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massoluk

Banned
Ok stumbled through, I thought i'd be unique at start off by selecting botanist. I thought this game is weird letting me attack with a pos stone throw. I didn't know until I'm level 8 botanist that I'm supposed to buy and equip some weapon instead of hatchet =0. No NPC mention anything in game...
 

gillty

Banned
Ok stumbled through, I thought i'd be unique at start off by selecting botanist. I thought this game is weird letting me attack with a pos stone throw. I didn't know until I'm level 8 botanist that I'm supposed to buy and equip some weapon instead of hatchet =0. No NPC mention anything in game...
Equiped Weapon = Class, if you want to level up botany you need to log trees.
 

Scythian

Member
I was quite interested in getting this, since all I've heard about the game and the changes being introduced.
A question about payment: Do you need a Securecode or Verified by Visa credit card? I tried getting into FF XI, but I couldn't play it because my CC because it wasn't enrolled in the "Verified by Visa" program, is it the same in FF XIV?
 

DarkKyo

Member
Err.. can someone explain this to me? I'm trying to buy 90 days and it says this before I confirm on the last step.

Period Length 90 days
Service Period May 11, 2012 - Jun. 9, 2012

Character
1 USD 3.00
Basic Service USD 6.99
Trial Period Discount USD -9.99
Total USD 0.00

First of all, May 11-Jun 9? That's one month... not 90 days....

Also, my total is 0 dollars? I'm confused. Is this just figuring the price for one month even though I chose 3 months? Halp >_<

Square has always been tricky when it comes to setting up accounts and stuff. They need to streamline this process like WoW if they want more people signing up...
 

kiryogi

Banned
I imagine the pricey is like that only for the first free month if its a brand new account.

While the setup I run on my 360 controller:

A: confirm
B: cancel
X: stance change
Y: macros
Select: world map
Start: main menu
LT: auto run
LB: macro shortcut menu
RT: targeting
RB: secondary macros
 

Rootbeer

Banned
can't figure out how to activate my 30 days free gameplay with the amazon download... if it actually comes with it?

i only see options to buy gametime...

never had this problem with an mmo before. the interface is truly horrible on their site.

hey Square-Enix... you know, WoW has been around for almost 8 years, you've had plenty of time to copy their great account interface.
 
I've been playing since Beta and plan to keep on doing so. I'm gonna reiterate that anyone who gave this up in Beta really needs to try it again if they have to opportunity, it's completely different.

On a side note, I still don't get how people find Tera to be fun. Tried it and was completely underwhelmed. PSO2 on the other hand is boss.

So...what is the recommended control scheme for gamepads (like the 360 controller)?

I use:

LS: Character movement/auto-run (click)
RS: Camera movement/first person (click)
D-Pad: Targeting/moving in Menus
A: Confirm
B: Cancel
X: Secondary Menu
Y: Main Menu
LB: Lock-On
RB: Draw Weapon/Tool (aka "Active" mode)
LT: Ctrl Macros
RT: Alt Macros
Back: Status (Such as buffs/debuffs, DoTs, etc.)
Start: Map
 

Whogie

Member
There's a default control button in the gamepad config screen. It's very much like FFXI's controls.

Targeting: D-Pad
Macros: Triggers
RB: Stance
LB: Auto Run
Start: Logout Menu
Back/Select: Status
Y: Submenu
X: Main Menu
A: Confirm
B: Cancel
 

Caelestis

Member
Err.. can someone explain this to me? I'm trying to buy 90 days and it says this before I confirm on the last step.

Period Length 90 days
Service Period May 11, 2012 - Jun. 9, 2012

Character
1 USD 3.00
Basic Service USD 6.99
Trial Period Discount USD -9.99
Total USD 0.00

First of all, May 11-Jun 9? That's one month... not 90 days....

Also, my total is 0 dollars? I'm confused. Is this just figuring the price for one month even though I chose 3 months? Halp >_<

Square has always been tricky when it comes to setting up accounts and stuff. They need to streamline this process like WoW if they want more people signing up...
This is why I am confused as well. I went though with purchase and now on one of their pages it says that they would charge me 29$ next time, but they are taking $3 off because I bought it in bulk, but the next billing period is next month. It's just weird. Also, if they are really taking this $9.99 off, would this month even count as one of the three. @.@

Edit- The only idea that comes to mind is that perhaps the first month is free which is why we see what you copied, and then in one month they'd charge all together for the next 90 days that you signed up for.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Having played the game now for a few hours with the newest patches... I can safely say that all the hate is unnecessary.

Cheers to Yoshida and his team... I didn't think they could do it, but they really have fixed the game according to the promises they made.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
When doing a fresh XIV install, dont you just have to download the most recent patch?

