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February Wrasslin' |OT| Royal Reignble Fallout. NO HOLDS BARRED, SMARKS!

kama

Member
So I decided to give the ROH ringside membership a try, and what better way to jump into a promotion you're not familiar with than a recap episode of the previous year, right?

But the first match they show already makes me cringe. This can't be good for your health:
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I know what happened to Yoshitatsu and that british indy wrestler, but I can't see Roderick Strong walking away from this one unscathed. Also, at the beginning of the episode there was an ad for a "Health Alert Hotline". Irony?
 

imBask

Banned
I can't wait to see Roman Reigns get a hot tag and superman punch everyone for the win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JavyOO7

Member
According to several readers in the Denver area, WWE sent out an email hyping an 8 man tag team match for Raw tonight, featuring John Cena, Dean Ambrose, Roman Reigns, and Daniel Bryan vs. Kane, Big Show, Seth Rollins and Bray Wyatt.

lol!

That does seem like a dark match main event, to be honest.
 

Anth0ny

Member
According to several readers in the Denver area, WWE sent out an email hyping an 8 man tag team match for Raw tonight, featuring John Cena, Dean Ambrose, Roman Reigns, and Daniel Bryan vs. Kane, Big Show, Seth Rollins and Bray Wyatt.

lol!

prediction: bryan somehow finds himself getting his ass beat, probably by kane. reigns handles big show and comes in to save his little buddy daniel bryan from the big bad kane. he pins kane and bryan holds up reigns' arm in victory, as the show goes off the air.
 
Do they still do the Raw post-shows? I thought they stopped the dark match main events because they interfered with them.

They eventually moved those shows to the studio instead.

My town used to get dark match main events advertised but the three times I went they never had the match.
 

somedevil

Member
According to several readers in the Denver area, WWE sent out an email hyping an 8 man tag team match for Raw tonight, featuring John Cena, Dean Ambrose, Roman Reigns, and Daniel Bryan vs. Kane, Big Show, Seth Rollins and Bray Wyatt.

lol!

Sounds like an advertised dark match to me. Most of them are tags like that.
 

Kaladin

Member
Vince Russo interview with Wrestle Talk TV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuvLMGQ3QQc

Russo on Dixie Carter hiring Hogan and Bischoff:

"Everything falls fully on the shoulder of Dixie Carter. There was a time when I was writing for Jeff [Jarrett]. Literally overnight, this Karen Angle/Kurt Angle/Jeff Jarrett thing blows up. I was on vacation and get an absolute call from Dixie out of panic 'Jeff's being sent home. We need you to write our television'. At that point, it was just me and Matt Conway. From a financial point-of-view, the best thing for the company at the time is we need to build this younger talent. Dixie kept trying to bring in the big names. TNA didn't have a lot of money. So, I knew we had to start developing the homegrown talent: AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Eric Young, Bobby Roode - all those guys. Literally, for two months, that was all we were doing.

Dixie never told me about Eric and Hulk. While I'm writing and trying to get the company where it needs to be, behind my back, she was negotiating with Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan. She had every right to do that. It's her company. But I don't think she should have did it the way she did. We are going in this direction. You're bringing in Hogan and Bischoff. I could have told you that they weren't going to go in that direction. They were immediately going to take a left turn, call this guy, this guy, this guy, bring them all in and all your homegrown talent will be sitting at the back of the bus. I could have told you that from the get-go. She never told me about Hogan and Bischoff until they were hired. I said 'Okay, it's your company'.

Sure enough, in they come. We were going this way. It was a sharp left to the point where Eric Bischoff basically saying in a creative meeting 'TNA did not exist before we came here. Everything you've done never even happened before we came here. TNA starts today' and I just sat back and thought 'Okay, really? The seven years that everybody's been busting their butts here with sweat and giving their blood. None of that mattered? Okay, Eric? What do you want to do?'"

Russo's role in TNA 2010 when Hogan and Bischoff were there:

"It was pitched to me at the beginning that 'Okay Vince. You're head of creative. Your job doesn't change. Eric is going to be a part of creative with the storylines concerning Hulk.' I said, 'Okay, no problem'. All of a sudden, Eric is sitting in for the entire creative sessions. All of a sudden, Eric is part of the creative team. Never told to me by Dixie Carter. It just happened. It was myself, Eric Bischoff, Ed Ferrara and Matt Conway at the time."

Russo on Bischoff possibly being superior to him in the creative meetings:

"I didn't think he was superior to me. I knew that we had two different ideas of where the company needed to go. I knew that and I knew that was going to be an issue and a problem. I think it was."

