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[Lostconfused]

I know you didn't enjoy your time with sf5, but did you enjoy this game when you were playing it?

Maybe? I think I had like 400 or something matches when I stopped. My character choice frustrated me because it's probably not the right pick despite how easy he is. I definitely remembered getting upset playing ranked though, lobbies were a much better experience especially when you could get a longer set with someone.

So I hope that's an answer somehow.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

hmmm, I should still be alright at P4U

 

[mbpm1]

- V-Trigger range is shorter than it looks and against characters like Sim and Nash if you're slightly out of range when reading a fireball they can teleport behind you for max damage because the V-Trigger has no hitbox behind him

One thing I noticed is the vortex seems to have actual travel distance. As in, the further you are away, the longer it will take before they get sucked in. Maybe it's just me though :|

Honestly it seems the Birdie matchup is way worse for Gief than Sim. That matchup seems impossible to me but it's still early so maybe some tech will be found down the road.

I think a bad Birdie is easier to beat than a Decent Sim but a good Birdie is trouble

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

What is the difference between v trigger and v reversal?

 

[BadWolf]

What is the difference between v trigger and v reversal?

V-reversal is the alpha counter.

V-trigger is the fancy activation mechanic.

 

[Smooth Operator]

People don't like dealing with zoning

Or he just sucks apparently

Nah, i even think that Gief is way too good atm. Just look at his frame data + the range on his normals.

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

Alpha counter?

 

[RockTurtle]

v-reversal = COMBO BREAKER

 

[Nightii]

Alpha counter?

You block, you input a command and hit back, resetting the game back to neutral, usually.

 

[BadWolf]

When blocking you either push 3 kicks or 3 punches (depending on your character) and forward. This uses one V-meter bar and counters the opponent through the block. A get-off-me move basically.

Similar to guard cancel blow back in KOF.

 

[QisTopTier]

v-reversal = COMBO BREAKER

Uh, did they change how it works? Because if not this is super wrong

 

[SolarPowered]

They are using rejects from other games, world warriors cast and middling at best new characters.

Are you talking about Birdie, Mika, Nash and Karin? Aside from Birdie they seemed like winners based on how many times I encountered them in the beta.

Classic characters being inconsistent on who got redesigned (either mechanically or visually), garish bottom-of-the-barrel Alpha rejects and iffy aesthetics for the newcomers.

Eh, if it weren't for the Alpha characters I probably would have forgotten the game until a year or two after release. If someone has played SF for more than a decade and still doesn't main a WW then odds are they wouldn't now.

Nash and FANG gonna make me that money y'all

F.A.N.G is one of the only characters that makes me yearn for other people's rage. I might use him just to collect salt.

I'm going to be disappointed if White Sim doesn't make it in.

Necro is never going to happen.

#kappa

V-reversal is the alpha counter.

V-trigger is the fancy activation mechanic.

I'm glad it's so easy to use. DP motions while trying to stave off Sasquatch or Q.Bee are hell on Earth to me.

v-reversal = COMBO BREAKER

Bursts are so never happening in a numbered Street Fighter title.

 

[Nightii]

Somebody post the Bishamon Guard Cancel comic, please. It always brings a smile to my face.

 

[RockTurtle]

Uh, did they change how it works? Because if not this is super wrong

that's how i see it :/

like a ghetto combo-breaker. that can miss. and be nullified.

 

[SolarPowered]

Somebody post the Bishamon Guard Cancel comic, please. It always brings a smile to my face.

Fuck meterless guard cancels.

 

[QisTopTier]

that's how i see it :/

like a ghetto combo-breaker. that can miss. and be nullified.

combo breakers work on hit. This is blockstun only

 

[Infinite]

What is the difference between v trigger and v reversal?

V-trigger is depending on the character, a unique move or state that you can activate once the vmeter is completely full. You activate it by pressing both heavy buttons and doing so depletes the vmeter. You build the vgauge when you get attacked or land your vskill.

Vreversal depending on the character, after is a counter or escape move that you can activate during block stun to escape pressure. It comes at the costs of one stock of the vmeter and you perform it by pressing either all 3 punches or all 3 kicks. Vreversals that are attacks only do recoverable damage to the opponent.

 

[SolarPowered]

that's how i see it :/

like a ghetto combo-breaker. that can miss. and be nullified.

Using a V-Trigger bar only to get my reversal baited is going to cause some salt overloads for sure.

 

[jerry1594]

Fuck meterless guard cancels.

umad?

 

[SolarPowered]

so mad

Master Asia himself couldn't make me saltier.

 

[Nightii]

Great, now I'm missing Baiken again, I love Guard Cancels so much...

 

[Rocwell]

Sup guys.

I come bearing video from the last beta. Here's some matches of me playing Laura.

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5 (Featuring K.Sabot, Smug and more)
Bonus match with CubanoLoco's Vega

Spoiler

that I forgot to put in part 5

And here's a couple Laura tech videos showing some stuff you can do with her thunderclap projectile.
Meaty Fireball setups
Ex fireball shenanigans

 

[mbpm1]

Can you counter a V-reversal or does it always come out

 

[Fraeon]

What am I looking for, specifically?

https://twitter.com/LiquidNuckleDu/status/693989498208796672

Du got dined and dashed on.

 

[Rocwell]

Can you counter a V-reversal or does it always come out

You can throw them out of their v reversal or if you think your opponent is antsy to do one just don't even give them a chance by putting them in block stun and go for the throw.