The whole process from a fresh install did not take a crazy amount of time. I'd say it's comparable to other older mmorpgs.
 

Teknoman

Member
Having played the game now for a few hours with the newest patches... I can safely say that all the hate is unnecessary.

Cheers to Yoshida and his team... I didn't think they could do it, but they really have fixed the game according to the promises they made.

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Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Finished the Court in the Sands quest and got my inn room. Time for a break I think.

But yeah... for people on the fence, the game is really good now. I'm enjoying it more than I enjoyed SWTOR, which was quite a bit at first.
 

Boss Man

Member
Luckily it's coming with version 2.0. I will probably mainly play on PS3 even though my PC is more than capable.
Just wish I could play now!

Well, that and my PS3 makes my living room hot so it's gonna be kind of annoying with an MMO up. I hope they add some new jobs with 2.0. This game is giving off the right kind of FFXI vibes now. Like, the good parts of FFXI made better and the shitty parts gone.

My only gripe is that they took the "Galka" tail off, lol.
 

gatti-man

Member
Finished the Court in the Sands quest and got my inn room. Time for a break I think.

But yeah... for people on the fence, the game is really good now. I'm enjoying it more than I enjoyed SWTOR, which was quite a bit at first.

It really is that much improved? thats hard to believe..... hmmmm i really still want to wait for 2.0. Dang it.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
It really is that much improved? thats hard to believe..... hmmmm i really still want to wait for 2.0. Dang it.

I absolutely could not get through the first quest originally... the game launched with very little direction in the way of doing things, and I didn't have time to simply wander around trying to make things work.

As it stands today, the game is really that much different. Tutorials, quest log, quest locator, improved battle system... it's really impressive to see how this game has evolved. I'm finding it very enjoyable and easy to get in to - especially as someone who rarely plays MMOs.
 

ZenaxPure

Member
Having played the game now for a few hours with the newest patches... I can safely say that all the hate is unnecessary.

Cheers to Yoshida and his team... I didn't think they could do it, but they really have fixed the game according to the promises they made.

Pretty much! I started a week or so before the patch that added job crystals and had a lot of fun leveling my archer to max (leveling a class to max level does not take long at all).

It's a shame the game had to launch the way it did but now it's pretty much on par with any other big MMO in most areas. Really just needs to make a proper PC UI (like 2.0 is promising) and it will be a great experience.

I hope the PS3 version brings new life to the game and SE can turn a profit on it eventually.
 

kiryogi

Banned
Having played the game now for a few hours with the newest patches... I can safely say that all the hate is unnecessary.

Cheers to Yoshida and his team... I didn't think they could do it, but they really have fixed the game according to the promises they made.

Lol what do you think the rest of us have been doing? Playing some horrible game?
 
I gave the game another go today as a brand new character playing as Conjurer and was enjoying myself from the two hours I put into it. I appreciate the little tutorials they added, and it looks like they added a lot of stuff since I played last. Things seem...much more polished and coherent. I think starting from scratch in a new starting city (Limsa Lominsa) with a non melee class was a good way to give the game another chance. And the sand in Uldah was really boring me.

Looks like I am gonna be playing this game a lot this summer. I have to finally play this game for real before 2.0 hits. I have had the game for quite a while, but it has never felt like something I would really want to play until recently. It seems like this is the best time as any to give it another honest chance.
 

Teknoman

Member
Lol what do you think the rest of us have been doing? Playing some horrible game?

Well at least this will...maybe stop some of the "lol just give up" or "this game is unsalvageable" posts that were hitting around last year. Of course on the other hand, this is probably a pretty unprecedented undertaking in the field of MMOs. But it wasnt like S-E was just going to let the game die, and i'm glad they picked Yoshi-P to take charge.

Also the community reps and devs are really helpful on the official forums:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forum.php

The threads can get kinda odd at times, but no where near as bad as some MMO official forums.
 
I absolutely could not get through the first quest originally... the game launched with very little direction in the way of doing things, and I didn't have time to simply wander around trying to make things work.

As it stands today, the game is really that much different. Tutorials, quest log, quest locator, improved battle system... it's really impressive to see how this game has evolved. I'm finding it very enjoyable and easy to get in to - especially as someone who rarely plays MMOs.
That's what I've been trying to say in the wiiU thread amongst all the hating. I had heard from people who have played it now saying that it has been greatly improved.
 
Finished the Court in the Sands quest and got my inn room. Time for a break I think.

But yeah... for people on the fence, the game is really good now. I'm enjoying it more than I enjoyed SWTOR, which was quite a bit at first.

