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February Wrasslin' |OT| Observe THIS, Brother!
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PHOENIXZERO
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I was a Lightning Kid fan back in the day from when I could watch GWF.
I mean look at this comic book clerk
Dusty was also over six feet tall and had a presence and natural charisma Owens lacks.
Conrad Link
Member
Poor Owens, I'm sure he is glad to be a former champ at all but man talk about having been given such a shit run. 
HE'S THE COWARDLY HEEL! GET IT???? They couldn't even make him look mildly threatening, he looked stronger before he had the f**king title. :|
Stuck in an endless black hole that is Raw booking. All roads have to lead to Reigns zzzzzzzzz.
They don't even explain the HHH thing, why did he help him win? Just cause he hated Seth-kun? Have Owens and HHH ever had any sort of interaction since he won the damn thing?
Basically the Owens World Milkyway Title run was purely a cog in a higher up the card story line between two other 'more important' (HHH vs Seth) wrestlers? Wow.
Thanks man, please leave the title with Dadberg on your way out. That stupid match between him and Bork didn't need a belt, people were already interested in it. >_>
Poor Owens. Deserved much better.
HE'S THE COWARDLY HEEL! GET IT???? They couldn't even make him look mildly threatening, he looked stronger before he had the f**king title. :|
Stuck in an endless black hole that is Raw booking. All roads have to lead to Reigns zzzzzzzzz.
They don't even explain the HHH thing, why did he help him win? Just cause he hated Seth-kun? Have Owens and HHH ever had any sort of interaction since he won the damn thing?
Basically the Owens World Milkyway Title run was purely a cog in a higher up the card story line between two other 'more important' (HHH vs Seth) wrestlers? Wow.
Thanks man, please leave the title with Dadberg on your way out. That stupid match between him and Bork didn't need a belt, people were already interested in it. >_>
Poor Owens.
Deserved much better.
avengers23
Banned
NOAH: "Well we've had a great start to the year, shaking up our heavyweight division, fully getting behind our new ace, putting on great shows with a unique match style. How should we follow this up?
We should partner with TNA!"
Yeah. Any excitement for NOAH The REBORN is now dead, which works out great for me because barely have time for AJPW and BJW as it is.
NOAH working with Dove Pro and building its own roster seemed like the right direction. Instead, we probably get Mike Bennett vs. Nakajima or some shit. At least the NOAH cameramen can perv out on Maria.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
In NJPW the titles are a big deal so the secondary Intercontinental title can headline an event, especially when it's held by someone like Naito, who is the most popular guy in the company.
Road to...shows are setups for the big shows, in this case the 11th show which is "The New Beginning in Osaka".
HazySaiyan
Banned
Yes the show on the 11th is the PPV, New Beginning is two shows, the one in Sapporo last weekend and the one in Osaka this weekend.
'Road To' shows are basically glorified house shows but they're designed to help build hype for the main shows.
All "Road To" shows are basically house shows yeah, they're in preparation for the bigger events (or ppvs if you want to call them that) so barely anything relevant storyline wise ever happens on them, some of these shows have stronger/more interesting cards than others tho (just like today's) so they are still worth watching
And yes, the show on the 11th could be considered a ppv
My absolutely unrealistic dreams of a Nakajima/Miyahara AJPW Sumo Hall main event are dead dead dead.
As you say, it does free up a slot in the watching rotation at least.
It's more or less a house show. NJPW tours generally have two big "PPV" events, headlined by the World and IC titles. This Road to Show is for the event this weekend, with Naito/Elgin, Dragon Lee/Takahahi and Shibata/Ospreay as the big matches.
avengers23
Banned
Also, I chuckled at the promo picture for PROGRESS's Super Strong Style 16 at the WrestleMania weekend shows that had Bate, Dunne, and Seven on it because you know they're getting yanked. Advertising them in matches that get streamed seems almost like false advertising at this point: http://twitter.com/ThisIs_Progress/status/828896560591286272
British Monsoon
Member
The SSS16 isn't at Mania weekend, it's in London
Also, I think it's safe to presume that PROGRESS have an understanding with WWE. None of the WWE UK guys were pulled from the last chapter show, in spite of it being streamed, and I doubt PROGRESS would book those guys for their big US debut show if there was a big chance of WWE removing them. Bear in mind that WWE have had no problem pulling guys from other indies, but when they pulled them from PROGRESS they sent Tommy End and Balor as replacements - other indies aren't getting that sort of special treatment.
