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don't like the filter going on that box

this will always will be the GOAT sf piece by Shinkiro

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Guile's head tho
looks weird af
 

Dahbomb

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He explained that pretty well with how he wanted the game to be easy and in doing so messed with the flow of the game.It' why Razors edge fixed many of the issues but the base game needed a full overhaul.

Also Karst be mindful the Marie and Lei have more than just the 3 point hold they have around 6 to 8 based of tsubaki's and offensive holds. Kokoro has just straight parries you must be mindful of, Hitomi has punch parries so a good Hitomi will be looking to get counters off that and then send your as right into the wall.
There were a lot of issues with the game beyond just them trying to make it easier.

Also he signed off on Ninja Gaiden Yaiba which further sent the series down the toilet.
 

ShinMaruku

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Capcom signed off on DmC which is to me equally a silly move. Thankfully I think both ideas won't come back. I just find it funny people gawk for Itagaki when he mad DOA4 and the devils thrid and except it for NGB which was the third revision don't by largely the same team that did NG3 >_>
 

BakedYams

Slayer of Combofiends
Their problem was taking place in the doc. Until then no one cared. It's like how GB will be the best at jojo since there's no competition to play with.

Vulva has no chill. This man must be stopped. I challenge you to a random all FT5.
 

BadWolf

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Capcom signed off on DmC which is to me equally a silly move. Thankfully I think both ideas won't come back. I just find it funny people gawk for Itagaki when he mad DOA4 and the devils thrid and except it for NGB which was the third revision don't by largely the same team that did NG3 >_>

If Ni-oh turns out good then Team Ninja is fine in my book, both in terms of fighters and character action.
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
jiro was a great doc

but you know what the best documentary is?

ALIEN

best movie of any category
 

Dahbomb

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Capcom signed off on DmC which is to me equally a silly move. Thankfully I think both ideas won't come back. I just find it funny people gawk for Itagaki when he mad DOA4 and the devils thrid and except it for NGB which was the third revision don't by largely the same team that did NG3 >_>
Capcom gets enough shit for DmC but the architect of that action was Inafune who isn't at Capcom anymore. Plus the game isn't even made by Capcom.

Itagaki is a has been as well. NGB took a ton of time to make and that shit doesn't fly these days so I am not even sure if he has it in him to make another great game again.

Thankfully that Ni Oh game looks decent. Hopefully they don't fuck that up too.
 
I havent played razor's edge, but he definitely fucked up NG3. Still, I always cared about DOA from team ninja more, and DOA5 was a giant improvement over every past installment in the series.

Itagaki was always an asshole, but ninja gaiden 1 and 2 were good games, though NG2 in its xbox 360 iteration was fucking stupid. The PS3 release went to far in the wrong direction, but it was still a lot more fun to play.

I had a shitload of fun with DmC. Great game
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
3S looks really sharp and nice via SFAnni on 360, i dislike the look of the portraits/menus/versus screen on OE
 

vulva

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Yo this seems like an incredibly unpopular opinion but I totally agree with you. that movie was fucking terrible, especially as a follow-up to alien.

It had nothing that made the original Alien great and ended up being a bland, uninspired, cheesy schlock action movie that was just a shit load of dumb exposition with no substance below it.
 
Oh yeah, so what's the rule on when you can and cannot counter mid-string? Like I noticed that Rachel's PPP, despite being a string, isn't actually a combo - it drops on the third P. That means it can be countered, but can the second P be countered?

I figure I would have to know rachel to help you at all...I played Kasumi a lot in DOA2/3/4/5 but havent played much last round. What I liked was that playing footies with kasumi was never a great plan, always was better off rushing in and forcing a reaction out of my opponent, a much more block string focused attack.

Id like to start playing last round, but im stretched so thin atm.
Even general advice is good.

Everyone counters mid kicks with forward hold. There are actually 4 basic holds in the game, 7H for all highs, 4H for Mid punches, 6H for Mid kicks and 1H for all lows.