Interesting, my SWTOR sub runs out in just under 3 months time so maybe i'll make the switch then and check it out
 

Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Grabbed off Amazon, installed patches, failed to remember two old Square ID's, set up a new one and game crashes upon boot. feelsbadman.jpg

Currently reinstalling latest ATI driver(even though I already have it), which according to the site that had the patches says:
Q. Every time I try to open the FFXIV client, it immediately crashes. What can I do?
A. This problem is being caused primarily by ATI video cards. Ensure that you have the latest drivers for your video card. This site should help you get started. If you do not have an ATI card, you should still check with your manufacturer for the latest driver. (Note: Do not rely on Windows to tell you that your driver is outdated.)
edit:

And still crashing, ugh.
 

Allard

Member
It's so nice to see all the great art finally get a good game behind it.

Anybody want to give me some list porn of upcoming 2.0 changes now that I've seen what they did to appease existing players?

Another nice list is here.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/38201-Coming-in-Version-2.0!

The bare essentials have been discussed plenty but to put the big stuff in focus.

*New Server Architecture designed with a more future proof design. This includes crisper inputs from player, worldless content systems (Think Dungeon Finder and PvP Warzones), and more systems that are considered standard in an MMO (Delivery between players, better world search options etc.).
*Alongside the new server they are scrapping and making two new UI designs for 2.0. One specifically for mouse and keyboard which will behave closer to a standard PC MMO design, and a new gamepad one designed to use more of a gamepads strengths then the current design. On top of this they intend to release the UI script using a form of Flash (At least that was the plan around the 2.0 announcement) to allow players to make their own UI using game information. Want to make a UI more reminiscent previous FF's? You have the tools to do it, want to make something else completely new? Its yours to do. That's the promise anyways, anything with visual elements will be allowed, botting likely won't obviously :p
*Completely overhauling all non-instanced world zones. Instead of 5 extremely large regions as one seamless zone they are splitting them up into multiple sub region zones with the intention of making new zones more unique and give more character. On top of this they are adding jump to mix and designing the new zones with this fact in mind. The only non-instanced areas not getting a huge overhaul is the cities. Alongside this they will add new areas unable to be accessed before in current (The city of Ishgard, a true beastmen Strongholds, as well as new zones unearthed by Meteor).
*A new graphics engine designed specifically for FFXIV, the current one uses crystal tools which was designed for single player console games and thus highly unoptimized for MMO play. Most notable is no no limit on players visible on the new engine and a proper dynamic lighting system which also casts proper dynamic shadows on geometry and not just NPCs.
*PvP Battlegrounds. Arena type (Players vs Players in coloseum like setting) and a faction vs faction vs faction battleground they are calling Frontlines. Its unknown if these will be ready right when 2.0 comes out.
*Guild and Personal Housing. Guild Estates first followed by personal houses. The houses can be configured and changed both inside and outside with rooms for expansion (Like gardens and a stable for chocobos)
*Chocobo Raising and addition of a new companion system with pets. You can train your chocobo to do a variety of things and it can fight alongside you. Heal, damage, tank whatever you train/raise it for. Yoshida alluded to an idea where you make a fat chocobo and maybe use it as a personal bank. You can have more then one chocobo.
*Eventually new classes and jobs.

Several of these are slated either when 2.0 launches or after it launches. Only the first 4 on my list have been explicitly stated as launching when 2.0 comes out, the others would either be there or at the start or phased in. There will be multiple updates to content with housing, and PvP as 2.0's content roles on.
 

massoluk

Banned
Ok, a bit more nitpicking... where are the quests? After that long chain quest of feeding the Kupo with that fruit, getting mask... the quests just disappear... I ran out of that sidequests daily quota and I don't have anything to do. It's so weird. In other MMO you get overloaded in your quest log since the noob area, here they're just... gone...
 

Buttons

Member
Ok, a bit more nitpicking... where are the quests? After that long chain quest of feeding the Kupo with that fruit, getting mask... the quests just disappear... I ran out of that sidequests daily quota and I don't have anything to do. It's so weird. In other MMO you get overloaded in your quest log since the noob area, here they're just... gone...

FFXIV does not have the "spamm kill quests to level" in the form that most MMOs do.

You have your daily quota of levequests, with 4 battle and 4 local ones added every 12 hours I think. They can accumulate up to 99. So if you are offline a day or two you can get more when you log back in.

Main scenario quests are every few levels and give nice gil and amazing cutscenes and story.

At lv23 (?) you can join the Grand Companies of a city and do those quests, at lv25 you can do the quests to permanently join one company.

There are also various sidequests around the world, which often have you travel quite a bit and are quite rewarding or witty with the interesting lore. Usually gives some equipment, gil and little XP reward. Sidequests are usually in 5 level intervals (5,10,15,20 etc.). You'll see a white ! above a NPC's head in town or at the hamlets.

