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[Majanew]

Yeah i can't imagine why they would want to bring back one of the best games in the xbox's line up.

It sucked and sold like shit. Never have I seen Phantom Dust being brought up when people begged MS for the return of IP's. Maybe I just blocked the name out because the first one was garbage and I couldn't wrap my mind around it? Hmmm.

Conker, MS. CONKER. Not that Project Spark slap in the face, either. Then PD wouldn't be such a weird decision since you were reviving other IP's. Maybe next E3? lol... :'(

 

[Liamc723]

Never have I seen Phantom Dust being brought up when people begged MS for the return of IP's.

You're blind then, many people asked for it.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

I understand, I just thought I'd share what Nintendo's overall release pipeline is, since you said you're not that familiar.

I understand, that's what I thanked you for. Again, it's a noble effort, and there was a time when I used to update my own spreadsheets as well, being of a slightly OC nature, but I've come to the conclusion that it's really futile.

A game so good they forgot to release it in Europe?

Yes, kind of like Demon's Souls.

 

[Huff]

They have a comparable about of games to the other publishers, but their stable of first party developers doesn't seem to be in any better shape than it was in the past

 

[Orca]

It sucked and sold like shit. Never have I seen Phantom Dust being brought up when people begged MS for the return of IP's. Maybe I just blocked the name out because the first one was garbage and I couldn't wrap my mind around it? Hmmm.

Conker, MS. CONKER. Not that Project Spark slap in the face, either. Then PD wouldn't be such a weird decision since you were reviving other IP's. Maybe next E3? lol... :'(

Begging for an avatar quote is no way to go through life.

 

[KORNdoggy]

Yes, kind of like Demon's Souls.

You mean the same demon's souls that was released in europe? Weird comparison is weird. Lol.

 

[Jinko]

Fable is about the only thing I am slightly interested in as far as 1st party goes.

There are a few exclusives they have which look decent but still not enough for me to want an XBO.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

You mean the same demon's souls that was released in europe? Weird comparison is weird. Lol.

Both those games were funded by platform holders, published by them in Japan, and then they decided they didn't want to publish them in the rest of the world. I think it's a very apt comparison, as you were seemingly using it to question Phantom Dust's quality. The game was published in the US by a third party, just like Demon's Souls, but nobody picked up the publishing rights for Europe, probably because Xbox has already been abandoned by that point, and it was never a big deal in Europe in the first place.

 

[TheFatOne]

The only two games I'm interested in are scalebound and crackdown. Since both of those games are coming out in 2016 no I don't feel good about MS first party studios.

 

[bidguy]

yeah a mention of gears would have been nice, maybe some artwork but it was fine

 

[Xav]

You're blind then, many people asked for it.

You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge regarding the original Xbox since I never owned one. As an outsider looking on, I'm pretty sure everyone wanted a sequel to this game much more than Phantom Dust.

I honestly don't remember anyone ever asking for a return of Phantom Dust. Maybe it's because it wasn't released here in Europe.

 

[Liamc723]

You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge regarding the original Xbox since I never owned one. As an outsider looking on, I'm pretty sure everyone wanted a sequel to this game much more than Phantom Dust.

I honestly don't remember anyone ever asking for a return of Phantom Dust. Maybe it's because it wasn't released here in Europe.

Many people wanted both Phantom Dust and Crimson Skies to return, among others. It certainly was not a case of nobody asked for Phantom Dust, because they did.

 

[p3tran]

There's two Halo games in the works, another first-party studio got pulled off another project to work on Gears and PG are working on Forza:Horizon while T10 is probably working on Forza 6. Rare is doing Fable.

I'd call that a pretty familiar cycle, yes.
I never said that's all they are making, but they are clearly keen on continuing the trend, wouldn't you agree?

so, let me get this straight....

you would prefer if turn10 did not do a forza motorsport, but lets say a ...try into jrpg. right?
and 343, they should forget about halo, and try a cloud-based inovative card game instead.
and how about that company that ms founded just to work for the gears of war license they just bought, how about they scrap gears of war and work on something breakthrough for the kinect instead. oh yeah!

I guess that would be pretty ...unfamiliar, per the words you used.
but is there any reason to complain that this idiocy is not happening?

