FF XIV: Legacy & Welcome Back(Accounts must be registered by May 31st for Legacy!)

Jinko said:
Don't use Ambient Occlusion it completely screws up your framerate.

I wouldn't use General Drawing Quality above 8 either as it will render the game as 25 and 50 % the windowed resolution. (ie supersampling)



Have you paid for 90 days cumulative subscription ?
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Yeah i paid for 90 days
 
StateofMind said:
Am I going to be able to pay for 90 days and get Legacy status even if I can't install the game/make a character?
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In theory yes. As everything you need to do is on the account website. . . But I'm not sure if you need a active character to trigger the 30 days or something.
 
Those experiencing slow framerates, UI slugginesh etc etc

Fixed in 2.0. What we have on atm is a band aid on something that needs surgery.
 
I bought this yesterday and paid for the 3 months. If i try to play it though it runs like ps2 in besieged . sad :( see you guys sometime, need to make a computer
 
Reallink said:
I played the game for 3 or 4 months when it first came out, probably several hundred hours. Even with that much experience and knowing all the basics, coming back cold, I couldn't really figure out how to find or enter the Inn. This was down to shitty ass map and (I assume) continued reliance on random nonsensical NPC quests to accomplish anything. NPC at the door just kept speaking in tongues. There's so much dead space and so many meaningless NPC's, I have no idea where to start without consulting a guide. Game is still in a really sad state with the new team basically just tweaking and modifying the horrible foundation of the OG release. They really needed to completely scrap most of the game, but up this point, they've just been polishing a turd. The repair system is probably the worst part of the game, requiring hundreds and hundreds of hours to maintain yourself and/or enormous amounts of gil. That shit should have been the first thing they dropped.
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The repairs now really dont require much at all in the way of gil. You can either hit an Npc for 99% repair, or just snag whatever grade dark matter the item needs and request someone repair for you. Also things dont degrade anywhere as fast as they used to.

Also about the Inn, isnt it just a bed on the map? If you mean the npc at the actual inn within the adventurer's guild, I think they did something in an update that tied into inns being renovated, so he or she directs you to a temp. room elsewhere in the city.

Not to be rude or whatever, but how are you getting confused by the map? It really isnt that complicated looking imo. And there are markers for almost everything now. As far as basic game mechanics, almost everything is different, so experience from back then really wouldnt help now.
 
kiryogi said:
In theory yes. As everything you need to do is on the account website. . . But I'm not sure if you need a active character to trigger the 30 days or something.
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I hope this is true, as I only have my mac right now; my PC is 500 kilometers away from me and I'll get to it in the second half of June.

Just to be absolutely certain, is this the website?
 
I love the artstyle in this game's graphics. The ugly looking characters were one of the reasons I couldn't get into WoW.
 
Any suggestions for races? I haven't looked into whether there are stat differences for different ones, but I'm thinking I'll make a Roegadyn.
 
If it's anything like FFXI, race differences will be minimal, advantages/disadvantages light. The only big differences in FFXI were the giant Galka classes were not very good at mage jobs, and the tiny Taru's were not good at melee jobs, though good players, and good gear (especially with the Tarus) could overcome those differences. The other three races had very small differences.
 
Darte said:
Goobue mount you can get as long as you hit level 30 i think.

Legacy = pay up for 90 days at least before 2.0 launches.
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Dang lvl 30 for the mount?

Don't know if I will be able to hit that, but the thing is so crazy looking I would actually kinda be sad if I missed out.
 
DrForester said:
If it's anything like FFXI, race differences will be minimal, advantages/disadvantages light. The only big differences in FFXI were the giant Galka classes were not very good at mage jobs, and the tiny Taru's were not good at melee jobs, though good players, and good gear (especially with the Tarus) could overcome those differences. The other three races had very small differences.
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My taru was an awesome melee. Bst/war/sam/mnk. Taru asuran fists made up for the slight difference in strength
 
I wish they'd add a tail length (from none to FFXI Galka length) option to Roegadyn. The other race transitions look better, but Galka -> Roegadyn won't feel right without the slowly swinging tail.
 
Man I don't know what I should do... I would like to join the LS now, so I can have people to talk with. I'm just worried my name on Gungnir won't be available on that server. My highest level is only 11, so I can catch back up.
 
kiryogi said:
Why not? Are you just soloing? Or have you bothered to join the ls? 30 isn't that hard.
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Been soloing so far, wanted to get a feel for the game and learn the systems before I joined the LS.

That and I couldn't figure out how to message in game, couldn't find a WoW like mail box system and I didn't want to just try randomly whispering people in the OP haha. I've made it to level 8 so far and finally starting to feel a little more comfortable, though I think I picked the wrong class but at least I can make up for that.
 
I just created a Square-Enix account on their website. I'm wondering if I should subscribe to the XIV service over there or wait until I can play the game.
 
