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Fellow Americans, do you realize how much people envy us?

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Go_Ly_Dow

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I fucking love England. There are certain things which are just brilliant about the country, there's a lot of things which I am proud of. I know it doesnlt make sense for me to be proud of coming from the same country as the likes of Newton, Darwin, Shakespeare, Rowling, Dickens etc. I don't even like The Beatles, but I'm proud of the influence they've had on entertainment culture for the last 40+ years.

I love the variety of food I can find within 10 minutes. I love the array of cultures and races I can bump into on my high street. I love driving through the countryside. I appreciate our legal system for getting it right 99% of the time, and I love the country-wide knowledge that 99% still isn't enough. I love the fact that we have no death penalty, or 3-strike rule. I love that football is our national game. I love the ideals behind our political systems, even if I don't like most of the people within it.

I love the NHS. I love the England team in all sports, even though the football team is full of people I don't like for 11 months of the year. I was ecstatic when we found out we were hosting the Olympics, even though it'll cost us a shitload of money. I was devestated when we recieved barely any votes to host the 2018 World Cup. I love the National Trust. I love the RSPCA. I love the fact that we have days dedicated to Children in Need and Comic Relief. I love the fact that I'm completely free to worship whatever God I choose. I love the fact that I'm free to worship nothing.

I love that my forefathers had a role in both World Wars, and I'm damn proud to say that we fought Fascism with every ounce of the country's strength. I love the BBC, and fuck you if you want rid of it. I love regional accents, even if a few of them are a bit annoying. I love the way that the British (English at least) love complaining about everything, but will defend the country to the hilt if a foreigner criticises the place (vaguely racist as that sounds) I love the way that we embrace certain parts of other cultures without suffocating the unique feeling of Englishness that you get when walking around a village.

I absolutely adore England. But I'm not so arrogant as to think that anybody should be jealous of us.

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although my dream is to live in other countries throughout europe and asia and there are many small things that nag me about the uk, this is one fantastic post.

i've lived here all my life and don't dislike living here and most of the reasons for it are in this post.
 

Esch

Banned
I don't envy a country with a system that only allows the rich to survive from diseases. That's horrible!

You make it seem like World War Z over here. No hospitals, no doctors, people dying in the streets. smh.

Red Blaster's trolling is hilarious, anyone praising Kurt Cobain shouldn't be taken seriously
 
Who was the last British Prime Minster to be come from the North out of interest, with a regional accent in tow?

Harold Wilson if you mean North of England. Gordon Brown from the north in general.

John Prescott was deputy PM and was mocked a lot for the way he spoke and had to take elocution lessons to take the edge off his Hull accent. But Maggie Thatcher also took lessons to learn how to speak in a more authoritative way.
 

FStop7

Banned
You know what I like about the UK? The fact that some of the grittiest, bluesiest, roaringest rock and roll bands are from there. And by some I mean a LOT. Rock and roll is characterized as such an American thing and yet...
 

GCX

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All in all it's a pretty funny idea of being proud of being a citizen of some random country. It makes it sounds like a huge achievement that I was born in this particular place.
 

Esch

Banned
Shocking that anyone can make you anything considering your big swinging military dick you were bragging about not 2 pages ago.

Ignore it if it bothers you, if it wasn't for our "expansionist" history you wouldn't even exist dear.
Don't pretend to know what I feel. I am not bragging about the american military at all. just stating a fact. I am a person who is in favor of reducing military spending by a huge amount FYI, so...

I am fully aware that America is a result of British colonialism. You think I don't have bones about how america was founded?

hint, i'm not white and i'm the child of immigrants
 

Piggus

Member
lol at the health care complaints. Yes, it's annoying but it's hardly an issue for most people. You all pay for health care through taxes, whereas we pay for it ourselves. We want it to change and it probably will at some point.

I enjoy living in the most powerful country on earth where western culture is defined. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
 

SmokyDave

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I fucking love England. There are certain things which are just brilliant about the country, there's a lot of things which I am proud of. I know it doesnlt make sense for me to be proud of coming from the same country as the likes of Newton, Darwin, Shakespeare, Rowling, Dickens etc. I don't even like The Beatles, but I'm proud of the influence they've had on entertainment culture for the last 40+ years.