I mean, are you complaining because polyphony may be doing yet another gran turismo? god forbid that naughty dog would do a last of us, let alone an uncharted! right?
and bets are open that santa monica is not doing a god of war too.



ON TOP of the above, they have various stuff coming. in my book, thats is not bad. I'd say its good.

edit:

I honestly don't remember anyone ever asking for a return of Phantom Dust. Maybe it's because it wasn't released here in Europe.

I for one have been asking for about ...10 years? around that.
Phantom Dust along with DeathRow!! and of course Crackdown from the last console..

Phantom Dust is going to be fuckin'awesome!!

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge regarding the original Xbox since I never owned one. As an outsider looking on, I'm pretty sure everyone wanted a sequel to this game much more than Phantom Dust.

I honestly don't remember anyone ever asking for a return of Phantom Dust. Maybe it's because it wasn't released here in Europe.

While Crimson Skies would be sweet as well, yes, people were actually asking for Phantom Dust:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=691697
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=832981
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=726619
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=824173
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=831064

 

[Silky]

You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge regarding the original Xbox since I never owned one. As an outsider looking on, I'm pretty sure everyone wanted a sequel to this game much more than Phantom Dust.

I honestly don't remember anyone ever asking for a return of Phantom Dust. Maybe it's because it wasn't released here in Europe.

Crimson Skies did get a sequel/spiritual successor. Snoopy Flying Ace is out right now.

 

[KORNdoggy]

Both those games were funded by platform holders, published by them in Japan, and then they decided they didn't want to publish them in the rest of the world. I think it's a very apt comparison, as you were seemingly using it to question Phantom Dust's quality. The game was published in the US by a third party, just like Demon's Souls, but nobody picked up the publishing rights for Europe, probably because Xbox has already been abandoned by that point, and it was never a big deal in Europe in the first place.

My questioning of the games quality wasn't based on the idea the platform holder never published it. More the fact the game never saw the light of day in the entirely of europe. Demon's souls did, sony might not have seen the greatness, but someone did. Clearly not the case for phantom dust...it must have been awesome!

 

[Salex_]

Them revealing 3 CG trailers for 2016 retail games makes me think they used their 12 months of announcements at E3 again. We'll probably slowly get footage and information of all the games they announced throughout events and random articles. Maybe they hired more developers for 2015 games? Although, I think we would have heard about them at E3 to replace the CG trailers we got this year.

Overall, I think they could do much better. You always hear about the "warchest" but they aren't really taking advantage of it. I expect them to have more or as the same amount of exclusives as Nintendo and Sony does across their consoles/handhelds (and Sony's PC titles). They've only had to support one hardware for awhile now.

I'm interested in seeing what Rare is going to do next, learning more about Scalebound, and Phantom Dust (never played the first one but the concept seems cool). I'll probably have to wait until E3 2015 for those

EDIT: What happened to their "secret studios"? I thought we'd hear about LXP at E3.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

My questioning of the games quality wasn't based on the idea the platform holder never published it. More the fact the game never saw the light of day in the entirely of europe. Demon's souls did, sony might not have seen the greatness, but someone did. Clearly not the case for phantom dust...it must have been awesome!

Most likely they didn't think it would sell enough to justify bringing it over. That doesn't have anything to do with quality though.

 

[old]

Not really. Forza looked nice.

I'm not too excited for the Halo collection. Never liked the games to begin with and not looking forward to a game where the player base will be split amongst 3 games (maybe 4? are they adding online to Halo 1?).

The rest didn't spark any interest.

 

[dead souls]

Nope, not at all. Since multi-plats will be better on PS4 I have basically no reason to ever buy an Xbox One.

 

[KORNdoggy]

so, let me get this straight....

you would prefer if turn10 did not do a forza motorsport, but lets say a ...try into jrpg. right?
and 343, they should forget about halo, and try a cloud-based inovative card game instead.
and how about that company that ms founded just to work for the gears of war license they just bought, how about they scrap gears of war and work on something breakthrough for the kinect instead. oh yeah!

Using shitty examples doesn't really make your argument any better.

