notworksafe
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ask jlai to buy you one, he has a frys near his place
Me? Buy for y'all? Oh hail naw! That's my precious money.
Good shit, Cindi! You can finally practice what you need on stick.. Forever!
Good shit, Cindi! You can finally practice what you need on stick.. Forever!
DryEyeRelief
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the sf5 story mode talk and this thread on gaming general reminded me of this ultradavid tweet
Karsticles
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In DoA, Lisa strikes me as an Elena/El Fuerte hybrid.
Too frilly? It can't be frilly enough! :V
I definitely think SFV could be fine without a story mode or any single player content of any kind. However, if they were going to do that they should have gone full eeeeeee-sports and gone all in on the online aspect instead of half-adding it like I suspect they are. It really does feel like they are trying to hit all of the bullet points expected of a big retail release and competitive online game without having the budget to do either well, never mind both.
Cindi Mayweather
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DryEyeRelief
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That's the criticism. It isn't comparing stories. It's comparing experience. Your time with a game will never be as established as with a movie.
Cyber Caesar
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All this hate for story modes. Is Daigo becoming more popular than Ryu? This is the problem with the hardcore FGC.
Holy Order Sol
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DaiGOAT tho
Wait, what?
ShadowSoldier89
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Im not quite sure what you mean by established, but I find games to be the best story telling medium. I struggle to give a shit about books, movies, and shows, but with games and the interactive I get fully invested in the characters and worlds and just enjoy the stories that much more as a result. Due to this I'll take even a decent game story over an amazing story in another medium any day.
Its a simple question with a simple answer
Cyber Caesar
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Competitive worship is where it's at in the hardcore FGC. We have players who transcend the characters they play. Daigo is more popular than Ryu.
Holy Order Sol
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if this is a problem then I don't want it solved
RockTurtle
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is there any competitive endeavor where the constituents aren't the shining beacons as opposed to the sport itself nowadays?
NFL, just a bunch of faceless players wearing masks.
ShinMaruku
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Akuma killed his master and did something with his master's daughter.
Who you think Kazumi is?
Lostconfused
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Chess.
That's nothing new for fighting games at all. I doubt it's "hate for story modes." I'm sure people would like a good story for fighting games as long as the effort was there. Problem is, Capcom's previous doings within SF's story has been half-assed as best. For the most part, a fighting game lives or dies based on the community. Story or not.
Then I'll give a simple answer. I would rather have competent gameplay over a half-assed story mode. I don't want a half-assed story mode just to fulfill some quota. It would be nice to have a good story with great gameplay, though.
Kappa
Actually the answer was DaiGOAT but I agree with yours too
Cyber Caesar
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It's so much easier to say, I wouldn't mind a well put together story mode. I since hostility in your use of the word assed. Care to unpack that? Edit: Also why fear monger about a departure from genre best gameplay? Story modes equal less than competent gameplay? Doesn't compute.
People usually refer to NRS's story mode and single player content push vs their horrible online mode and a competitive game that they kept having new ideas about how to fix every other week.
call_kotaku
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unless you're just scrolling text past the screen like an anime game story mode/VN, making single player content for games is really expensive, and it's hard to justify the cost especially if it comes with cutting back on other things. There's a reason why half of all indie games are roguelikes or procedural or otherwise don't have stories, because that shit is expensive.
Cyber Caesar
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I suspected as much. This is misplaced hate for the rival MK. So Capcom with the creation of a story mode will slowly evolve into a western developer the likes of Ed Boon and NetherRealms forsaking almost thirty years of solid gameplay. Ok, I think I've made my case.
Fear mongering- the deliberate use of fear based tactics including exaggeration and continual repetition to alter the perception of the public in order to achieve a desired outcome.
notworksafe
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i think you made the case that you have no idea what you are talking about.
of course the knuckleheads saying story mode is "casual" have no idea what they are talking about either. so you're both even.
of course the knuckleheads saying story mode is "casual" have no idea what they are talking about either. so you're both even.
There was no hostility when I typed out "half assed." That was my honest assessment on how I felt about previous efforts in the past for SF's story. Nothing more. Heck, SF is one of my favorite fighting games period. There is no "fear mongering." That's just terrible.
I've said that I would greatly enjoy a fighter that had a good story mode to accompany the gameplay. That's something I wouldn't mind. However, if story mode is just stuff that cluttered together with barely any effort to show for it, then I would rather it not exist. If there's a story mode, I want honest effort made into it.
CountBlack
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Holy Order Sol
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you could have figured that one out from floe's stream tho
DryEyeRelief
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I mean set in stone.
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Cyber Caesar
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Enlightenment doesn't come easily.
ShinMaruku
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Just because Capcom never did story right does not mean that there is no place for a story mode if it is done well.
Also since story is something outside the usual demographics it could grow the pie. Now the question is do you trust Capcom?
Also since story is something outside the usual demographics it could grow the pie. Now the question is do you trust Capcom?
sf2fanatic
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I even went during week of xmas and it wasn't there. Only Tekken they had was 4 cabinets of TTag, a Tekken 6 cabinet and a monitor displaying matches from around the world.
call_kotaku
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What are you even talking about? who are you even talking to?
story mode can't melt steel beams?
Cindi Mayweather
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Lots of people in this thread are in favor of story mode. How are you throwing us all in the same pen?
Of course. I'll never disagree with that.
At the same time, I'm still kinda wary of Capcom. I would like to be proven wrong, though.
CountBlack
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Injustice had a good story mode tbh.
too bad about the netkode, I actually liked the game too
too bad about the netkode, I actually liked the game too
ShinMaruku
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Capcom is kinda like sega, you don't think of them as having story chops, but some of their work actually has some compelling stories.
So the capibility is there and it should be encouraged if nothing else to get different eyes on the game for more variety,
Holy Order Sol
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this is canon
sf2fanatic
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Notworksafe did you catch the episode yet?
I believe so.
call_kotaku
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there's like a 99% chance SFV story mode will just be arcade mode with a <60 second ending for each character
just like nearly every other fighting game since the early 90s
a lot of AAA multiplayer games don't have story mode anymore because it's too expensive. Even Titanfall skipped that shit, if anything it's a miracle COD and Halo still bother.
just like nearly every other fighting game since the early 90s
a lot of AAA multiplayer games don't have story mode anymore because it's too expensive. Even Titanfall skipped that shit, if anything it's a miracle COD and Halo still bother.
sixteen-bit
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kickstarter for story mode
$15K tier - final boss named after u
$15K tier - final boss named after u
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