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Fighting Game Headquarters |2| 0-2 vs Community
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Lostconfused
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Would it still have cross play with PC?
TvC wasn't a flop. According to Sven it met sales expectations.
The game's success could be attributed to the thirst for a new Marvel, much like how HD Remix was successful cause people wanted a new SF.
sixteen-bit
Member
dem Laura amiibos
Karsticles
Member
The only reason I DIDN'T buy TvC was the Marvel announcement. The real king had returned.
DryEyeRelief
Member
What does that even mean? Not much of a flop?
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
People want the VS game engine in something. I don't think that Saturn game or the Fighting Jam count really to me.
I do think it will sell less without the Marvel IP. But what people are saying here is they want that VS gameplay in a different shell.
I hope they do it. I love the core marvel engine and I think it would do better than TvC on PS4/Xb1.
I do think it will sell less without the Marvel IP. But what people are saying here is they want that VS gameplay in a different shell.
I hope they do it. I love the core marvel engine and I think it would do better than TvC on PS4/Xb1.
I enjoyed TvC for what it was and had no regrets.
I am saying it would've done better if it was on PS3.
Karsticles
Member
I just want Capcom to keep making 3 kinds of games:
Street Fighter
Darkstalkers
Marvel
I play at a desk and I have an office chair where you can lower the arms.
Karsticles
Member
Always on my lap.
lap is the most comfortable for sure.
Yeah, I need something like that. Hmmmm.
Lostconfused
Member
Standing desk, so I just have it sitting on the desk. It's actually not absolutely perfect because the sticks designs place your hands a bit higher compared to keyboard and mouse. But it's not too bad I think.
Place a small coffee table or whatever between yourself and the desk to place the stick on?
Professor Beef
Banned
Got 4th place at my local in Smash 4. I also called Animal Crossing a shitty game, and the way people reacted you would've thought someone threw a chair lmao
I use a standing desk at work, but I don't have one in my tiny ass apartment.
I have a nice TV, but the input lag is a bit too high so I can't really play fighting games on the couch. Such is life.
EDIT: My TV is rated as "great" on displaylag.com at 26ms. Do you guys think this is too high to play fighting games on with any level of seriousness?
Karsticles
Member
I don't even know how people can respect Animal Crossing. I permanently lost respect for Reggie when he referred to it as a "core game".
notworksafe
Member
He isn't wrong. It's a game traditionally bought and enjoyed by gamers and it requires you to boot it up and play it daily to get the full experience.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's a chore simulator. I got REAL chores I can do instead of pretending to do them.
DryEyeRelief
Member
have you tried playing on the floor?
Lostconfused
Member
It's 1 frame of lag, it's not perfect but not too bad. Everyone says that input lag is just something you get used to on your set up and it's fine, you'll just have to get used to your own weird timing.
It's only going to be a problem when you are using someone else's set up with a 0 frame display lag, like at a tournament.
It's not even 2 frames, so you should be fine. Assuming you could find a TV that was 16ms or less (1 frame) it's hard to see why it would be worth the money.
yeah but think of how many "core" games are chore simulators basically, from World of Warcraft to Assassin's Creed.
Lostconfused
Member
You could buy a monitor, it's cheaper than an arcade stick. I am obviously not advising it, but I mean considering that FGC is "hardcore" and "demanding" enough to have the "absolute best equipment". Reducing the input lag to what would be considered optimal with a relatively small expense is not ridiculous to consider.
Karsticles
Member
I hardly put it in the "game" category.
This. And walking around and developing a digital non-community is odd.
SolarPowered
Member
You make it sound like we've been getting a steady supply of DS style games since 1997. I love VSav, but I can't help laughing to myself a little because the games that try to borrow from it in any amounts seem to be crapped on the hardest. SFxT and SG were ripped to pieces in their own ways. Can't wait to see what walks into the meat grinder that is the FGC next.
You just got up and dissed AC? I wish I were there to see the reactions.
Animal Crossing GC was my first exposure to that type of game and I fell in love with it. I can't blame it for Nintendo's out of control Wii era hubris. They were on another planet at the time. Luckily they fell back to Earth with Wii U.
notworksafe
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This is irrelevant to the discussion. It is a game no matter what your personal feelings.
We agree. It's just that you have constant trade offs until you start spending real amounts of money. Lag v image quality etc. etc. I've got a $200 BenQ that's supposedly no lag but I bet image quality purists would have a thing or two to say about it. To me the picture is great and the response is great but people have way different tolerances for trade-offs.
Animal crossing is a core game. You check the demographics of who is actually playing video games and its filled with people who play FPSes, Fighting games, mobas, etc. That the series also has massive crossover appeal doesn't mean that it doesn't have a massive hardcore base as well.