Also, I think it's safe to presume that PROGRESS have an understanding with WWE. None of the WWE UK guys were pulled from the last chapter show, in spite of it being streamed, and I doubt PROGRESS would book those guys for their big US debut show if there was a big chance of WWE removing them. Bear in mind that WWE have had no problem pulling guys from other indies, but when they pulled them from PROGRESS they sent Tommy End and Balor as replacements - other indies aren't getting that sort of special treatment.
The show is on friday so I think there's still chance it happens. If WWE fucking does it again and they pull them it'll be the ultimate scumbag move
The SSS16 isn't at Mania weekend, it's in London
Also, I think it's safe to presume that PROGRESS have an understanding with WWE. None of the WWE UK guys were pulled from the last chapter show, in spite of it being streamed, and I doubt PROGRESS would book those guys for their big US debut show if there was a big chance of WWE removing them. Bear in mind that WWE have had no problem pulling guys from other indies, but when they pulled them from PROGRESS they sent Tommy End and Balor as replacements - other indies aren't getting that sort of special treatment.
It's basically what the rumor about WWE promising to be nice with Evolve if they give up on Floslam means. WWE will always get what they want so in their eyes it's either cooperate and get rewarded or refuse to, and they'll just screw you
FlammableD
Banned
HHH must have been pissed about Havoc kicking out lol
FlammableD
Banned
tbf at least they did a 2.9 kickout rather than the indy standard kick out of the pedigree at 1
British Monsoon
Member
What's interesting to me is that (as per the commentary last EVOLVE weekend) FloSlam/WWN seem to think they're going to be streaming the PROGRESS Mania weekend show, but if they're using WWE UK guys that clearly can't be the case.
Reporting for duty.
They'll likely be pulled off to go to Mania anyway. Gotta have an appearance by the UK champ to wave!
avengers23
Banned
WWNLive has hyped up the American Progress shows as part of its More Than Mania weekend shows since last year, so it was probably planned as a part of its overall streaming package that weekend.
Whether it'll happen or happen with the WWEUK folks is another question.
:')Give him some time. He probably didn't erase all NFL related viewing history from his youtube homepage and swear off Twitter for the next two months like I have. Though I may be able to swallow sadness easier than him. Hard to close your heart off to your team losing the big one like that. Takes practice. I could teach him if he's interested.
Until then...
Oh it is confirmed they will show up during WM weekend, but I don't think they'll pull them from a PROGRESS card, and they really have no excuse since the show is on friday
I would encourage everyone in the thread to check out Takehiro Yamamura vs Big R Shimizu and the VerserK vs Naruki Doi, Ben-K, Big R Shimizu, Takehiro Yamamura match from the latest Dragon Gate show (2/2 Truth Gate).Especially the Big R match, legitimate 4 + star match, no foolin.
BUT SERIOUSLY, PUNCH??? PUNCH AHAHAHAH
British Monsoon
Member
Worst DG reveal ever, also makes NO FUCKING SENSE. Seriously, why would
Punch go back to VerserK after Shingo and co. treated him like complete shit
Also, did you not enjoy the YAMATO vs BxB match? Probably my favourite title match of YAMATO's run so far, thought they told an excellent story.
Poor Owens, I'm sure he is glad to be a former champ at all but man talk about having been given such a shit run.
HE'S THE COWARDLY HEEL! GET IT???? They couldn't even make him look mildly threatening, he looked stronger before he had the f**king title. :|
Stuck in an endless black hole that is Raw booking. All roads have to lead to Reigns zzzzzzzzz.
They don't even explain the HHH thing, why did he help him win? Just cause he hated Seth-kun? Have Owens and HHH ever had any sort of interaction since he won the damn thing?
Basically the Owens World Milkyway Title run was purely a cog in a higher up the card story line between two other 'more important' (HHH vs Seth) wrestlers? Wow.