Don't be shy! One of the best things to start off with is to join a good community. Red Dot/GAF are pretty friendly and very supportive. Provided we're around, we'll give you a hand and answer any questions you have. As this game can still be very unforgiving about explaining everything even with its little tutorials.

Just do /t to one of the listed names (case sensitive) and we'll get you aqquainted.

Example: /t Eithne Rain hi I'm from GAF!
 
TruePrime said:
Dang lvl 30 for the mount?

Don't know if I will be able to hit that, but the thing is so crazy looking I would actually kinda be sad if I missed out.
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You can get to level 30 in under a week solo, a couple of days if you're playing with friends. I think I got my giant mount man on like my 3rd or 4th day playing.

Leveling in FF14 is very fast, on par with something like WoW post-cataclysm I'd say, for those who have experienced that. If you're playing with friends every night it's very possible to hit max level in a class in a week and a half or so.

Skipping on some story bits later on speeds it up I'd say though, once all 3 of the story lines converge into one the story becomes pretty tedious and lengthy vs. XP gained. It's still worth doing of course since the story/world is really interesting in 14 I just found personally it slowed down xp gain quite a bit.

BlazingDarkness said:
My main gripe with XIV is how sluggish everything is, the menus are difficult and slow to navigate, targeting enemies and NPCs is awkward, and in general everything just feels too slow
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This was my main gripe as well, sometimes it took me up to 5 seconds for a menu to open after I clicked on it from the main menu. It's something I hope gets sorted out in 2.0.
 
Teknoman said:
The repairs now really dont require much at all in the way of gil. You can either hit an Npc for 99% repair, or just snag whatever grade dark matter the item needs and request someone repair for you. Also things dont degrade anywhere as fast as they used to.

Also about the Inn, isnt it just a bed on the map? If you mean the npc at the actual inn within the adventurer's guild, I think they did something in an update that tied into inns being renovated, so he or she directs you to a temp. room elsewhere in the city.

Not to be rude or whatever, but how are you getting confused by the map? It really isnt that complicated looking imo. And there are markers for almost everything now. As far as basic game mechanics, almost everything is different, so experience from back then really wouldnt help now.
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I don't know, the NPC wanted 10k to repair lvl 48 belt and 5k for a lvl 38 weapon. Based on that, I'm assuming most gear mid 30's thru 50 was 5-10k+ per piece--times however many slots there are (10-15ish?). Seemed like a pretty significant expenditure. If it degrades slow enough for that kind of cost to be a non-issue, then it sounds like it's probably slow enough to just drop the system entirely. Ultimately it's a question of does anyone really enjoy tracking down repair materials and constantly bugging friends/LS's to repair their gear--or worst yet, spamming shouts in towns? For the vast majority of players, that answer is probably no. There are a hundred better ways to remove gil from the economy, and if they want people to craft, they should have created a crafting system that was fun and rewarding--not one they have to force players to do.

Not really sure what's going on with the Inn. The icon on the map leads to an NPC standing beside a door. He speaks gibberish in some made up accent, no idea what he says. It doesn't seem to be a lead of any sort, just standard throw away dialogue. I'm assuming there is a different NPC at some undisclosed location with a quest and/or some rambling dialogue that grants access to the inn at the first NPC. This really speaks to the larger issue of why they have lock everything behind an NPC, quest, or meaningless back story. Take for example having to locate and talk to NPC's to activate your achievement list. Seriously, WTF.

The map is a problem because it's position grid is dual numeric. This is great for people familiar with long/lat--not so much for your average joe who is simply going to guess at which is which and wind up at the wrong location half the time. Maybe they've added somethings since (I didn't spend a great amount of time with the map), but it used to be lacking any type of zoom function or user created waypoints as well. It also scrolls horribly slow with the controller, not sure about m/kb.
 
I don't know where to go next. I started out in the forest area and did all the story missions up to the part where you gotta go the emotes on the kids and then do that escort mission with the other 2 kids. I can't find any mission NPCs in town after it was all over.
 
Zee-Row said:
I don't know where to go next. I started out in the forest area and did all the story missions up to the part where you gotta go the emotes on the kids and then do that escort mission with the other 2 kids. I can't find any mission NPCs in town after it was all over.
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The story quests do not flow from one to the next (which is why they give you a link pearl fairly early on). They come at specific levels, which means you basically need to go out and grind until the next one. Specifically you should be doing the guild leves, you've probably got a few built up already if you haven't done any yet.

That's where the bulk of your XP will probably come from anyway, story xp is fairly abysmal for how much time they require.