Professor Beef
Banned
I mean a literal chore simulator. Instead of cleaning my virtual house and dealing with jackasses and the occasional cool person, I can do that IRL. I'd rather play AssCreed 3 again then play Animal Crossing for more than an hour.
The exact conversation went like this:
Friend: So why do you always ban Smashville?
Me: Because Animal Crossing is a shitty game.
Everyone at the stations around us: WHOA.
I think I heard someone say "YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE" too.
Lostconfused
Member
Yeah but that applies to like absolutely everything. "Fidelity" is a very expensive thing to chase. Getting to something that's good enough isn't that bad though as long as you know what you are looking for.
Here is a monitor http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ITORMDC/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_gw2760hs.htm
This should get you 0 frames of lag and a excellent color quality for around $200. The ghosting seems to be average?
Edit: I'll admit that I actually use this monitor at home my self, mainly because I don't have the $1000 or more I'd need to get one of the more recent variable refresh rate displays.
shaowebb
Member
Got bored with circling through the fighters I got and Xmas and played some more Arcana Heart 3 Love Max the other day because I missed Dorothy's insane projectile and setup game.
I got bored and tried a new Arcana with her...WATER.
My God...that increased hit stun and shit just laying on the screen absorbing hits for me. Just so many more combos and the additional hit/block stun meant that I can take an already ridiculous pressure setup character and pressure folks even more. Pretty awesome I can use the waterfalls to dunk people back to the ground where my cards are stuck in the floor too. If I see them land near them after getting dunked I fire off a few more so that once I get 5 cards out they make a "hand" and pop off the ground+ give me random extra attacks on top of that in case they make any genuine poker hand.
Cannot emphasize enough how incredible that added stun feels with Dorothy. She's got multihit twirly moves with her cane, a scrooge mcduck Pogo move,the ability to slide trap cards along the ground under them that shoot multiple projectiles if you pass over em, a TRIPLE Akuma air fireball that sets up trap cards and a zangief like lariat move with a spiral of cards she summons on her and with that Arcana its reaaaaaaaally bullshit to abuse that stuff on them
My God do I always feel amazed at this game's potential every time I play it. I really wish Examu's Arcana system would get swiped for something non-anime/waifu oriented.
I got bored and tried a new Arcana with her...WATER.
My God...that increased hit stun and shit just laying on the screen absorbing hits for me. Just so many more combos and the additional hit/block stun meant that I can take an already ridiculous pressure setup character and pressure folks even more. Pretty awesome I can use the waterfalls to dunk people back to the ground where my cards are stuck in the floor too. If I see them land near them after getting dunked I fire off a few more so that once I get 5 cards out they make a "hand" and pop off the ground+ give me random extra attacks on top of that in case they make any genuine poker hand.
Cannot emphasize enough how incredible that added stun feels with Dorothy. She's got multihit twirly moves with her cane, a scrooge mcduck Pogo move,the ability to slide trap cards along the ground under them that shoot multiple projectiles if you pass over em, a TRIPLE Akuma air fireball that sets up trap cards and a zangief like lariat move with a spiral of cards she summons on her and with that Arcana its reaaaaaaaally bullshit to abuse that stuff on them
My God do I always feel amazed at this game's potential every time I play it. I really wish Examu's Arcana system would get swiped for something non-anime/waifu oriented.
This is amazing / I love it.
Karsticles
Member
Animal Crossing stages are the worst. Zero good music for a fighting game.
My usage of the words "keep making" was intended to refer to a future tendency I want to see, not the status quo.
Well, I consider myself core, and I don't give a shit about Animal Crossing. Not a fan of Reggie's false enthusiasm in general. Feels like he's trying to sell me organic food.
AC has all the chores but none of the work though. It's why things like Viscera Cleanup Detail are so popular
Professor Beef
Banned
I'm just glad that I beat the game/saw the end credits so I can safely put the game behind me.
...that's his job though
...that's his job though
On my lap, this rap4 has a rubber thingie for my legs in case I'm just in my underwear and feel like playing
Bruh cmon kapp'n song is legit
notworksafe
Member
Once again irrelevant to the discussion. Plenty of core gamers don't like fighting games, or strategy games, or FPS, or whatever. That doesn't make the those games not "core".
Also complaining about company man propping up company products shows all of this is going over your head in the first place.
I am imagining you saying this while playing Villager
notworksafe
Member
Organic food would be a step up based on some of the shit you eat, Karst.
Karsticles
Member
There are a lot of company men propping up company products. Reggie is just terrible at it. I don't hate all the PR guys. A lot of them feel like they're members of the community. Reggie feels alien, like he doesn't get it.
I'll still never consider Animal Crossing to be a title aimed at core gamers. It may be popular, and it may be time-consuming, but that doesn't make it core.
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