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You just want people to hate the game?
That's about right. Sidesteps are good on single moves or at certain points in strings, especially at the end. Game should have less tracking, imo. Makes sidestepping strings almost pointless.
That move isn't very good on its own, but you can use it from pp to bait counters, and when they're stunned she's got a low and mid punch from it for mixups. It's okay if used sparingly.
A+B woulb be PK. DoA notation would be Free(F)/Punch(P)/Kick(K)
notworksafe
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Put Ultimate Controller in SFV
ayy lmao real talk thats the only way i can land flash kick fadc ultra 2 tho
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Deshiken vs Hayao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8unkFLZwpLo
RX vs MOV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMrYAK6i9YE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8unkFLZwpLo
RX vs MOV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMrYAK6i9YE
Lower execution barrier= less finger gymnastics fuss more mind games and whatnot
I figured he was the red one, but
http://i.imgur.com/Gx4sJb2.png
Out of Yakkun, Nitto, Kenzou, SHO, and Issei for the player names, I guess I should've put two and two together and realize that KO stood for Kenzou.
ShinMaruku
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She hits like a truck and you probably seen a high critical counter hit combo or throw with Rachel, some characters on high counter will take 35-45% damage. Characters I use do from 50 to 75% on high counter.
Alpha and Phase 4 baby, you land their hard shit your life is over.
There are 2 kinds of sidesteps there is free step and there are special commands that also side step, Marie and Christie are two who have that, side steps avoid most moves except moves that have tracking, you side step those they smack you, side steps also avoid blockables as well allowing you to punish.
shaowebb
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God DAMN Yuuki + Llenn assist is a combo machine in Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax Ignition. You already have a version of Terry Bogard's Power Dive that causes a bounce that you can follow up for full combo cancelled into AB attack, canceled into trump card + Lllen assist (Think Chris Machinegun MVC3), into dealers choice since once you activate Trump Card you gain more links and cancels between moves/strings/supers.
Just so many combos and with how long Llenn holds them in place with that machine gun they never drop out after the air portion letting me go for a second loop. Without Super or knowing what I was doing I was able to pull near 40 hit combos off this in the corner and all her shit corner carries!
Just look at the day 1 shit people are coming up with
^ that guy went with super and no assist and no jump cancel into air special stuff too!
Character is a machine and she builds mad meter to spend in those combos too. Check out what Advanced Yuuki can do
Just so many combos and with how long Llenn holds them in place with that machine gun they never drop out after the air portion letting me go for a second loop. Without Super or knowing what I was doing I was able to pull near 40 hit combos off this in the corner and all her shit corner carries!
Just look at the day 1 shit people are coming up with
^ that guy went with super and no assist and no jump cancel into air special stuff too!
Character is a machine and she builds mad meter to spend in those combos too. Check out what Advanced Yuuki can do
Oh, guess I didn't pay enough attention to the team names. I knew ahead of time from translated teams posted on SRK and recognizing him before they played their matches.
QisTopTier
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Dat strongest SAO character
Karsticles
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It's hard to find high level DoA play. :-(
Oh yeah, and it seems everyone plays DoA on pad - no stick. Truth?
What is "Free"? Is it "Hold"?
I'll take Rachel off of my "prospective mains" list, then, since I hate mirrors.
Based on what you know about me, what characters do you think I should be looking at?
Oh yeah, and it seems everyone plays DoA on pad - no stick. Truth?
That doesn't apply to removing charge times from moves.
Ah, so it's cancelable, which makes it potential for baiting where sidesteps aren't possible. That makes sense.
What is "Free"? Is it "Hold"?
I'll take Rachel off of my "prospective mains" list, then, since I hate mirrors.
Based on what you know about me, what characters do you think I should be looking at?
ShadowSoldier89
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I need to make a JP PSN account so I can download that Dengeki DLC
shaowebb
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No joke, all the Sword Art Online cast in this game are incredible.
I still think that Ro Kyu Bu's Tomoka is the most difficult fight in the game though. Her basketball catch state attacks are just insane wakeups that last forever and she beats out so much shit. Not sure if its all armor or what. Plus she is a powerful zoner and she has like half a dozen left right mixups as well as high low overhead mixups without assists all by herself! Seriously...if you get pushed to neutral or further its hell. She starts shooting passes and if you avoid the ball the rim falls on you. Its hard to read and if you do get her make it count because on wakeup she is a monster to try and hold down.
Tomoka is literally one of the best made character movesets I've seen in years.
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Tomoka. Not Tomoko. Okay then. Sorry, but I don't know anything folks are from in Dengeki, Aquapazza or Nitroplus really aside from Dokuro Chan and Durara stuff. I haven't even seen SAO yet. I don't in fact anime much at all...I do play their fighters though. It'd help if the names were in english in Dengeki for more than one or two screens
SquirrelSoup
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Tomoka.