Thanks man, please leave the title with Dadberg on your way out. That stupid match between him and Bork didn't need a belt, people were already interested in it. >_>
Poor Owens.
Come on come on. I said it and i'll say it again, Smark whining about Owens is always overdone.
_He's been booked as a legit threat actually, with a legit chance of win, even before shenanigans, in every one of his matches. People always remember what they want.
_The guy has been on RAW since May of 2015. He's been 2x IC champ in the first year, then RAW champ after 15 month there, and hold the title for at least 7 month. Also he's been in every ppv since his debut.
I know sometimes it's wrestling and you're booked like an underdog heel (that's what he is actually) but still, he's pushed more than 95% wrestlers could say in WWE history.
excelsiorlef
Member
He also gets on average 2 to 3 promo spots on Raw per week
The SSS16 isn't at Mania weekend, it's in London
Also, I think it's safe to presume that PROGRESS have an understanding with WWE. None of the WWE UK guys were pulled from the last chapter show, in spite of it being streamed, and I doubt PROGRESS would book those guys for their big US debut show if there was a big chance of WWE removing them. Bear in mind that WWE have had no problem pulling guys from other indies, but when they pulled them from PROGRESS they sent Tommy End and Balor as replacements - other indies aren't getting that sort of special treatment.
Dunne lost the OTT title after a card change over the weekend and it was treated like he is finishing up his remaining date with the company. Also word went out that OTT is now shying away from WWE and trying to establish a relationship with Rev Pro and with that, New Japan. That explains The Elite coming in for OTT's biggest show yet in April.
shanafan
Member
You wish injuries on people?
It HAS to be the seeds of some sort of unit implosion. Otherwise it makes absolutely zero sense. I see Shingo just getting pissed again and trying to kick him out and then ??? happens. idk definitely the most bizarre decision I've seen in DG since I started watching
The title match was great, I just didn't mention it in my post because uh, I didn't. That was the first Hulk singles match I've really seen and I was pleasantly surprised. I know Hulk is pretty broken down injuries wise but I hope he can keep up that level of performance in the tag with Kzy. If they are going to keep Tribe around, they should probably have them win the Twin Gate at least.
I would rather Reigns get injured then Seth.
excelsiorlef
Member
If Rollins can make it back in time for Mania the injury is totally the best way this story could have gone.
Sucks that it is a real injury
Sucks that it is a real injury
Kind of weird in a dark sense how WWE got a second chance to make Seth a big babyface because of an injury.
shanafan
Member
Sorry, I don't want to wish injuries on anyone in the sport, no matter who they are.
The complains about Owens title reign are the same complains that everyone made about Seth title reign
Both were chicken heels, always cheating and (almost) never winning clean, both worked for HHH and both are just part on a bigger storyline (Roman vs Authority in the past and Seth vs Authority now)
So the problem is not the wrestler, but the terrible Raw booking. Brock only had a good run with the belt in 2014 because he was a part-timer
Both were chicken heels, always cheating and (almost) never winning clean, both worked for HHH and both are just part on a bigger storyline (Roman vs Authority in the past and Seth vs Authority now)
So the problem is not the wrestler, but the terrible Raw booking. Brock only had a good run with the belt in 2014 because he was a part-timer
RAW has booked heels with belts like shit for ages. But that's because Reigns has to be the big dog.
StWilson85
Member
There's literally 0 chance any of them get pulled from Progress' show before Mania.
excelsiorlef
Member
Yep.
funkystudent
Member
Someone needs to count the amount of times Roman has been slammed through or speared someone through the barricade
British Monsoon
Member
Yeah, could definitely see them getting the Twin Gate belts sooner rather than later - would've preferred the last title change didn't happen tbh, so we'd get Susumu & Kagetora vs BxB & Kzy.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
The same night he cut a heel promo and hhh cut a face promo too lol
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Not cool, man. Reigns isn't my favorite either but these guys go out and perform so you can be entertained. It's not Roman's fault they want him pushed to the moon.
Kk, I would rather Reigns gets banned from snorting coke then Orton.