How about turn 10 working on a new PGR...break up the forza monotony.
How about 343 working on a new FPS IP....break up the halo monotony
How about black tust working on a new third person action game IP....break up the gears of war monotony

See what we're getting at now? MS have old IP's under their belt and competent developers stuck churning out the same games over and over. Surely even you can't be so against them making something new? Something different? And no, something new and different does't mean "a cloud based card game" or "a racing game developer making a JRPG" but i think your knew that anyway.

 

[SierraOne]

It's strangely ironic that the game I am most excited for this generation is a game I played back in 2004. But the sheer thought of being able to relive the glory days of my favorite console multiplayer game of all time just makes me giddy as a school child. I cannot wait to pick up an Xbox One with Halo 2 Anniversary (MC Collection). Microsoft has me sold, and I will be in line day-one to pick up such an awesome collection.

(Fingers crossed for bringing back the Halo 2 ranking system)

As for the rest that I saw, I liked seeing Crackdown and I am confident that Phil will do a great job in leading Xbox. It genuinely seems he cares and wants to the brand to succeed. So I hope we see an old Microsoft bring forth lots of games like the Xbox 360 did during the first half of its lifespan, and not the Kinect dominated casual mantra that we saw come to fruition during the second half. Rare is sitting on a gold mine of IPs, it's time to create a new game outside Kinect... Kameo, Perfect Dark, Banjo... do something Rare!

Although I am disappointed we didn't get to see what Black Tusk was working on. I wanted to see some next-generation Gears of War.

 

[Liamc723]

Using shitty examples doesn't really make your argument any better.

How about turn 10 working on a new PGR...break up the forza monotony.
How about 343 working on a new FPS IP....break up the halo monotony
How about black tust working on a new third person action game IP....break up the gears of war monotony

So basically, you want exactly the same game, with just a different name?

 

[ironcreed]

I came away more sold on the X1 than ever after this E3. Games like Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon 2 give me plenty enough reasons to pick one up before the year is out. Then I will have games like Quantum Break, Below, Ori and the Blind Forest, Halo 5 and Scalebound to look forward to going forward.

 

[KORNdoggy]

So basically, you want exactly the same game, with just a different name?

If you think forza is the same game as PGR then i don't really know how to answer that question..lol.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

I think their output so far is looking extremely "solid". They have the games I'm most looking forward to this fall - Sunset Overdrive, Horizon 2, Halo 2!!! and Ori. There future stuff is pretty exciting as well. I really couldn't care for Phantom Dust or anything from Platinum that isn't Vanquish 2 or MGSR2 but I'm amped for a new take on Gears and Crackdown and Quantum Break could be incredible so yeah very solid.

 

[~~Hasan~~]

I am excited for rare's new game.

 

[wapplew]

Using shitty examples doesn't really make your argument any better.

How about turn 10 working on a new PGR...break up the forza monotony.
How about 343 working on a new FPS IP....break up the halo monotony
How about black tust working on a new third person action game IP....break up the gears of war monotony

See what we're getting at now? MS have old IP's under their belt and competent developers stuck churning out the same games over and over. Surely even you can't be so against them making something new? Something different? And no, something new and different does't mean "a cloud based card game" or "a racing game developer making a JRPG" but i think your knew that anyway.

I don't think they can. I'm not xbox fans, but I think xbox user buy and xbox expect halo, forza. MS have the responsibility to provide them.
Same go for sony, I buy PS4, expect ND game, team ico game or gt.
The different is, fans want halo/gears don't care who make it, I want game from ND, team ico and don't care what they make.

 

[Liamc723]

If you think forza is the same game as PGR then i don't really know how to answer that question..lol.

The only difference is that you have to perform some tricks in PGR to progress, and apart that, they're both semi-realistic racers which use real life cars to go round a track. There's not that much variation there.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

My questioning of the games quality wasn't based on the idea the platform holder never published it. More the fact the game never saw the light of day in the entirely of europe. Demon's souls did, sony might not have seen the greatness, but someone did. Clearly not the case for phantom dust...it must have been awesome!

Clearly. So you either didn't read the rest of my post or just chose to conveniently ignore it. Instead of continuing to spout bullshit, maybe you should go and check some reviews for Phantom Dust or see how often it appears on lists of the best Xbox games and Xbox's hidden gems.

 

[sora87]

I don't think they can. I'm not xbox fans, but I think xbox user buy and xbox expect halo, forza. MS have the responsibility to provide them.
Same go for sony, I buy PS4, expect ND game, team ico game or gt.
The different is, fans want halo/gears don't care who make it, I want game from ND, team ico and don't care what they make.