I love the variety of food I can find within 10 minutes. I love the array of cultures and races I can bump into on my high street. I love driving through the countryside. I appreciate our legal system for getting it right 99% of the time, and I love the country-wide knowledge that 99% still isn't enough. I love the fact that we have no death penalty, or 3-strike rule. I love that football is our national game. I love the ideals behind our political systems, even if I don't like most of the people within it.

I love the NHS. I love the England team in all sports, even though the football team is full of people I don't like for 11 months of the year. I was ecstatic when we found out we were hosting the Olympics, even though it'll cost us a shitload of money. I was devestated when we recieved barely any votes to host the 2018 World Cup. I love the National Trust. I love the RSPCA. I love the fact that we have days dedicated to Children in Need and Comic Relief. I love the fact that I'm completely free to worship whatever God I choose. I love the fact that I'm free to worship nothing.

I love that my forefathers had a role in both World Wars, and I'm damn proud to say that we fought Fascism with every ounce of the country's strength. I love the BBC, and fuck you if you want rid of it. I love regional accents, even if a few of them are a bit annoying. I love the way that the British (English at least) love complaining about everything, but will defend the country to the hilt if a foreigner criticises the place (vaguely racist as that sounds) I love the way that we embrace certain parts of other cultures without suffocating the unique feeling of Englishness that you get when walking around a village.

I absolutely adore England. But I'm not so arrogant as to think that anybody should be jealous of us.
My chest is swelling with pride. Set this post to an Edward Elgar soundtrack and nail it to a bulldog.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Liam Gallagher compared to Kurt Cobain demonstrates just how much worse Britain is compared to America.

Kurt was a postmodernist that dislodged an entire industry. What did he do after Nevermind was a huge success? Hire Steve Albini and make an ultra abrasive record cause he frankly didn't give a shit. Comparatively, Liam Gallagher wrote music tailor made for knuckle-dragging idiots, unironically wore stuff like this and thought "I'll take my car and drive real far" was an okay turn of phrase.

Also get back to me when Britain produces someone as cool as Miles Davis

Cool didn't really exist until The Beatles invented it, to be honest.

Can we get part of churchill?

You can have him to be honest. Most overrated PM in history. Also, his mother was American.
 

Fari

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I fucking love England. There are certain things which are just brilliant about the country, there's a lot of things which I am proud of. I know it doesnlt make sense for me to be proud of coming from the same country as the likes of Newton, Darwin, Shakespeare, Rowling, Dickens etc. I don't even like The Beatles, but I'm proud of the influence they've had on entertainment culture for the last 40+ years.

I love the variety of food I can find within 10 minutes. I love the array of cultures and races I can bump into on my high street. I love driving through the countryside. I appreciate our legal system for getting it right 99% of the time, and I love the country-wide knowledge that 99% still isn't enough. I love the fact that we have no death penalty, or 3-strike rule. I love that football is our national game. I love the ideals behind our political systems, even if I don't like most of the people within it.

I love the NHS. I love the England team in all sports, even though the football team is full of people I don't like for 11 months of the year. I was ecstatic when we found out we were hosting the Olympics, even though it'll cost us a shitload of money. I was devestated when we recieved barely any votes to host the 2018 World Cup. I love the National Trust. I love the RSPCA. I love the fact that we have days dedicated to Children in Need and Comic Relief. I love the fact that I'm completely free to worship whatever God I choose. I love the fact that I'm free to worship nothing.

I love that my forefathers had a role in both World Wars, and I'm damn proud to say that we fought Fascism with every ounce of the country's strength. I love the BBC, and fuck you if you want rid of it. I love regional accents, even if a few of them are a bit annoying. I love the way that the British (English at least) love complaining about everything, but will defend the country to the hilt if a foreigner criticises the place (vaguely racist as that sounds) I love the way that we embrace certain parts of other cultures without suffocating the unique feeling of Englishness that you get when walking around a village.

