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[notworksafe]

Shoot prediction: Xrd will be there and get an 8am Sunday timeslot. People will then pretend the game matters enough to get something better, most likely complaining about Marvel 3 or Melee at the same time

 

[QisTopTier]

Shoot prediction: Xrd will be there and get an 8am Sunday timeslot. People will then pretend the game matters enough to get something better, most likely complaining about Marvel 3 while they do it.

It gets morning because that's what ASW wants

 

[Dahbomb]

Birdie buffs eww.

 

[notworksafe]

It gets morning because that's what ASW wants

Like that's gonna stop anyone from throwing their tears at Wizard's feet

 

[MrDaravon]

lol

It gets morning because that's what ASW wants

Yeah, isn't it a better time for Japan if it's in the morning? Always heard that, but even if true I don't know that if that's legitimately why they schedule that way or if it's just a convenient excuse.

 

[vocab]

lol buffs on laura HP. She feels like a one button character at this point.

 

[notworksafe]

If Marvel isn't at EVO that's gonna result in some fuckery for sure.

 

[Dahbomb]

lol



Yeah, isn't it a better time for Japan if it's in the morning? Always heard that, but even if true I don't know that if that's legitimately why they schedule that way or if it's just a convenient excuse.

So many people killed Marvel it's looking like a Caesar assassination.

First Chris killed it, then KBR then Floe.

 

[MrDaravon]

I don't think there's any way that Marvel doesn't make it at least one more year, but oh my lord the salt would be amazing if it didn't.

 

[skLaFarebear]

lol

lmao

 

[Tripon]

The 8/9AM pst slot isn't better for Japan. It's like 1AM/2AM jst in for Japan.

And that didn't stop EVO from putting Persona on Friday night, which according to this logic, EVO would make sure it would get af least Sat. Morning.

Tournaments put Xrd at the morning because they can.

 

[Tornix]

What games are you currently playing? Out of interest.

Xrd mainly, but I play Uniel, +R and KoF98UM/XIII on the side.

I'd rather they exclude either Marvel or SF4 to make room for another game this year.

 

[Dahbomb]

I am mentally prepared for this to be the last year for Marvel 3 (as long as American wins it). It had an excellent run despite extraneous circumstances. Next year we will have more FGs that would need the spotlight.

 

[SolarPowered]

I am mentally prepared for this to be the last year for Marvel 3 (as long as American wins it). It had an excellent run despite extaneous circumstances. Next year we will have more FGs that would need the spotlight.

What else would there be if SF4 is gone, T7 isn't a multi year Capcom lock and KI or MKX don't come back (one of them is bouncing)? There are KOF XIV and a second anime game from ASW as options. Doesn't seem like an overflow of games at all.

 

[irfaanator]

ultradavid has a new fortnightly editorial on redbull esports
http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/stories/1331772942217/ultradavid-talks-fgc-awards-2015

I remember when ultradavid used to post on gaf

 

[pixelish]

I remember when ultradavid used to post on gaf

yeah, i missed seeing his avatar getting spammed around on gaf

 

[Karsticles]

Cross post from the Beta thread.

Some changes were posted on Shoryuken going into Beta 4.

Few chars:

(?) - Means he wasn't sure

Can you post Bison? SRK is blocked at work.

 

[pixelish]

Can you post Bison? SRK is blocked at work.

here

M Bison/Vega (Dictator)
Forward Throw - Stun 150 -> 170
Back Throw probably had change but data not available
V-Reversal - On block -3 -> -2
V-Skill - Upper body hurtbox reduced significantly during startup. Head area hurtbox reduced during active
Critical Art - Last hit (?) damage 260 -> 270
5MK - Damage 70 -> 60, hurtbox retracts 1F sooner
5HP - Hurtbox moved backwards during later recovery frames
8HP - Hurtbox expanded downwards
8HK - Hurtbox moved downward
Psychoblast (all except EX and VTrigger) - Hitbox expanded in width
Double Knee Press (Scissor Kick) All non-ex versions - Juggle Potential reduced (?)
VT-Headpress - In counterhit state 2F longer (?)

 

[Beckx]

Throws mostly buffed across the board.

 

[call_kotaku]

marvel will stick around forever. The franchise needs to be represented and even though it's a specialist game at this point those specialists are too vocal and too influential for the game to get the anime game treatment. Outside of a C&D from Marvel or a vs. game sequel it will stay at EVO til only 8 people play it.

 

[Tornix]

Throws mostly buffed across the board.

I'm perfectly fine with this

 

[Tripon]

Throws mostly buffed across the board.

Thank god. I like to throw people.

 

[notworksafe]

Throws mostly buffed across the board.

Perfect

 

[pixelish]

Thank god. I like to throw people.

don't say that in public! now everyone will label you as a scrubby throw spammer

 

[CountBlack]

lol buffs on laura HP. She feels like a one button character at this point.

Could link into st.LP now I believe that's her 3f normal.

 

[irfaanator]

Could link into st.LP now I believe that's her 3f normal.

yup, which leads into light shoulder lol.

 

[Karsticles]

here

Thanks!

It looks like they want Bison to use his V-Skill as an anti-air now? It was useless for this before.

WTF @ nerfing both of his jump attacks.

Psycho Blast potentially fixed.

Psycho Inferno still pure garbage.

 

[ShinMaruku]

Sony and Capcom should insist on sfv only to free up space for others and a recalibration of the player base. Can't have the same folks need growth and mixing.