How's that working out for ya?

 

[Triggerhappytel]

So basically, you want exactly the same game, with just a different name?

Are you being deliberately difficult?! He's saying he would rather MS studios get the chance to make something new, rather than being beholden to their assigned franchise indefinitely.

 

[JimiNutz]

I was impressed.
Not blown away, but impressed.
Hopefully this was just a teaser of what to expect from a Spencer run Xbox division. Next year's E3 should be interesting in terms of MS first party.

Halo 5
Quantum Break
Crackdown
Scalebound
Gears of War 4
Phantom Dust

We know literally nothing about any of these games in terms of their gameplay. Will be interesting to see how they turn out.

 

[Liamc723]

Are you being deliberately difficult?! He's saying he would rather MS studios get the chance to make something new, rather than being beholden to their assigned franchise indefinitely.

No I'm not, I want them to do something new as well, but just "another FPS", or "another racing game" doesn't really cut it.

 

[KORNdoggy]

The only difference is that you have to perform some tricks in PGR to progress, and apart that, they're both semi-realistic racers which use real life cars to go round a track. There's not that much variation there.

Honestly, no, just...no. They're nothing alike. It's saying driveclub is like GT. Yes they have cars, and yes you race them...but mechanically they couldn't be any different.

No I'm not, I want them to do something new as well, but just "another FPS", or "another racing game" doesn't really cut it.

But do you not realise how short sighted your being? "Another FPS" could be anything from strangers wrath, half life 2, riddick, the darkness, doom 3 etc etc. or are you going to say all those are the same too? yes, as an xbox fan you have certain expectations for the console, but that doesn't mean it has to be everything. I'm in the same place with santa monica fir sony, and i woyld be in the same place with ND if ALL they made was uncharted. Franchise fatigue is a thing, despite what ubisoft might have you believe.

 

[JLeack]

No I'm not, I want them to do something new as well, but just "another FPS", or "another racing game" doesn't really cut it.

Is this a late April Fools joke?

• Ori and the Blind Forest
• Inside
• Phantom Dust
• Scalebound
• Crackdown 3

In addition to: Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, and I'm sure one or two others. How can you act like everything coming to Xbox One is a shooter or racer? That's so ridiculously unfair.

 

[TheUnsunghero26]

Sunset Overdrive
Halo 5
Master Chief Collection
Forza Horizon 2
Phantom Dust
Scalebound
Crackdown
Ori
Killer Instinct Season 2
Quantum Break
Project Spark
D4

And other unannounced games. Seems pretty solid.
Edit: forgot Fable.

 

[SegaShack]

I did after E3 2013. After this E3, not so much.

 

[That1BlackGuy]

Sunset Overdrive
Halo 5
Master Chief Collection
Forza Horizon 2
Phantom Dust
Scalebound
Crackdown
Ori
Killer Instinct Season 2
Quantum Break
Project Spark
D4

And other unannounced games. Seems pretty solid.

Yeah, there's a good number of games on this list that I am very much looking forward to 1st party, 2nd party whatever. Whenever I purchase an Xbox, I know I am in for a slew of solid exclusives; XboxOG and X360 were no different.

 

[ChosenPredator]

No. I was actually disappointed. It was really just Halo, Forza, Fable again. Just needed a CG trailer for Gears 4 to complete it. Speaking of Gears, MS forcing Black Tusk to work on it instead of Shangheist doesn't make me confident in MS, either.

Phantom Dust? Phantom Dust. Clearly out of touch, MS is.

Phantom Dust, is a brilliant game as soon as people who never got to experience the OG version play the new one (the studio they picked to develop the game are really huge phantom dust fans as told by ken lobb & adam isgreen)

for me PD was the best game announced because there is absolutely nothing like it out, for those people who dislike the constant FPS games here is a chance to dabble into a fresh new world.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

That's not a first party game...

Yes, it is. Platinum is not a Microsoft owned studio but Scalebound is being fully funded and published by MS. It's part of the company's first party lineup.

Going by your logic, Gears of War was not a first party franchise last generation.