I absolutely adore England. But I'm not so arrogant as to think that anybody should be jealous of us.


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J-Rod

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The USA seems to be disproportionately scrutinized by people who have never lived here compared to other modern countries.
 
All in all it's a pretty funny idea of being proud of being a citizen of some random country. It makes it sounds like a huge achievement that I was born in this particular place.

I am proud to be an American. I love almost everything about it. I know it's all random that this is where I was born but, well, that's where I was born. I love grilling out on July 4th, never had a problem saying the pledge of allegiance, whatever else people complain about on the Internet.
 
Lack of free healthcare in America is just god's way of saying nobody's perfect

That less cool black people in America stole from cooler Africans, that they made into slaves.

ftw.

Rock and roll existed in the early-mid 19th century? You'd better phone up Obama and alert him to his unfounded piece of American history. Either that or maybe you should get your money back for that 2nd-rate British education you received.
 

IceCold

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As a Canadian I don't see why I'd envy the US. There are no religious nuts here, there are less fat people, education is cheap, health care is free, it's less prudish etc. On top of that I have access to all the American media I want. I guess the only really good thing about the US is how cheap electronics are and how awesome amazon.com is compared to .ca.
 
I'll say this again. Most americans have health care. I broke my arm. My family didn't go bankrupt.



Wow..... no....

Bedsides the point. If you didn't have insurance you would have. Maybe not bankrupt, just googled the cost of a broken arm to be between $15000-$20000, but still a life changing debt which I would have no worries about incurring at all in england thanks to the NHS.

Public healthcare is a deal-breaker for me. Besides that, as I say I'm an Americanaboo.
 

Munin

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I feel sorry for all the Americans who are offered so little in life that they must define themselves through their national belonging. Most Americans I have met in life were obnoxious, self-entitled fucks who were ignorant about other cultures and would have been happy to never leave their own country.

And yeah, I guess if trashy food, cronyism and bad pop music make up "Western culture" nowadays I suppose it's true that all that is defined in America.
 
I think this thread needs some music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f33KzjrjTg0

It's a high school prom
It's a springstein song
It's a ride in a chevrolet
It's a man on the moon
And fireflies in June
Kids sellin lemonade
It's cities and farms
And open arms
One nation under god
It's america

....

Now we might not always get it right
But there's nowhere else I rather build my life

I feel sorry for all the Americans who are offered so little in life that they must define themselves through their national belonging. Most Americans I have met in life were obnoxious, self-entitled fucks who were ignorant about other cultures and would have been happy to never leave their own country.

And yeah, I guess if trashy food, cronyism and bad pop music make up "Western culture" nowadays I suppose it's true that all that is defined in America.

Someone's angry.

Also here's some bad pop music to make you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSdARok2S8U&feature=fvst
 

SteveWD40

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Lack of free healthcare in America is just god's way of saying nobody's perfect



Rock and roll existed in the early-mid 19th century? You'd better phone up Obama and alert him to his unfounded piece of American history. Either that or maybe you should get your money back for that 2nd-rate British education you received.

You are trying to hard, tone it down some, I suggest study your betters for a while and learn to troll without being so aggressive.

C-
 
Bedsides the point. If you didn't have insurance you would have. Maybe not bankrupt, just googled the cost of a broken arm to be between $15000-$20000, but still a life changing debt which I would have no worries about incurring at all in england thanks to the NHS.

Public healthcare is a deal-breaker for me. Besides that, as I say I'm an Americanaboo.

No. And if why would you not have insurance? BTW he have insurance for kids.
Where are American cities' city walls? Where are their castles? Where are their signs of history?

We live free.
 

Esch

Banned
I feel sorry for all the Americans who are offered so little in life that they must define themselves through their national belonging. Most Americans I have met in life were obnoxious, self-entitled fucks who were ignorant about other cultures and would have been happy to never leave their own country.

And yeah, I guess if trashy food, cronyism and bad pop music make up "Western culture" nowadays I suppose it's true that all that is defined in America
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Pretty much. We keep it trill for you over here.
 