Don't worry that got me at the start too.


Edit: Fuck double post, meant to put both posts in a single one.
Good to know. Has that changed since DoA2U? That was the last DoA game I spent a lot of time with (used Lei Fang and Tengu).

Yo Tambien.

Karst: I'll watch the vid after work and give you some feedback.

I just checked my own channel and realized I haven't uploaded any DoA vids since ultimate. haha
Thank you!

You don't remember his video of him playing donkey kong while the kid is screaming that he wants his dad? " Stop playin’ Donkey Kongggggg! "

The look of frustration and annoyance from his wife over the long drive?

The daughter saying that some people even ruin their lives to get in to the guinness book of world records? "Some people sort of ruin their lives to be in there."
Damn, they kept that in?

Aliens is one of the greatest movies of all time. I will not stand for this blasphemy. James Cameron dah gawd!
I was pumped for the Alien, but it looks like I'll have to stick with Sub-Zero: Crap Edition.
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
competition docs are the best. Shit like Hands on a Hard Body or Spellbound.


Alien is great though.


Aliens is pretty awful though :(

Yo this seems like an incredibly unpopular opinion but I totally agree with you. that movie was fucking terrible, especially as a follow-up to alien.
i like Aliens for what it is, it's wonky as a sequel to ALIEN because the tone is 100% different but i like a lot of the characters and there are some really terrific moments towards the end. the opening is sooooooo slowwwww which works for ALIEN because tension is really important to how that film operates but for Aliens, not as much imo

it also pales in comparison to either Terminator IMO

but i still like it
 

vulva

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James Cameron is the greatest blockbuster movie director of our time.

Aliens and T2 are GOAT action movies. Other action movies wished they could be as good as that.

T2 and T1 (and maybe True Lies) are all fine to good. You gonna sit here and tell me Aliens or The Abyss or Titanic or Avatar were good though? When the god awful far outweighs the good, it's hard to call them anything positive.



edit: @karst watch this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8JaDjZ6BV8

can't find the other one on youtube though
 

Dahbomb

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Oh yeah, so what's the rule on when you can and cannot counter mid-string? Like I noticed that Rachel's PPP, despite being a string, isn't actually a combo - it drops on the third P. That means it can be countered, but can the second P be countered?
The last hit of that PPP is definitely counter able although I have no idea how the string operates on counter hit. Same for the 2nd hit.

Pretty much anything can be countered by PP comes out pretty fast after each other so even if you could counter the 2nd hit it's hard to do so.

2 and T1 (and maybe True Lies) are all fine to good. You gonna sit here and tell me Aliens or The Abyss or Titanic or Avatar were good though? When the god awful far outweighs the good, it's hard to call them anything positive
They are all great movies because they do what they set out to do and capture the appropriate target audience. That's why I said he's a great blockbuster director because he knows what the people want and perfects that to the maximum which means providing the audience with well shot action sequences and a great sense of geography in his films. His worst movie of the bunch is Avatar and even that is a good blockbuster movie.

You may not like those movies but a lot of people do so maybe you just don't like those types of movies.
 

petghost

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zero appreciation for western style art in this thread

i guess i said i dont like the realistic stuff but i really like these. i think bengus did it but i dno.

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how can ya'll not guffaw at some of the dialogue in aliens tho...the conversations between the military folks are ridiculous.
 

Dahbomb

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Aliens is perfectly good on its own. Definitely a sizable cultural impact, The opening of Halo just feels like a huge homage to it https://youtu.be/lVcGjbuwlBs?t=1m55s
A good portion of Sci fi action games ape Aliens. From Starcraft to Halo.


how can ya'll not guffaw at some of the dialogue in aliens tho...the conversations between the military folks are ridiculous.
Some of the greatest and most memorable lines in movie history.

“We got nukes, we got knives, we got sharp sticks.”