In the forest town you pick them up in the building with the inn/airship, it's down a ramp past the chocobo renting guy IIRC. That is also where you pick up story quests for a good while as well.
 
how do i play the game? i bought it for 10 bucks off amazon, put in the key, now it says "50002 the proper options must be added to a Final Fantasy XIV service account before a character can be created"
 
Reallink said:
I don't know, the NPC wanted 10k to repair lvl 48 belt and 5k for a lvl 38 weapon. Based on that, I'm assuming most gear mid 30's thru 50 was 5-10k+ per piece--times however many slots there are (10-15ish?). Seemed like a pretty significant expenditure. If it degrades slow enough for that kind of cost to be a non-issue, then it sounds like it's probably slow enough to just drop the system entirely. Ultimately it's a question of does anyone really enjoy tracking down repair materials and constantly bugging friends/LS's to repair their gear--or worst yet, spamming shouts in towns? For the vast majority of players, that answer is probably no. There are a hundred better ways to remove gil from the economy, and if they want people to craft, they should have created a crafting system that was fun and rewarding--not one they have to force players to do.

Not really sure what's going on with the Inn. The icon on the map leads to an NPC standing beside a door. He speaks gibberish in some made up accent, no idea what he says. It doesn't seem to be a lead of any sort, just standard throw away dialogue. I'm assuming there is a different NPC at some undisclosed location with a quest and/or some rambling dialogue that grants access to the inn at the first NPC. This really speaks to the larger issue of why they have lock everything behind an NPC, quest, or meaningless back story. Take for example having to locate and talk to NPC's to activate your achievement list. Seriously, WTF.

The map is a problem because it's position grid is dual numeric. This is great for people familiar with long/lat--not so much for your average joe who is simply going to guess at which is which and wind up at the wrong location half the time. Maybe they've added somethings since (I didn't spend a great amount of time with the map), but it used to be lacking any type of zoom function or user created waypoints as well. It also scrolls horribly slow with the controller, not sure about m/kb.
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What city are you in? I'm guessing Limsa Lominsa because of the accent?

EDIT: Figure i'd go ahead and paste all the Inn info from past patch notes:

Inn rooms, private areas for the use of players, have been added.

In each city, players are able to use an inn room after completing a quest issued by the NPC manning the front desk of the inn. Players must first complete one of Treasures of the Main, Souls Gone Wild, or Court in the Sands main quests in order to accept the following inn quests.

The Ink Thief (Limsa Lominsa)
Waste Not Want Not (Gridania)
Ring of Deceit (Ul'dah)
* Synthesis, repairs, and materia melding cannot be performed inside private rooms.



≪Inn Functions≫
Replay event scenes
In the inn, players may access a compendium called The Unending Journey which contains a list of completed quests. They can also select and replay event scenes from this list.

Rested Bonus
When player characters enter an inn, they go into “resting mode,” accumulating a rested bonus as time passes. Even after players have logged out, the rested bonus continues to accumulate up to a maximum limit.



When player characters are sufficiently rested, experience points earned through combat, synthesis, and gathering are increased by 50%.

Players continue to benefit from the rested experience points boost until a certain amount of experience points have been earned. The time remaining on the rested bonus is indicated by the experience bar.


For those running around Ul'dah, as of the most recent patch:

The entrance to the Hourglass inn in Ul’dah has been moved to the Merchant Strip (6,5).
 
Kagari said:
I think they've fixed it in a lot of ways already. With everything they've accomplished the last 2 years I can't see 2.0 being a disappointment.

As it is, I would recommend the game in it's current state for people looking to play.
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Thanks a lot for that! Sounds very positive. I haven't actually played the game (my computer won't run it) but have been following it closely. Hope Version 2.0 does work out so that I can play it on my ps3!

I wonder how SE will market 2.0 at the E3. Should be very interesting to watch.
 
Ok so I remade my character on Sargatanas. I'm glad that I am starting over. The tutorials are very helpful, and has made this game feel so new again to me. I'm loving how you can see the mining points and other icons on the minimap. I will be sending a /t to someone in the ls sometime.
 
Sorely tempted to pull the trigger on this, FFXI scratched an itch for me that I've never experienced with other MMOs. Be perfect for the summer since I'm only scheduled to be doing heavy labwork one day a week, although I was planning on playing other stuff now that I had the time...

Gah, this is a tough one.
 
DMPrince said:
not max setting. for some reason the fps drops oddly.

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Is someone stalking me and Eight ? .. oh wait its someone else.

Animekatt said:
Man I don't know what I should do... I would like to join the LS now, so I can have people to talk with. I'm just worried my name on Gungnir won't be available on that server. My highest level is only 11, so I can catch back up.
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You may want to hurry I don't think they are going to keep character creation open for Sarg for much longer.
 
Jinko said:
Is someone stalking me and Eight ? .. oh wait its someone else.



You may want to hurry I don't think they are going to keep character creation open for Sarg for much longer.
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Animekatt said:
Ok so I remade my character on Sargatanas. I'm glad that I am starting over. The tutorials are very helpful, and has made this game feel so new again to me. I'm loving how you can see the mining points and other icons on the minimap. I will be sending a /t to someone in the ls sometime.
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lawlz.
 