Steelrain

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I feel sorry for all the Americans who are offered so little in life that they must define themselves through their national belonging. Most Americans I have met in life were obnoxious, self-entitled fucks who were ignorant about other cultures and would have been happy to never leave their own country.

And yeah, I guess if trashy food, cronyism and bad pop music make up "Western culture" nowadays I suppose it's true that all that is defined in America.

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Look at all these people from loser countries getting mad

I dunno about you guys but I like living in a country where black athletes don't get bananas thrown at them while also being able to kill people and get away with it.

Fact: you guys didn't create rock and roll, rap music, The Wire and Clint Eastwood

fixed? :p
In Germany we throw bananas at white people:

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There are certainly a lot of aspects of the US I envy Americans for, but there are still more aspects I pity you for (even though most of them are not exclusive to the US). Just off the top of my head:
- huge & ever growing income inequality. It's bound to bite you in the ass at some point.
- poor social safety net, abysmal handling of the poorest among you (hobos, crazies, junkies)...just let them roam the streets and feed them cheezburgers at the end of the day, lol.
- poor to non-existent public services (transportation, health, education)
- poor regulation/inadequate competition in regards to:
  • the telecommunications sector (getting ass raped by the cellular, internet & cable providers). Paying for receiving calls or text messages? I'm sure that's a US-only thing. Bandwidth caps, 56k-like speeds, etc - enough said. As for basic cable, I just thought it's expensive as hell compared to what it offers..
  • the banking/financial sector: i.e. getting ass raped on all sorts of banking fees and not even having the ability to freely wire transfer around money between banks, like we all do in Europe for ages and soon will be doing be across borders too. People fiddling with cheques like back in the 50ies is just laughable..)
  • Food/health: having to go to great strides to find organic/gmo free food (meat) - depends on where you live, I know, but for instance in Germany it doesn't. Paying premiums for fresh produce compared to gallons of lemonade, chips, cookies, sweets, some disgusting microwavable vomit. All thanks to the almighty corn and the high-fructose corn syrup.
    Having to pay humongous hospital/doctor bills or going broke because of it ___despite of being insured___

- crime/(hidden) racism: high rates of homicides, murders, rapes etc. Existence of outright hell holes due to urban segregation. Disproportional amounts of blacks and hispanics in jails, etc.

- Batshit insane religious zealots who don't just hide somewhere in the woods, but actively try to change the course of the country.

- Circus politics, crazy fucking circus politics. Straight up nuts and petty and brainless and harmful and disgusting.....

Ok, I spent like 20mins listing all that and now I gotta go.
The envy is killing me..
 

Piggus

Member
All in all it's a pretty funny idea of being proud of being a citizen of some random country. It makes it sounds like a huge achievement that I was born in this particular place.

That's not what it's about at all. "Proud to be XXXX" means you're proud of what your country and its people stand for. If you're not proud to be XXXX then you're living in the wrong country.
 

NH Apache

Banned
I feel sorry for all the Americans who are offered so little in life that they must define themselves through their national belonging. Most Americans I have met in life were obnoxious, self-entitled fucks who were ignorant about other cultures and would have been happy to never leave their own country.

And yeah, I guess if trashy food, cronyism and bad pop music make up "Western culture" nowadays I suppose it's true that all that is defined in America.

Yeah, that American niche for the aforementioned Western Culture is usually obsessed over by people who are not in the US. See: the entire world.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
I feel sorry for all the Americans who are offered so little in life that they must define themselves through their national belonging. Most Americans I have met in life were obnoxious, self-entitled fucks who were ignorant about other cultures and would have been happy to never leave their own country.

And yeah, I guess if trashy food, cronyism and bad pop music make up "Western culture" nowadays I suppose it's true that all that is defined in America.

the hate is strong in this one.
 

I want universal care. My question was just his point that his thesis was that his kids arm would bankrupt him I was just wondering why he wouldn't have care because has you link says
often as a result of unemployment and other job changes.

If he was working he'd be fine. And also there a lot of insurance plans for kids in states. It just is the michael more hyperbole. We need to fix it but its not mad max over here.
 
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