 

[Tripon]

don't say that in public! now everyone will label you as a scrubby throw spammer

People have sent me voice message and PMs on PSN about my throwing. I was working on Kara throwing with Ryu and Ken, so they might have a point. Ha-ha.

 

[QisTopTier]

Cammy

5LK - On block +0 -> +1

LOOOL

 

[CountBlack]

yup, which leads into light shoulder lol.

I wonder how much use this will actually have. If you're hitting someone with the st.HP you'll probably get more damage cancelling into the medium/ex version tbh.

 

[Thomasorus]

I am mentally prepared for this to be the last year for Marvel 3 (as long as American wins it). It had an excellent run despite extraneous circumstances. Next year we will have more FGs that would need the spotlight.

Since Capcom is developing a new fighting game we will probably have a MvC replacement in one or two years.

 

[SolarPowered]

I remember when ultradavid used to post on gaf

GAF gotta up it's 3S game to get him back in here. #kappa

Sony and Capcom should insist on sfv only to free up space for others and a recalibration of the player base. Can't have the same folks need growth and mixing.

What others? This EVO could have three distinct American scenes, two Smash scenes, SF WW scene, an anime game and 3D with 8 slots. That is without including SF4. Any loss that isn't a 3D game would barely hurt diversity.

 

[Tripon]

Since Capcom is developing a new fighting game we will probably have a MvC replacement in one or two years.

You say this, but part of the service model has companies assuming that the current game can be supported for years and there is little to no need to diversify in a current genre.

P

 

[NEO0MJ]

You guys are missing the obvious. Pokken is coming to EVO! Why else would they implement LAN and give it its own custom wired controller?!

Justin Wong won it, so you have a point of comparison for how dead that game was

.

Well, for the first few years Justin was always at the top of SF IV and you know how that went later

 

[Horseress]

Since Capcom is developing a new fighting game we will probably have a MvC replacement in one or two years.

Are they?

 

[Thomasorus]

You say this, but part of the service model has companies assuming that the current game can be supported for years and there is little to no need to diversify in a current genre.

P

Not if you can have two games not cannibalizing themselves as a service model as they are different enough and have different public. Marvel didn't killed SF4 and the opposite is also true.

Are they?

They are recruiting new blood for a fighting game since December. The MvC formula is a pure USA game where the US wins and MVC3, despite his flaws, is still played. There is nobody using the MvC formula except for a few doujins. Not diving into this opportunity would be stupid.

That's just my opinion but a new Marvel vs Capcom / Capcom Fighting All Star seems the most logical thing to do now that SF5 production is done.

 

[notworksafe]

Are they?

And it's being paid for by MS and only available on X1

 

[Beckx]

I haven't kept up to date (like, at all) on what weeklies are still streaming regularly & which ones to watch for SFV. Are there any that plan to focus on SFV in the post-launch period?

Not if you can have two games not cannibalizing themselves as a service model as they are different enough and have different public. Marvel didn't killer SF4 and the opposite.

That's not what I read on the Internet!

 

[Horseress]

And it's being paid for by MS and only available on X1

They are recruiting new blood for a fighting game since December. The MvC formula is a pure USA game where the US wins and MVC3, despite his flaws, is still played. There is nobody using the MvC formula except for a few doujins. Not diving into this opportunity would be stupid.

Agreed

 

[Warxard]

And it's being paid for by MS and only available on X1

Can't wait for Darkstalkers vs Killer Instinct

 

[call_kotaku]

how much appeal would a non-licensed VS game have, though? I always felt the Marvel half of MvC was responsible for most of its appeal in the US

 

[Nyoro SF]

Not if you can have two games not cannibalizing themselves as a service model as they are different enough and have different public. Marvel didn't killed SF4 and the opposite is also true.



They are recruiting new blood for a fighting game since December. The MvC formula is a pure USA game where the US wins and MVC3, despite his flaws, is still played. There is nobody using the MvC formula except for a few doujins. Not diving into this opportunity would be stupid.

That's just my opinion but a new Marvel vs Capcom / Capcom Fighting All Star seems the most logical thing to do now that SF5 production is done.

They've been on and off with their new team fighting game for the past 4 years. I heard rumblings from E3 insiders about it this past year. I hope they have something to show for all of this haphazard scheduling

 

[Clawww]

Like that's gonna stop anyone from throwing their tears at Wizard's feet

nothing the stops the tear train

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Shoot prediction: Xrd will be there and get an 8am Sunday timeslot. People will then pretend the game matters enough to get something better, most likely complaining about Marvel 3 or Melee at the same time

so, are you going to argue that marvel gets more players than xrd.

 

[CurlyW]

Actually, now that I think about it, I wouldn't be completely shocked if Pokken is in. Only like 45% shocked.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Actually, now that I think about it, I wouldn't be completely shocked if Pokken is in. Only like 45% shocked.

out of all the random games I tried while I was in japan, Pokken was the worst

 

[BlizzKrut]

Kinda hoping they ditch USF4 but something tells me they won't.

 

[NEO0MJ]

out of all the random games I tried while I was in japan, Pokken was the worst

It's really sad to hear bad impressions about that game. I really wanted it to be good.

 

[notworksafe]

so, are you going to argue that marvel gets more players than xrd.

No I'm going to argue that it gets more views in person and online and that Xrd wouldn't get the views Marvel does if it was in Marvel's timeslot.