 

[Seismic response]

That said, I also feel good about the state of their first party studios, and I really like the fact that Rare, Lionhead, Black Tusk, Twisted Pixel, LXG, Turn 10 and Lift London are all working on games that haven't been announced yet, even if we have some general ideas about some of them.

Yeah, I am hoping MS decides to have a big presence at Gamescom and TGS. Hopefully they reveal one or two unannounced games to keep some positive news going into the holiday season.

 

[Liamc723]

But do you not realise how short sighted your being? "Another FPS" could be anything from strangers wrath, half life 2, riddick, the darkness, doom 3 etc etc. or are you going to say all those are the same too? yes, as an xbox fan you have certain expectations for the console, but that doesn't mean it has to be everything. I'm in the same place with santa monica fir sony, and i woyld be in the same place with ND if ALL they made was uncharted. Franchise fatigue is a thing, despite what ubisoft might have you believe.

Well yes I would like those sort of shooters on the Xbox, no they are not the same. The way you worded it made me think differently of what sort of games you were insinuating, I apologise.

 

[reKon]

Regarding 1st parties, they are still going to be behind. Exclusive wise on the other hand... they should able to do better going forward. What I find surprising in most of these threads when the topic of exclusives comes up is that people are excited about exclusives where I think the developer still has to prove themselves. I think that when we get more good gameplay impressions, this will be less of an issue. Ryse did not get good impressions from me and many others and we all know how that turned out. It could be perceived as an under rated game, but I don't think anyone can comfortably say that the game was the reason for owning an Xbox as fan boys would argue.

Personally I feel that if you like really like the Halo series and it's must have exclusive, then you go with the Xbox One. Also, I never understand the hype behind Crackdown on these boards. Xbox owners here treat it like it's the Demon Souls of Xbox (meaning that everyone loves the game). I played the first one Xbox 360 and thought it was pretty decent, but I enjoyed other open world games much more...

 

[Liamc723]

Is this a late April Fools joke?

• Ori and the Blind Forest
• Inside
• Phantom Dust
• Scalebound
• Crackdown 3

In addition to: Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, and I'm sure one or two others. How can you act like everything coming to Xbox One is a shooter or racer? That's so ridiculously unfair.

Those comments were in reply to another poster's suggestions, I am fully aware of those titles you listed and I'm very happy that I'll be able to play them on my Xbox One. I'm not acting like there's only shooters and racers, I know there's more.

 

[abadguy]

If you think forza is the same game as PGR then i don't really know how to answer that question..lol.

Horizon is a lot closer to PGR than the mainline Forza is, just because they share a branding does'nt mean they play the same. Also people still complaining about Forza , Halo and Gears( a game that did'nt even show up at E3) while ignoring or dismissing everything else they showed that had nothing to do with them.

 

[ironcreed]

Horizon is a lot closer to PGR than the mainline Forza is, just because they share a branding does'nt mean they play the same. Also people still complaining about Forza , Halo and Gears( a game that did'nt even show up at E3) while ignoring or dismissing everything else they showed that had nothing to do with them.

Horizon is really more of a take on Test Drive Unlimited more than anything. And with Horizon 2, it is looking to expand on that to an even greater extent. Can't wait.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Yeah, I am hoping MS decides to have a big presence at Gamescom and TGS. Hopefully they reveal one or two unannounced games to keep some positive news going into the holiday season.

I fully expect all of that, and more at VGX and perhaps some smaller conventions. Aren't Undead Labs also supposed to reveal their new game this year?

 

[Bgamer90]

To me, exclusives are exclusives whether first party or not so yes, I'm very pleased. Many solid looking games coming out to the Xbox One this year and next year and with a ton of variety. Forza Horizon 2, Ori, Dance Central Spotilight, Sunset Overdrive, Master Chief Collection, Quantum Break, etc.

Got the Xbox One first over the PS4 last year due to the system having more exclusives that I was interested in and that's continuing to be true. I would be really bummed out if I didn't have an Xbox One.

 

[Nightengale]

Aren't Undead Labs also supposed to reveal their new game this year?

Not that I recall of.

I remember Undead Labs popping up in the news 3 times this year for:

Jan - signed multi-game deal with MS for consoles and PC.
Feb - Lifeline DLC announced.
May/June - Lifeline released/Undead says they won't be at E3.