ShinMaruku
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I find high level DOA play all the time because I move in those circles so it's not hard for me to find them.
It's called free because it has modifiers, if you hold it while moving you can side step, you do it with punch it becomes a throw, you do it with kick it becomes a special kick.
It's called free because it has modifiers, if you hold it while moving you can side step, you do it with punch it becomes a throw, you do it with kick it becomes a special kick.
Tomoka is meh though. Setplay tier but her buttons are kinda booty and the rest of her options are whatever outside of knockdown BS. Also wake up in DFC in general is poor unless you have an install loaded.
Her moveset is p cool though. I dig how she plays but it's DFC and she's on the weak end so n o p e.
Her moveset is p cool though. I dig how she plays but it's DFC and she's on the weak end so n o p e.
Anne, play ass fighter 4 with me tonight.
I guess you play the 3DS version then.
Well there is that new game Seth Killian is working on. I'd like to think that when execution comes into play, it becomes that more fulfilling and exciting to do it.
I guess you play the 3DS version then.
Well there is that new game Seth Killian is working on. I'd like to think that when execution comes into play, it becomes that more fulfilling and exciting to do it.
shaowebb
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Any tips vs Tomoka? If you don't thread the needle you get slowly pushed to the corner pretty fast then its hell getting around her grabs. Plus, I have no idea how to beat her wakeup outside of equipping the cat assist all the time or Llenn.
It's hard to find high level DoA play. :-(
That doesn't apply to removing charge times from moves.
Ah, so it's cancelable, which makes it potential for baiting where sidesteps aren't possible. That makes sense.
What is "Free"? Is it "Hold"?
I'll take Rachel off of my "prospective mains" list, then, since I hate mirrors.
Based on what you know about me, what characters do you think I should be looking at?
I use tons of characters in DoA since I've been playing so long. Don't worry about mirrors.
Hold and Free are the same, kind of interchangeable.
I'm not sure as far as a 3D game. Solid normals? Good pressure? What are you looking for in a character? I'm on discord if you want to have a real-time chat.
I'm a pad player and I use piano style with Tekken as well. But with SF I only use my thumb and use my index fingers for the shoulder buttons.
ViewtifulJC
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Wake up in general in DFC is pretty easy to deal with because resource-less reversals are p bad. The universal DPs have armor instead of invuln so you can cancel on contact to beat them. Trump cards have strike invuln but you can grab them, and some of them have p bad hitboxes. Invuln supers exist but resources. When I say installs are good, I mean trump cards that install. They get everything but grab invuln and pause the screen, really super silly.
Like I said, Tomoka's normals are butt and once she throws something out she's not doing much if you just wait it out. Just space her out and use the high amount of start up and recovery on her stuff to bully her. Only thing she has going for her is some annoying projectiles and setplay, and the annoying projectiles are whatever if you wait it out.
Just kinda how DFC goes tbh. Characters without the normals or approaches the top tiers have can get waited out and shut down. Since the game is so simple it's not hard to just dominate with basic stuff like buttons/output being up there. Vs Tomoka, if shit isn't already on the screen just run at her. If it is, wait then run at her.
I'm p sure my friends wanna queue CS tonight orz
skLaFarebear
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God damn at that Yuuki combo. 54 hits lol.
Guts ain't got nothing on my boy the real black swordsman
Guts ain't got nothing on my boy the real black swordsman
Nani? You wanna make data structures? What does orz mean?
CSGO, Counter-Strike, my bad.
I thought we already taught people what this means in this thread lol
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Gaf private room up in BBCPEX, pass is 123.
I guess we'll do winner stays on this time? I'd like to switch styles up since there are merits to both imo.
I guess we'll do winner stays on this time? I'd like to switch styles up since there are merits to both imo.
Lostconfused
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direct_quote
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How much time do you have left on your CS degree?
shaowebb
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So stop trying to get in that ass as Yuuki for a bit and wait till she opens herself up and cancel to avoid DP armor if I can read it in time? Sounds simple enough...I just gotta learn to read whether she is goin for the bounce pass left/right or the overhead and watchout if its either with an assist. I don't think she can chip me heavily or anything, but I'll need to be careful and practice how to block her. Definitely know that if she starts dribbling just let her go and air dash.
I really hope her bounce pass, and assisted basketball plays get copied somehow for someone in other fighters. The screen control they create is just great and that multihitting rim when it falls is pretty damned good at locking folks down.
Yuuki got any armored moves I should know about?
Cindi Mayweather
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Hey guys, we've got a USFIV tourney going later for us fighting game beginners. It'd mean a lot if some of you watched for morale support.
