince real soon.
Professor Beef
Banned
That would mean a face turn for Punk. And I don't think anyone wants that again. Unless you're a toolbox, of course.
UberTag
Member
All the more reason for Hacksaw to come back and work full-time.
He's a legend, perennial face, has two fun chants ("HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and "USA") and would give the WWE someone fresh they can job Cody to.
Is Vince dying? Because that's the only way Trips is "taking over" any time in the next 15 years or so.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Speak for yourself!
Perspicacity
Banned
I'd quit watching for real-real if Jim Duggan was back in a regular role.
Nah he can feud with someone else. Daniel Bryan or Brock or whoever. I don't care.
Gimme dat heel Rock.
UberTag
Member
See? That's another good reason to bring Duggan back. It would get more old school fans like you and me to stop watching the product.
I suppose Plan B would be to make The Great Khali and Hornswoggle the tag team champions and to put them over Rhodes Scholars, PTP and the Shield.
Your Rock is attitude era Rock, mine is modern day Hollywood Rock. Together we got The Rock covered.
How can there be any money in it? Cena'd be so stale by the middle of that run, he'd be driving even the little Jimmies away.
That's pretty much what I think too. He's already sooo stale at his current state, how could he possibly keep a championship run interesting?
UberTag
Member
Cena's already beyond stale and he just won the Royal Rumble and is main eventing WrestleMania.
If you ask me, modern day WWE jimmies and marks LIKE things to be stale. WHAT!
They don't want ANYTHING to change. WHAT!
They want the WWE to be one big never-ending series of Call of Duty games. WHAT!
Punk will win at WrestleMania just like when Orton beat both Triple H and Cena in that triple threat many years ago.
Wasn't the whole Hollywood Rock in 2003 happened because he was basically Cena at the end of his 2002 run that ended with Brock getting more cheers thens him during there Summerslam match. Then in 2003 he did a promo via Satelite and was booed again. So him coming back in 2003 as a heel was a great thing to do.
Now in 2012 he can't be a heel because the fans all love him again no matter what he does because he is a huge star now.
Now in 2012 he can't be a heel because the fans all love him again no matter what he does because he is a huge star now.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Cena's title run is going to be the thing of nightmares for the IWC, because every heel you like will get fed to him.
Bryan, check
Cesaro, check
Henry, check
Punk, check
Jericho, check
Bryan, check
Cesaro, check
Henry, check
Punk, check
Jericho, check
These promo packages are my favorites in years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cX3vxRmaIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuG1qq1qm0o
I especially like the 60 second TV cut. dat hype.
Edit: I personally think The Rock could easily get the people to boo him as a heel. Just tugging the "I'm better than you" strings is enough really. He won't though, because it's just a bad idea to be a heel when you have movies you want the people to go see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cX3vxRmaIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuG1qq1qm0o
I especially like the 60 second TV cut. dat hype.
Edit: I personally think The Rock could easily get the people to boo him as a heel. Just tugging the "I'm better than you" strings is enough really. He won't though, because it's just a bad idea to be a heel when you have movies you want the people to go see.
True but all he has to do is call the crowd fat and dumb and he will get boo'd surely?!
Add Ryback (who I can see turning heel eventually) to that list, give everyone two matches and you have a 12 month run.
I can't wait for the triple threat matches with any two of those wrestlers! That'll sure as shit grind my gears.
I don't even know if that would make the fans turn on Rock. Maybe if they paired him with Heyman and had Rock turn heel against the WWE. I could see Triple H vs Rock working to turn Rock heel since Triple H is universally liked by the fanbase and is also from the attitude era.
Oh wait, they already did that with Brock.
UberTag
Member
And when he eventually loses the title it'll be due to a cheap attack by the RAW Money in the Bank winner so Cena won't really be putting the guy he eventually loses the belt to over and they'll be regarded as "undeserving of their push".
(Although we'll all still get a chuckle due to the one kid on YouTube that gets recorded having an emotional breakdown because Cena lost.)
Nocturnowl
Member
Cena isn't any mere man so he'd be fine.
BillRiccio
Member
That would be a really cool way to turn him. He finally stops talking about overcoming odds and starts talking about being better then everyone. He realizes that he doesn't need the fans either because they never helped him win a match. He should also be paired with a hot piece of ass, I say bring back Maria. She smoking hot and her work in ROH has been one of the few bright spots lately. Case in point.
Look at dude in the first row staring at dat ass
UberTag
Member
What's wrong with just bringing back Nikki Bella to serve that role? They can make out in the ring. Cena doesn't neglect his woman (like all of the others) because she'll be on the road with him. It'll make D.Brine jealous. And on-camera relationships inevitably lead to nasty breakups. These are all good reasons to use her.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Cena turning heel at WM would make so much sense from every conceivable angle except WWE not wanting to give up his merchandising.
You could just completely rip off WM17 with Cena doing what he has to to win after failing last year, he'd get a massive heel reaction in NY and he'd be an incredible heel. It won't happen.
You could just completely rip off WM17 with Cena doing what he has to to win after failing last year, he'd get a massive heel reaction in NY and he'd be an incredible heel. It won't happen.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Professor Beef
Banned
Other top-level heels have still had merch sell while they were on top, right? I never bought that excuse for Cena.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I think it has to do more with Cena being their official "Make-A-Wish" guy. Don't really want him being the bad guy, do you?
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Cena is for kids though. I'm sure he could sell tshirts to adults as a heel but children are too stupid to cheer heels like us smarks
And this
Cena wouldn't sell merch as a heel, he would just be hated. Little Jimmy doesn't buy heel merch.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
God, imagine how great a Cena heel turn would be. He could beat the shit out of Rock and brag about how he ended his career to spite the people who booed him.
BillRiccio
Member
Good points, but Nikki is no Maria in the looks department and Maria is the best manger in wrestling besides "The Golden Boy" B Arthur
He's going to get boo'd out of the building no matter what. I'm thinking it will be akin Hogan turning heel at The Bash, except Cena will still be a face. The ring is going to be full of garbage and Cena is going to need a police escort to the back.
Cena heel turn is seven years too late.
Bret Hart said he could tell that Cena is going through what Bret did.
Something along the lines of "fans think he's stale, he's been the good guy for far too long, but he's genuinely a good guy which would make a heel turn hard for him. He would have to turn his backs on all the little kids that like him."
The bolded seemed to be the biggest reason why a heel turn can be hard for a babyface.
Something along the lines of "fans think he's stale, he's been the good guy for far too long, but he's genuinely a good guy which would make a heel turn hard for him. He would have to turn his backs on all the little kids that like him."
The bolded seemed to be the biggest reason why a heel turn can be hard for a babyface.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Still better than the alternative by a landslide.
I really don't hate Cena that much as a wrestler, I just hate his material and booking. I'm pretty sure he could really shine in a new role.
Dark Ninja
Member
Nice this will be my 3rd Summerslam in a row. Hopefully Punk is on the show though, at least the preshow
slightconfuse
Banned
Heel cena could sell some merch.
The only cena short I liked was the NES one
The only cena short I liked was the NES one
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Bret Hart is a mark for himself. It's unbelievable.
Kids could get over your ass turning heel, Bret
They don't seem to care about having in-ring bullies do promotional work for their anti-bullying campaign, so what's the difference?
The biggest problem with Cena turning heel is, the company has no one to take his place. When Hogan turned heel in WCW, they had guys like Sting to take his place. WWE has no one on Cena's level to take his place if he turns heel. I think Ryback is being groomed to potentially take Cena's place when he retires five or so years down the line, but he's not there yet.
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