Ferguson: Police Officer Kills 18yo Michael Brown; Protests/Riots Continue

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MIMIC said:
Yeah, I didn't even realize it. Delaying the announcement until nightfall does not make sense from a public safety standpoint.

UNLESS.....
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Given the public safety-related decisions made so far in this entire affair, I was halfway expecting them to announce it on Thanksgiving Evening or something absolutely ridiculous like that.
 
Buddy of mine is a cop and is convinced the guy didn't do anything wrong from what I can tell. Doesn't even seem willing to consider all sides. Frustrating.
 
This is so orchestrated. I didn't really see it till now. But if they chose to announce he's not guilty at night time, thats pretty obvious that they want to have a confrontation. With justice behind them, and americans all catching up on netflix at home.

I know its fucked up. But damn world. Dont think I'm ready for that..
 
I do feel sorry for all those officers who are not bad apples and who have to face the anger of the local community. All this could have been avoided if the institutions worked properly.
 
jhmtehgamr20xx said:
If Wilson isn't indited, I can't wait for Obama's tired, flat, ho-hum, highly neutered "reflective" remarks on the outcome.

Of, if in the case riots do happen, put 100% of the blame on the protesters along w/ the other idiots who do the same, and then give the flat, tired, ho-hum, neutered "reflective" remarks.
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Whatever harm and/or damages caused by rioters should absolutely be blamed on them. It's disturbing how many people think violent protesters have a free pass to harm people and cause chaos if there is no indictment tonight.
 
commedieu said:
This is so orchestrated. I didn't really see it till now. But if they chose to announce he's not guilty at night time, thats pretty obvious that they want to have a confrontation. With justice behind them, and americans all catching up on netflix at home.

I know its fucked up. But damn world. Dont think I'm ready for that..
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There's really no other reason to do it now, after night has fallen. Especially considering the decision has been made earlier in the day. There was no reason to wait unless you wanted to start something.
 
jhmtehgamr20xx said:
If Wilson isn't indited, I can't wait for Obama's tired, flat, ho-hum, highly neutered "reflective" remarks on the outcome.

Of, if in the case riots do happen, put 100% of the blame on the protesters along w/ the other idiots who do the same, and then give the flat, tired, ho-hum, neutered "reflective" remarks.
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what would you like for Obama to do exactly? he doesn't control the police
 
Sunny Hostin: this shit was a procedural mess

(paraphrasing, lol)

The nature of high-profile cases these days have really turned the justice system (civil and criminal) into a joke.
 
For people wanting an indictment, is there any reasonable evidence they could present that would let you think it was the correct decision? Extensive injuries to Wilson? Multiple witnesses saying Brown was charging Wilson?
 
I wonder if they waited to announce the decision like this, this late, knowing that crowds would join together. Thinking maybe they could control whatever may happen better if everyone was in a more centralized location like this instead of scattered everywhere?
 
Downhome said:
I wonder if they waited to announce the decision like this, this late, knowing that crowds would join together. Thinking maybe they could control whatever may happen better if everyone was in a more centralized location like this instead of scattered everywhere?
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shit im surprised they didnt wait until wednesday night.
 
Brian Stelter ‏@brianstelter 45s45 seconds ago
Breaking: @DonLemon live on CNN: source close to Darren Wilson says Wilson's reps have concluded "that there is going to be no indictment."
 
CNN reporting that Darren Wilson 'representatives' believe there will be no indictment based on him not being asked to turn himself in to police.
 
I would love to be wrong, but following this whole situation from the beginning it was pretty clear to me that Wilson was never going to be charged. From the behavior of the police department to the DA who grew up idolizing cops, to the governor who just wanted this whole situation to go away, I never got the sense that anyone in power had any interest in prosecuting Wilson.
 
Ezenzer said:
Whatever harm and/or damages caused by rioters should absolutely be blamed on them. It's disturbing how many people think violent protesters have a free pass to harm people and cause chaos if there is no indictment tonight.
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People don't protest for the hell of it; it's a symptom of a problem, usually socio-economic disenfranchisement, and it's an immediate way of voicing one's frustration on that front.

Like I said before, people aren't robots. And how do you get "get 100% of the blame" suddenly means me saying "give them 0% of the blame"? Of course they take some of the blame....everyone does.

We'll just say if there are riots, the protesters are 50% responsible, and the police officers and legal system are responsible for the other 50%.

Boom Boom Pow said:
what would you like for Obama to do exactly? he doesn't control the police
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Show some emotion?

He managed to do it earlier last week w/ the immigration speech, it sounded like he felt the pain of the affected families and channeled that through in his speech. One of the few speeches from him that actually felt genuine and from the heart.

When he's on the grand national stage and there are issues like this involving,...well....black people, OTOH, he just tends to shy away. Which is somewhat hypocritical, and disappointing regardless of who you are. When even the black President of the United States treats injustices of black people in a "by-the-numbers" fashion, that doesn't send a very positive message to others.

The funny thing is he could easily disguise any uncomfortable racial elements behind a personal call for action on police brutality and gun laws and bring up other incidents like Holmes and Sandy Hook, to remind people again where the gun problem in the country can lead to. As sick as it sounds there are folks who couldn't give less of a shit for Micheal Brown but would be all over gun reform if you shoved the Sandy Hook victims in their face, or that one white teen in the South who was shot to death by a police officer doing a home invasion (that actually happened).
 
turtle553 said:
For people wanting an indictment, is there any reasonable evidence they could present that would let you think it was the correct decision? Extensive injuries to Wilson? Multiple witnesses saying Brown was charging Wilson?
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If they could produce ANYTHING substantive I'm sure many might reconsider. But the Fact they haven't makes it all suspect. If he was injured then why not put out a report? A simple photo of Wilson with injuries would support their claims. But there's nothing because they have nothing
 
Ezenzer said:
Whatever harm and/or damages caused by rioters should absolutely be blamed on them. It's disturbing how many people think violent protesters have a free pass to harm people and cause chaos if there is no indictment tonight.
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No. Its just weird that you keep harping on the destruction as if that's the reason the riot is happening. It happens as a byproduct when peaceful means are broken. Just like how riots happen when rights are trampled, oh, anywhere in the world? Its damn near part of the way governments work, at hard times. There isnt just all bad in rioting. And you're focusing on only the limited immediate problems

Yes, people will die if it gets out of hand. This whole situation is because of death. People will also die in Ferguson without doing anything wrong. And lets be real, Riots are suppressed by military police these days. There aren't going to be shop owners atop their insured property.

Harm and damage is on the head of the people responsible. Of course. If you kill someone during a riot, you should be tried for it. Again, of course. But no, I do see value in rioting when the entire justice system, as well as voting system, is compromised by historic precedent. I get why people riot over someone stealing a presidency. I get why I won't condemn them for not writing a letter to the military that runs their country, and rules with the intimidation we are about to see.
 
CNN: Don Lemon saying that, through deduction, Wilson's team has concluded that there will be no indictment (per a source close to Wilson)
-nothing has "gone out" to indicate that an indictment will be made
-that the announcement of an indictment cannot be made unless the suspect is in custody and no indication that he will be placed into custody
 
ronito said:
If they could produce ANYTHING substantive I'm sure many might reconsider. But the Fact they haven't makes it all suspect. If he was injured then why not put out a report? A simple photo of Wilson with injuries would support their claims. But there's nothing because they have nothing
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There is apparently a lot of evidence that was considered by the grand jury. It shouldn't be expected that all details of an ongoing investigation would be made public (witnesses coming forward did so on their own, for example) and not seeing any shouldn't be used to draw any conclusions yet.
 
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