Reallink said:
I don't know, the NPC wanted 10k to repair lvl 48 belt and 5k for a lvl 38 weapon. Based on that, I'm assuming most gear mid 30's thru 50 was 5-10k+ per piece--times however many slots there are (10-15ish?).
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NPC repairs are kind of steep 1000 gil per level grade (so a lvl 41-50 item will cost 5k to repair) but it encourages you to either level a craft and repair it yourself or find an LS member or random person to repair it for you, they have added a 1 click repair system that will put all equipped items up for player repair now also.

Seemed like a pretty significant expenditure. If it degrades slow enough for that kind of cost to be a non-issue, then it sounds like it's probably slow enough to just drop the system entirely.
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Firstly gil is extremely easy to come by in this game its nothing like FFXI, and there has to be some form of death penalty, the game is already too easy, even WoW has durbaility lose on death.

Ultimately it's a question of does anyone really enjoy tracking down repair materials and constantly bugging friends/LS's to repair their gear--or worst yet, spamming shouts in towns?
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You no longer need specific repair materials, all repairs require the same item Grade 1-5 dark matter and they are extremely easy to come by.

For the vast majority of players, that answer is probably no. There are a hundred better ways to remove gil from the economy, and if they want people to craft, they should have created a crafting system that was fun and rewarding--not one they have to force players to do.
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The latest changes to the crafting system have made it much more fun, not everything should be handed to the player, there needs to be some challenge.

Not really sure what's going on with the Inn. The icon on the map leads to an NPC standing beside a door. He speaks gibberish in some made up accent, no idea what he says.
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Guess you started in Limsa if you didn't like Jibberish maybe you should have started in Gridania or Ul'dah :D (that being said you can get an INN room at any city)

It doesn't seem to be a lead of any sort, just standard throw away dialogue. I'm assuming there is a different NPC at some undisclosed location with a quest and/or some rambling dialogue that grants access to the inn at the first NPC. This really speaks to the larger issue of why they have lock everything behind an NPC, quest, or meaningless back story. Take for example having to locate and talk to NPC's to activate your achievement list. Seriously, WTF.
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The INN quest has one of the funniest cutscene/characters in the game, obviously if you don't spam enter and read what is said its kind of amusing and plenty of people enjoyed the quest line and asked for more on the official forums.

The map is a problem because it's position grid is dual numeric. This is great for people familiar with long/lat--not so much for your average joe who is simply going to guess at which is which and wind up at the wrong location half the time.
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The reason for this is because most area's maps are too big and the grid too large to be 26 squares 9 (A-Z), they said even in 2.0 with smaller zones and redesigned area's the maps will still be too big to add alpha-numericals to the map.

Maybe they've added somethings since (I didn't spend a great amount of time with the map), but it used to be lacking any type of zoom function or user created waypoints as well. It also scrolls horribly slow with the controller, not sure about m/kb.
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We will be getting all of that in 2.0, there is only so much the dev team can do, the team is basically split between two projects at the moment and 2.0 is taking priority.
 
Just started a new character if anyone is just starting out maybe we could run some quests together or something. I have got to level 7 or 8 a couple of times before but then my free trial ran out, Im hoping that it pulls me in a bit more this time.

Hopefully i can get hold of someone to join the gaf linkshell but im in the UK so maybe ill be on at bad times :(

Character name is Furious Mountain on sargatanas, dont really know what im doing but thats half the fun lol.
 
Mario007 said:
Thanks a lot for that! Sounds very positive. I haven't actually played the game (my computer won't run it) but have been following it closely. Hope Version 2.0 does work out so that I can play it on my ps3!

I wonder how SE will market 2.0 at the E3. Should be very interesting to watch.
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There will be a new trailer at least.
 
Calibrated said:
Just started a new character if anyone is just starting out maybe we could run some quests together or something. I have got to level 7 or 8 a couple of times before but then my free trial ran out, Im hoping that it pulls me in a bit more this time.

Hopefully i can get hold of someone to join the gaf linkshell but im in the UK so maybe ill be on at bad times :(

Character name is Furious Mountain on sargatanas, dont really know what im doing but thats half the fun lol.
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Respond in game!
 
Darte said:
Those experiencing slow framerates, UI slugginesh etc etc

Fixed in 2.0. What we have on atm is a band aid on something that needs surgery.
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I hope you are right... I am going to go ahead and pay for 90 days to get grandfathered in. I am a sucker for the FF brand and hope this game grows on me. I rolled on the GAF server (archer); I'm going to try soloing to get a hang of things and then maybe I'll join the guild (If they'll have me ^__^)

They must be very confident in their upcoming 2.0 if they expect people to pay $15/mo for it. Sure hope they can deliver.
 
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