DryEyeRelief
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That's normal when it comes to talking about depth in a fighting game
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That's normal when it comes to talking about depth in a fighting game
One of the modded smash bros has it so you can take direct control of characters mid replay. I don't remember if it's a version of PM or Melee.
Cindi Mayweather
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Someone send my idea to combofiend.
Professor Beef
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Smooth Operator
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If you want to kill some scrubs, sure.
But against good players ? She's not easy to play at all.
MikeZ wanted to do it for Skullgirls but wasn't able to.
DryEyeRelief
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when doa5 was new, the first major to feature it was canada cup. Gamerbee, Fuudo and Tokido all signed up.
With those three it was a four man tournament total.
SquirrelSoup
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KI has that shadow mode or something?
CountBlack
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When's Cloud?
Juicebox_FGC
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Why SFV Priority Matters
http://pastebin.com/d3FvLY52
http://pastebin.com/d3FvLY52
Even with VF characters DoA is not VF
Cindi Mayweather
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Ok, but I'ma take credit for it
Don't care so long as it happens!
The Bryant siblings are not the same in both games?
Karsticles
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Eh. Most of the Xrd cast doesn't need to be there. IIRC, the following characters have little to no involvement in the plot, and are interchangeable:
Axl
Potemkin
Slayer
Zato
Millia
May
Chipp
Venom
I think it's a lot better now, but it could still use two major changes before it's a great game.
I suspect Blackule will like it more now.
The games are not the same
RIP 3D Fighters... unless its Tekken
SolarPowered
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Skullgirls would have been one hell of a fighter if it had Indivisible's budget.
Who are GG's zoners?
VF had more than tekken at Canada Cup 2015 ,':^)
that makes the game less deep if i can't mash. more like Nodepth Fighter V, boooring
Karsticles
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Axl
Dizzy
Testament
Maybe Zato.
All of it is "zone to rush" in typical ASW fashion, of course.
I ain't worried!
CountBlack
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America free in DOA as well whew
Phantasmal Repose
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There's also Justice.
Karsticles
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She has that missile, but I thought it was to cover her approach like I-No.
Phantasmal Repose
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direct_quote
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I play Seth and Yun so I'm screwed. Where's my dive kick character? Cammy doesn't count.
ViewtifulJC
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he said mid tier
Cindi Mayweather
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Too advanced for me to understand any of this!
Ouch
grow up
SolarPowered
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Ah, okay then. You've got the right understanding of how ASW does zoners.
tl;dr if you mash a light in SFV there's a higher chance a medium or strong button will beat it.
You're honourary Toronto at this point, so thanks for defending my great city
ShinMaruku
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America is free in everything except shit it never boasts about. Although, let's be fair US is much better at DOA than SF where the top 8 will only have 1 Yank.
Uh, I wasn't being malicious. What gives?
ShinMaruku
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Karsticles
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I figure he means you are better than mid tier. At least, I think you are.
I used to really dislike their approach, but it grew on me as I grew to prefer zoning over keep away.
I learned something new, and would now love Justice in the game.
Wtf @ Cliff's intro?
ShinMaruku
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As somebody lower than low tier I gain the most with this transition. :E
ViewtifulJC
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nobody has a bigger chip on their shoulder than VF fans b.
SolarPowered
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Welcome to the dark side. Too bad I'm not in sync with everyone just as ASW games became somewhat more popular.
CountBlack
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tbh
4 matches online in 7yrs ;_;
I should probably clear myself before people start coming out of the woodwork thinking I am putting them on blast.
When I mean mid tier player I am talking about mostly the online only SF4 player who has high points but usually gets beats if they go to a local. They thrive on beating the people who don't know much about the game or have put in less time than them. These are the online Ibukis who are godlike when they get the knockdown but not so much when they don't. They know set ups, they know OSes and they have execution even very specific character match up knowledge... in fact it's the stuff they spend the most time refining because that's what gets them a lot of their wins online. However a lot of this minute stuff won't carry over from game to game and all the muscle memory and habits they built up playing SF4 may not carry over to SFV.
They will have to spend a lot of time unlearning their habits. That means unlearning crouch tech, pressing crouch lights, wake up DPs, FA back dash on pressure, knockdown timings, plinks etc. While they unlearn that they have to learn whatever the dominant strategy in SFV is going to be so they will be at a slight disadvantage starting out.
The low tier SF4 player never bothered learning this stuff so they have less muscle memory and habits to get rid of. The better than mid players know all the stuff the mid players know but they are better at that level because you can't coast by on SF4 specifics at that level... everyone at that level knows that stuff. So at that level you need something extra like mastery of spacing and adaptability to win which are more universally applicable attributes to have in a fighting game.
That is why top players who have always been good at fighting games will be good at SFV as well. If you go to tournaments and you do decent at tournaments then you will do well in SFV as well. However, if you do well just in online SF4 but not so well offline... well then you will have some growing pains in SFV ( especially if the netcode is up to snuff).
Just my opinion, no one needs to feel that I am putting anyone on blast.
When I mean mid tier player I am talking about mostly the online only SF4 player who has high points but usually gets beats if they go to a local. They thrive on beating the people who don't know much about the game or have put in less time than them. These are the online Ibukis who are godlike when they get the knockdown but not so much when they don't. They know set ups, they know OSes and they have execution even very specific character match up knowledge... in fact it's the stuff they spend the most time refining because that's what gets them a lot of their wins online. However a lot of this minute stuff won't carry over from game to game and all the muscle memory and habits they built up playing SF4 may not carry over to SFV.
They will have to spend a lot of time unlearning their habits. That means unlearning crouch tech, pressing crouch lights, wake up DPs, FA back dash on pressure, knockdown timings, plinks etc. While they unlearn that they have to learn whatever the dominant strategy in SFV is going to be so they will be at a slight disadvantage starting out.
The low tier SF4 player never bothered learning this stuff so they have less muscle memory and habits to get rid of. The better than mid players know all the stuff the mid players know but they are better at that level because you can't coast by on SF4 specifics at that level... everyone at that level knows that stuff. So at that level you need something extra like mastery of spacing and adaptability to win which are more universally applicable attributes to have in a fighting game.
That is why top players who have always been good at fighting games will be good at SFV as well. If you go to tournaments and you do decent at tournaments then you will do well in SFV as well. However, if you do well just in online SF4 but not so well offline... well then you will have some growing pains in SFV ( especially if the netcode is up to snuff).
Just my opinion, no one needs to feel that I am putting anyone on blast.
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