Once you are recruited by a Grand Company, you can also enter the lv25 Raid Dungeon Totorak.

So for levelling just do your levequests that are available and then try and find a party to level with. :)

You can also do Behest once an hour, which is a sort of mini attack instance at each Aetheryte camp. 8 people can sign up, then team up together and kill mobs for a reward at the end. ^_^
 

Allard

Member
Ok, a bit more nitpicking... where are the quests? After that long chain quest of feeding the Kupo with that fruit, getting mask... the quests just disappear... I ran out of that sidequests daily quota and I don't have anything to do. It's so weird. In other MMO you get overloaded in your quest log since the noob area, here they're just... gone...

That's because they aren't like typical MMO quests. They are closer to some of the more old fashion MMO except they have the little exclamation mark above there head saying they got something. Quests give EXP, some items that may or may not be useful to you, maybe some gil and off you go. Unlike a lot of MMO's this game really wants you to participate in the world market to buy gear, so they don't have a lot quests that give out tons of gear, or tons of consumables, they are one shot affairs whose ultimate purpose is to get you more acquainted with the world. You get more as you reach levels in your class, specifically combat classes. Furthermore make sure you finish the first 3 nation missions and the first collaborative one when you get lvl 18 (I think that is the right level for that now, used to be 20) where you get access to Parley, then at lvl 20 you get a quest or two at your respective guild etc. Its not perfect and one of the promises in 2.0 is a significantly more streamlined starting experience, its better now then it was at launch but there is still a lot to do. Its sort of a finding game, they don't tell you where to find new quests, exclamation mark is all the marker you get that says "Look at me and see what I got".

For leveling use either leves, grinding, or behest for combat classes. Behest happens every 30 minutes on the hour and 30 minutes later at leve camps. They act like sort of a public leve where it scales around the highest level in the group or the minimum of the camp (often times 5 levels above the minimum lvl for camps leves. Consider the EXP from the sidequests something closer to supplemental EXP rather then what is needed to level.

In 2.0 They talked about making a more instanced 10 levels approach where you are locked into the class you start as till you finish that questline and get to lvl 10, and then you go to the appropriate guilds of the world unlock the other classes and talk to the leader to unlock access to that class. Besides the obvious traveling aspect of it (Get people out into the world to try new things) it opens the way for conditions to unlock new classes in the future.
 

Buttons

Member
Went from Driver 8.961.0.0 to 8.950.0.0 still crashing immediately.

Mhh, how odd. @.@ I'd say post on the official support forums but since you probably recently rejoined you can post there yet. :/ Anyone else have any ideas?

EDIT: Maybe it's the old Font selector error. Try this:

- Open the XIV Config Utility and open to the tab where you can set/change the in-game font.
- Check the "Use Windows System Font" box so that the font select scroll window becomes active. You'll notice that the first line value in the box is BLANK. This is the culprit - select any font from the menu and click OK. When it prompts you to save click Yes.
- Exit the utility program then reopen it. Go back to that same tab with the font selections, uncheck the "Use Windows System Font", save & exit. That should fix the problem.
 

speedpop

Has problems recognising girls
Tempting.. tempting.. I was looking forward to playing this during its beta stage and then everyone pointed at it and cried. Maybe if I find some spare time somewhere.
 

Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
EDIT: Maybe it's the old Font selector error. Try this:

- Open the XIV Config Utility and open to the tab where you can set/change the in-game font.
- Check the "Use Windows System Font" box so that the font select scroll window becomes active. You'll notice that the first line value in the box is BLANK. This is the culprit - select any font from the menu and click OK. When it prompts you to save click Yes.
- Exit the utility program then reopen it. Go back to that same tab with the font selections, uncheck the "Use Windows System Font", save & exit. That should fix the problem.
1st, I'm really thankful for the help. Any help is appreciated atm.

2nd, it had no "BLANK" value it was on MS Gothic, I still did what you said anyway which leads me to:

3rd, still crashing. :(
 

Buttons

Member
Mhh, I am not sure what else it could be. The only other time I saw something like this is when my friends GFX card was on the way out, he had the same crashes and it died a week later.

Maybe try lowering the settings to pretty low and then starting the game just to see if it does not crash? :eek:
 

Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Lowered all settings right after my 2nd immediate crash, have left them on their lowest since. Even disabled sound, tried running as admin, disabling desktop composition. This game is just not budging for me. For the record I can run the old FFXIV benchmark with no crashing whatsoever.
 

Buttons

Member
That's so weird, I checked all FFXIV forums and the tech forums on the official forums but can't find anything recent about ATI cards crashing. @.@ I'll continue looking.
 
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