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I made a twitch.
http://www.twitch.tv/scrubgaf
The thread is here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1168431
Idk anything about Yuuki tbh, haven't got DFCI I just know how DFC works and I know what changes happened. When trying to armor cancel, you can literally just buffer in something that will only come out on armor cancel but gets eaten by your normal gatling string. A basic OS really.
shaowebb
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So in other words do a move you know has cancels if you suspect they are gonna go for an armored move and cancel it on principle. If it gets whiffed it wont cancel but on hit or block it will cancel and either eat their armor and go for the cancel into hits or it'll just turn into a solid block string.
Sound like AB moves would work since stuff goes into them pretty easily.
Ish. Do like 2A > 2A > (2A+B) > 2A > stuff. If you time it right, the gatling will come out on block cause of buffer and cancel windows, but if you hit armor and get that hitstop, the 2A+B registers and comes out and wins.
That's one way of doing it, you can do whiff OS stuff and other basic things. Making the universal DPs use armor makes them pretty shit because things like this easily work. Most players just understand the armored moves are pretty shit and avoid them.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but before, when Rachel knocked you down she would do a stomp on you while you're lying there and the last hit forces you to stand up and she got massive advantage on that.
Yuuki can one touch death you too. Ask Rhapsody.
Look at the letters and you will see a person down on his hands and knees with his head down. That's what orz means.
C'mon now, lol
Captain Rage Quit 69
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You guys think the Hori Commander 4 is worth getting if I'm tired of using the DS4's pad? It's on sale but I'm not sure just how worth it such a controller may be.
Of course, it'll get put to good use on my PC as well =3
Of course, it'll get put to good use on my PC as well =3
shaowebb
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So its sorta using armor to make it like those moves you can enter and then cancel out of before they ever animate. On block you can input 2A fast enough it'll cancel the 2AB. If they armored at the 2AB it'll continue to come out and not cancel into the crouching Light attack.Considering you can mash A for auto combos in this game like in UNIEL that crouching A can turn into stuff.
Just need to get good at reading Basketball chan so I can stop getting dunked on by her. Hard as shit for me to read her.
Can you push block Tomoka's basketball dribbling grab move? For that matter can you pushblock her if you are in block string from the basketball rim while she's attacking you simultaneously? If so I might spend half a bar for that to setup something.
We did indeed orz
Should wait for the upcoming MadCatz SFV pad if you're using it on PC. Having a touchpad makes it extremely convenient for PC gaming.
I wanna learn Counter-Strike, just need a good mouse and setup.
You wanna fite m8?
Well since its a master's and I plan to do research, got like 2 years left.
I'm not well versed with the interwebs, please spare me ;_;
Cindi Mayweather
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My guess would be either he might plink cr. hp with a kick input to get an additional input to count for the 5 kicks needed to do legs, or he uses the slide method, or both.
But that's just my guess.
SquirrelSoup
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I'm not sure why you'd want to. The dribble is her 5A+B, and those can't be cancelled into anything except trump on block and are very punishable. I don't think Tomoka's is any different.. ? So if you block it, make her pay.
Just mash your two kicks with the all three kicks button. If you don't want EX, slide your thumb back and forth on your pad between all three of your kicks. That's how I did it when I was learning Chun. Either that or ask grandmaster Vulva.
Once a game enters Legacy status and isn't an active game you're only hurting the playerbase since lapsed players can't jump in cold anymore.
This is why HD Remix's rebalance was such a bad idea - no matter how well it got balanced, it would still alienate all the people who liked Super Turbo.
Cindi Mayweather
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Huh?
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I think I found the key to becoming better at pressuring the opponent.
I've started going into training and setting the cpu to block everything. Then I try to mix up a bunch of short strings while using microdashes to stay close to the opponent (since blocking pushes you away).
Another thing I noticed is that with certain characters people will tend to do things like end on something like Ragna's 2A, 2B, or 2C then immediately attack again when they recover.
I guess the recovery is so short that you can catch people who think its safe to let go of block or throw out an attack if you end your block string on specific moves.
I've started doing the same with Noel and I've found some normals that fulfill the same purpose with her, which lets me do things like sneak in throws/overheads where as before I would just autopilot to doing 5B > 5C> 2C > maybe safe special every time the opponent blocked.
I've started going into training and setting the cpu to block everything. Then I try to mix up a bunch of short strings while using microdashes to stay close to the opponent (since blocking pushes you away).
Another thing I noticed is that with certain characters people will tend to do things like end on something like Ragna's 2A, 2B, or 2C then immediately attack again when they recover.
I guess the recovery is so short that you can catch people who think its safe to let go of block or throw out an attack if you end your block string on specific moves.
I've started doing the same with Noel and I've found some normals that fulfill the same purpose with her, which lets me do things like sneak in throws/overheads where as before I would just autopilot to doing 5B > 5C> 2C > maybe safe special every time the opponent blocked.
BumblebeeCody
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Street Fighter on 3DS has Flash Kick mapped to the touch screen.
Manz not see a Guile player do a walk forward flash kick, brah.
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