One of them will be a pre-show match.
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One of them will be a pre-show match.
In this era, the pre-show is essentially part of the PPV.
Bluekaveli
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Shitty movie indeed
newdayrocks
Member
All three women's matches have had extensive storylines built around them, so it makes sense for them to all have matches.
No one complains about three men's watches on a PPV ...
And a haicut.
Dr Duncan Steel
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You put Shane over AJ come Mania, you're gonna hear AJ STYLES chants the night after Mania.
I'd say do it LMAO
Brian_FETO
Banned
All I want from Shane/Styles is another video package with Vince saying "if you think about it, Shane may be the greatest threat that Styles has ever faced"
Rousey Animu!
at this point she's the Yamcha of UFC
FallingEdge
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I heard that he is going to get a gimmick where his IQ is something like 160 and he has a wine vineyard.
I'd say Tao Pai Pai. Used to e feared but then became a joke character.
But will still dress and behave the same way, right?
Couldn't get to Z tier.
Or at least, the night after the night after Mania.
TarpitCarnivore
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This thread on Wreddit is cracking me up https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCir..._has_been_quietly_building_up_orton_vs_wyatt/
It feels more like a hindsight moment than actual story telling
It feels more like a hindsight moment than actual story telling
SallyIsNow
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AJ is the most over full time wrestler on both brands.
Into the Light
Banned
All the talent, and Shane is the best you can come up with, for a dude who is the top 3 finest wrestler alive today? Only WWE.
SallyIsNow
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Brian_FETO
Banned
Shoot: in 2006 I was stoked on Rey Mysterio winning the Rumble because he wore a mask and did cool lucha things
Not long after I would come to realize that he actually had a very limited set of lucha things and was actually not that fun to watch
Not long after I would come to realize that he actually had a very limited set of lucha things and was actually not that fun to watch
RVD is a guy who, in hindsight, I have no idea why I liked. He didn't have good mic skills. His move set was surprisingly limited. And he didn't have much of a character outside of the R V D taunt. But he did a neat frog splash and had that move where he kicked a chair into a guys face.
For context - my only exposure to RVD is WWE
Brian_FETO
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I still consider RVD to be a favorite wrassler
Even if he was limited he was fun to watch. Especially when you get into the ECW stuff with Jerry Lynn
I think it's a similar think to Rey where in comparison to everyone else on the roster it's some hot shit, then you see dudes outside of WWE (or currently on the roster in modern times) that completely outclass them. Rey is worse because I think his matches started revolving entirely around the 619 which was just not fun to watch
The high flying stuff is what got me into wrestling in the first place so I'll always have a bias for flippy shit.
Even if he was limited he was fun to watch. Especially when you get into the ECW stuff with Jerry Lynn
I think it's a similar think to Rey where in comparison to everyone else on the roster it's some hot shit, then you see dudes outside of WWE (or currently on the roster in modern times) that completely outclass them. Rey is worse because I think his matches started revolving entirely around the 619 which was just not fun to watch
The high flying stuff is what got me into wrestling in the first place so I'll always have a bias for flippy shit.
spindashing
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SomewhatGroovy
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Why, are they going to be standing around changing the antennas off the back of their cars on a side of a freeway?
Come on, Kaladin.
Brian_FETO
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The Lucha Underground stuff has really highlighted this. Dude can work some insane matches with the best of them
WCW Cruiserweights are funny. They're the ones that really push the whole kick out of other people's finishers, use other people's big spots as set up moves mainstream, and everyone loved it so it became the indie style. I'm watching some of these matches with multiple avalanche power bombs, Tombstones, running powerbombs, Hurricanranas, etc, etc, and they don't end until someone does their super duper finisher off of the top.
Bluekaveli
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If Cornette isn't inducting them, I swear.
They're guilty of a lot of things (normalizing what should be finishers, constant high spots, flips, etc...) but they never really kicked out of each other's finishers. Usually once someone hit their finisher that was the end of the match.
Bluekaveli
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SomewhatGroovy
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who normalized this thing that we see often today where multiple finishers are needed to put a guy down or where we see them kick out of finishers like nothing to it?
I was getting caught up on NXT , which I havent watched since september, and I was triggered by Nakamura having to repeatedly hit Joe with his finisher twice just to lay the dude down.
and then you have the AJ Styles and Cena stuff. Ugh
I bet Arn Anderson inducts the Rock n Roll Express.
It's either him or Jerry Lawler, but Lawler typically hosts so he can't induct I guess.
I want to say ECW, but in the mainstream it was probably those Austin/Rock matches.
It's either him or Jerry Lawler, but Lawler typically hosts so he can't induct I guess.
I want to say ECW, but in the mainstream it was probably those Austin/Rock matches.
Rock Austin WM X-7 is the usual suspect, though there have been other historic no sellers like Warrior/Macho Man where he drops the elbow seven times and can't keep him down.
Rockandrollclown
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I'm sure it didn't start it, but my earliest memory of finisher spam was Rock vs Austin WM matches. Seemed like they felt like they needed to up the finisher count every match to make it better. I really don't mind it when its exclusive to your biggest show of the year, but finishers don't even put away people on Raw anymore.
SallyIsNow
Banned
I forget when, but I remember an ECW PPV where RVD cuts a money promo after wrestling Lance Storm.
A battle between arguably the two biggest wrestling stars of all time at the biggest show of the year is one of the few times where kicking out of finishers makes sense.
Of course, over time, people realized "If we kick out of finishers, we'll get pops like Rock vs Austin!"
and now finishers aren't finishers
Of course, over time, people realized "If we kick out of finishers, we'll get pops like Rock vs Austin!"
and now finishers aren't finishers
Brian_FETO
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Is that the one where he says he can get more money somewhere else? That's the only one coming to mind
SomewhatGroovy
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I can see that, yeah.
Yep, people need to go back to that, or agree to super finishers that no one kicks out of like the Punt, the 3D, Burning Hammer, top rope versions of your regular finisher, whatever.
People always kick out of the bomya,
sf2fanatic
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Plz. You'll salute that person you mark
The issue is they weren't only kicking out in their Mania matches.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
I wonder how you go back to one finisher being the end of the match? It'd be better for the long haul, but it seems like it would be jarring in the short term. I mean Styles kicked out of what 4 AAs then it took the super AA to win?