 

[mbpm1]

I was mostly wondering if I could put in a sequence of jabs, than cancel into an armored running grab and go through the v-reversal. Or parry the v-reversal

Probably not but still

 

[Fraeon]

Are blocked V-reversals how punishable? Do you get a free st.HP/HK every time or does it differ between characters?

I always forget the V-reversal is even an option.

 

[Rocwell]

I was mostly wondering if I could put in a sequence of jabs, than cancel into an armored running grab and go through the v-reversal. Or parry the v-reversal

Probably not but still

I dunno sounds plausible to me, you can probably test it out pretty easily in training mode.

Are blocked V-reversals how punishable? Do you get a free st.HP/HK every time or does it differ between characters?

I always forget the V-reversal is even an option.

They're negative on block but usually not punishable. IDK Laura's v-reversal is like -2 on block I'm not really familiar with the frame data on everyone else's

 

[mbpm1]

Are blocked V-reversals how punishable? Do you get a free st.HP/HK every time or does it differ between characters?

I always forget the V-reversal is even an option.

I thought they were around -6 or something at worst.

I dunno sounds plausible to me, you can probably test it out pretty easily in training mode.

I know, but that feeling when no beta :|

 

[jbug617]

Fanatiq is back

BigENec: Desmond William Pinkney vs Fanatiq Riley ft 15 at WBX. MVC2

 

[Holy Order Sol]

I thought they were around -6 or something at worst.

many of them were made -2 on block in the latest beta because stupidity

 

[mbpm1]

many of them were made -2 on block in the latest beta because stupidity

Well I guess it is supposed to get you out of trouble

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

combo breakers work on hit. This is blockstun only

v stuff was reminding me of blazblue a lot, counter assault and overdrive

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Well I guess it is supposed to get you out of trouble

shit should get you bodied if baited and blocked

also they should have given everyone both an evasive one and a strike, next year pls

 

[pizzacat]

I've been contemplating just rebuying a PS3

Had GGXrd
TTT2
CvS2
3rd Strike
Alpha 2???

And now with p4a being free? What's like the cheapest PS3 online

 

[jbug617]

EVO decided to have the bowl seats to be open and the floor seats will be assigned
https://twitter.com/EvilMrWizard/status/694610810035789824

 

[Beckx]

I didn't try V-Reversal all weekend, kind of forgot about it really. (I mean, I thought of it when getting bodied repeatedly in the corner by every Necalli I faced, but by that point it was too late).

What are the detailed timing mechanics (when does it become usable, what to watch for, etc.)?

 

[Beats]

If you're curious about how Pokken works I stumbled across these two threads explaining the system/game mechanics:

http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/30/pt-system-mechanics
http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/177/game-mechanics-pre-console-release

They have some overlapping info, but still worth checking out both.

 

[Coda]

I wish V-Reversal could KO. I want to KO opponents with R. Mika's stunner.

 

[Rhapsody]

I wish V-Reversal could KO. I want to KO opponents with R. Mika's stunner.

Please. Please no Alpha 2 days lol

 

[Bizazedo]

EVO decided to have the bowl seats to be open and the floor seats will be assigned
https://twitter.com/EvilMrWizard/status/694610810035789824

Boooooo.

 

[BadWolf]

I didn't try V-Reversal all weekend, kind of forgot about it really. (I mean, I thought of it when getting bodied repeatedly in the corner by every Necalli I faced, but by that point it was too late).

What are the detailed timing mechanics (when does it become usable, what to watch for, etc.)?

It costs one block of the V-gauge to use.

Do it while blocking an attack.

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

I've been contemplating just rebuying a PS3

Had GGXrd
TTT2
CvS2
3rd Strike
Alpha 2???

And now with p4a being free? What's like the cheapest PS3 online

Don't go cheap. Find an original 60GB with backwards comparability. PS3 is definitely worth having forever. I get so much use out of it.

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

EVO decided to have the bowl seats to be open and the floor seats will be assigned
https://twitter.com/EvilMrWizard/status/694610810035789824

That's the opposite of how it should be. Floor seats should be unassigned and bowls should be assigned. Do you really want an empty floor for most of the games? It will be a huge hype deflater.

 

[Sayad]

Don't go cheap. Find an original 60GB with backwards comparability. PS3 is definitely worth having forever. I get so much use out of it.

An original 60GB model with backwards comparability is a bad idea if keeping it forever is the plan.

 

[Beckx]

It costs one block of the V-gauge to use.

Do it while blocking an attack.

I know that, based on the discussion above I was looking for more detailed info, like can you use it at any time from when you first go into block animation until block stun is over, what prevents you from using it, that kind of thing.

Sorry for dumb. (&#12484

 

[vulva]

lol

https://twitter.com/winnerstayson/status/694597370961592326

WinnerStaysOn
‏@WinnerStaysOn
@WTHamad @DopeBoyPackz @FGC_Bigbird I asked a simple question but if you want me to punch you in the fucking mouth we can do that

 

[JeTmAn81]

If you're curious about how Pokken works I stumbled across these two threads explaining the system/game mechanics:

http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/30/pt-system-mechanics
http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/177/game-mechanics-pre-console-release

They have some overlapping info, but still worth checking out both.

Does Burst Attack take you out of Resonance mode or can you use it multiple times?

 

[QisTopTier]

Lol

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

An original 60GB model with backwards comparability is a bad idea if keeping it forever is the plan.

I still have mine.