"Game over man.. GAME OVER!"
 

vulva

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Oh yeah, so what's the rule on when you can and cannot counter mid-string? Like I noticed that Rachel's PPP, despite being a string, isn't actually a combo - it drops on the third P. That means it can be countered, but can the second P be countered?
The last hit of that PPP is definitely counter able although I have no idea how the string operates on counter hit. Same for the 2nd hit.

Pretty much anything can be countered by PP comes out pretty fast after each other so even if you could counter the 2nd hit it's hard to do so.

2 and T1 (and maybe True Lies) are all fine to good. You gonna sit here and tell me Aliens or The Abyss or Titanic or Avatar were good though? When the god awful far outweighs the good, it's hard to call them anything positive
They are all great movies because they do what they set out to do and capture the appropriate target audience. That's why I said he's a great blockbuster director because he knows what the people want and perfects that to the maximum which means providing the audience with well shot action sequences and a great sense of geography in his films. His worst movie of the bunch is Avatar and even that is a good blockbuster movie.

You may not like those movies but a lot of people do so maybe you just don't like those types of movies.

What are other examples of "those types of movies"? I like plenty of action movies and big screen spectacle stuff. I'd say for great action flicks someone like Carpenter has way better output, as an example. I just want to make sure I'm thinking in the same space though since I'm not 100% clear on what we're discussing that would qualify in that discussion.
 
A good portion of Sci fi action games ape Aliens. From Starcraft to Halo.

That's fair, but I meant that scene specifically, more than just borrowing ideas or concepts.

However my favorite Sci Fi/Fantasy movie is Fifth Element. Maybe because nobody ever did a really good mix of sci fi and fantasy since.
 

ShinMaruku

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Another thing about DOA that you must be mindful about countering is some moves 'jail' you, where you can't counter and you can punish not sure about slow escaping. Misty has 6pp Jailing when you are in handshake position.
 

Dahbomb

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What are other examples of "those types of movies"? I like plenty of action movies and big screen spectacle stuff. I'd say for great action flicks someone like Carpenter has way better output, as an example. I just want to make sure I'm thinking in the same space though since I'm not 100% clear on what we're discussing that would qualify in that discussion.
You mean John Carpenter the guy who made Escape from New York? I like that movie but come on now his movies got nothing on James Cameron's eye for action direction. Nothing he's got is as memorable as stuff like the Terminator 2 truck chase scene or even the final battle in Avatar.

When I mean those types of movies I am talking about stuff like Jurassic Park, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Die Hard or more recent stuff like Mad Max Fury Road or Casino Royale. That's what I mean by blockbuster action movies.

On the other end of the scale of that we have crap like the Transformers movies or Spider Man 3/Amazing Spider Man 2.
 
i guess i said i dont like the realistic stuff but i really like these. i think bengus did it but i dno.

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how can ya'll not guffaw at some of the dialogue in aliens tho...the conversations between the military folks are ridiculous.

I like this art. I just googled Bengus and Darkstalkers and Street Fighter and it's some really good stuff, especially Darkstalkers. I like it alot better than Shinkiro.
 

vulva

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You mean John Carpenter the guy who made Escape from New York? I like that movie but come on now his movies got nothing on James Cameron's eye for action direction. Nothing he's got is as memorable as stuff like the Terminator 2 truck chase scene or even the final battle in Avatar.

When I mean those types of movies I am talking about stuff like Jurassic Park, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Die Hard or more recent stuff like Mad Max Fury Road or Casino Royale. That's what I mean by blockbuster action movies.

On the other end of the scale of that we have crap like the Transformers movies or Spider Man 3/Amazing Spider Man 2.

Escape from NY was great, Escape from LA was pretty bad though.

And you can't tell me anything in T2 is better than anything in Big Trouble in Little China. I refuse to believe that's a serious statement.

Of those I fuck with Jurassic Park and Die Hard a fair bit. I'm fine with Star Wars and Fury Road and I'm okay with one of the Indiana Jones movies ( think it was raiders?). The rest definitely aren't my thing.
 
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