Russo on whether Hogan or Bischoff were good or bad for TNA:

"I think they were a bad thing and I'll tell you why. And it has nothing to do with Hogan and Bischoff. If anyone were to take a pot-shot at Hogan and Bischoff and say 'Hogan and Bischoff killed TNA', it would be Vince Russo to repay all the people that told me I killed WCW. That was not the case at all. When Hulk and Eric came into the company, they really thought they were going to turn the company around. They came from WCW when they had an endless bank account. I tried to explain to Eric early on that 'You're not going to be able to do the things you want to do'

...When you're working for WWE and TNA, you're working for two different companies based on finances alone. Here's a perfect example: when we were doing the WCW invasion [by WWF], for the hell of it, I wrote on the show format 'DX drives rocket launcher up to [WCW] building' never in a million years thinking they would get a rocket launcher. I wrote that to entertain myself to see what the prop guys come up with. Next thing I know, DX is driving up in a rocket launcher. We bought a $50,000 sports car to fill up with cement. That stuff makes good TV. If you don't understand that and don't know the difference between WWE and TNA, and expect ratings to be the same or close, you're absolutely out of your mind.

Eric and Hulk didn't know TNA and felt they could come in and turn the company around. They worked as hard as everybody. They were in the trenches and were really trying. In order to afford them, because TNA didn't have a lot of money. Money had to come from other departments. All of a sudden, you have Hogan and Bischoff which is great. Now you don't have money to promote, advertise, brand because you used that money to pay for their salaries. At the end of the day, it's a catch-22. What good is it to have those guys if you don't have the money to promote that they are a part of the company?"

This week's was about TNA, next week is apparently the first time Russo has ever done an interview where he answers for his role in the death of WCW.
 

Kaladin

Member
So I decided to give the ROH ringside membership a try, and what better way to jump into a promotion you're not familiar with than a recap episode of the previous year, right?

But the first match they show already makes me cringe. This can't be good for your health:
lcqYD4M.gif


I know what happened to Yoshitatsu and that british indy wrestler, but I can't see Roderick Strong walking away from this one unscathed. Also, at the beginning of the episode there was an ad for a "Health Alert Hotline". Irony?

If I remember correctly, I think that move put Roderick out for a while.
 

kama

Member
If I remember correctly, I think that move put Roderick out for a while.

Really, him too? Then I don't understand why they put that in a best-of episode.

'Hey folks, remember how awesome 2014 was? No? Well here's a video of someone getting their neck broken!'
 
When Flair came from WCW to WWF he brought the NWA belt with him and promptly discarded it once he won the WWF title didnt he?

Thats why I asked. My access to WWF/WCW for most of late 80's to mid 90's was limited to the occasional show at a friends house. I only really got to start watching regularly maybe a year or two before the whole corporate ministry thing happened.
 
A man who has a vested interest in his ties with WWE interviewing WWE's EVP of Talent and Live Events on WWE's own Network -- I can't wait to hear them talk about how shitty WWE is.
 

Hasney

Member
A man who has a vested interest in his ties with WWE interviewing WWE's EVP of Talent and Live Events on WWE's own Network -- I can't wait to hear them talk about how shitty WWE is.

Good point.

To replace the missing content, here's Kane going for the intercontinental championship in a special bonus match instead.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I hope Mr. H's at least lets Austin say wrestling and wrestlers without giving him the stink eye like Vince did.

It would be very strange if a man whose favorite wrestlers are Harley Race and Ric Flair got upset at someone using the term 'wrestler'
 
That's the best possible way to get something interesting out of Roman. Have him hate everybody due to the boos he's getting.

Plus if you're gonna book most of the current faces badly anyways why the hell not? Turn him into an unpredictable character a la SCSA (as in he'd be helping folks one minute and handing out stunners to the same people the next rather than the rest of his gimmick).
 

Heel

Member
A preview of Stone Cold Steven's hard-hitting journalism: "Dig this, Hunter. What about that See-zaro cat? That kid is like a duck to water out there. Whatchu thinkin' on him?"
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
MMA friends, how does Chuck Lidell feel about Roman Reigns claiming the superman punch as his invention? Can I get a Juggernaught vs Iceman match at Wrestlemania 32?
 
A preview of Stone Cold Steven's hard-hitting journalism: "Dig this, Hunter. What about that See-zaro cat? That kid is like a duck to water out there. Whatchu thinkin' on him?"

Lol. Sounds like every Stone cold podcast lol. You nailed it. man.

I laughed.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
A preview of Stone Cold Steven's hard-hitting journalism: "Dig this, Hunter. What about that See-zaro cat? That kid is like a duck to water out there. Whatchu thinkin' on him?"

Uncanny...It's like I've heard it before.
 
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