Phantasmal Repose
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Yeah, those are some rough matchups. I suggest checking out the Bedman's matchup threads on Dustloop for some tips.
Gotta catch 'em all. Darkstalkers.
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Yeah, those are some rough matchups. I suggest checking out the Bedman's matchup threads on Dustloop for some tips.
Gotta catch 'em all. Darkstalkers.
...You know, I really should learn not to underestimate Nintendo.
Cartridge memory limitations are a bitch.
I thought the issue with characters getting cut in VSav and VSav 2 was more due to CPS2 RAM/ROM limitations more than anything. I think Capcom would have put everyone in VSav 2 if they could have, at the very least. Similar reason why so many backgrounds were cut down when going from SF3:2I to 3S as they needed the ROM space for extra characters.
ViewtifulJC
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enjoy your ban son
Holy Order Sol
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lmao
Indeed.
Oh well, if only they would have sacrificed Queen-B, Lilith and Felicia instead...
DryEyeRelief
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You obviously aren't. But I think it makes more sense in more volatile games like Persona.
" if only they would have sacrificed Queen-B, Lilith and Felicia instead..."
wants Fuerte back
bruh
Smooth Operator
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Personal taste, how does it work, right?
You just want to watch the world burn, that's okay
The EVO scholarship is a scam? Come on, I know the folks who run the whole thing and MrWizard has no involvement in deciding who gets to go in. They look at the applicant's history within the FGC and see if they merit the scholarship. Also, they go to the Game Center at NYU Poly, which is considerably the cheapest out of all the schools, the master's program charges around $30-40K a year depending on which classes you take. Also, its been out for more than 3 years at this point with previous no names winning it but once someone they recognize wins it, they go with their pitchforks saying they don't deserve it. Skisonic is taking classes weekly and is a really chill guy, willing to play with anyone and talk about fighting games.
Will be interesting to see how no chip death affects zoners. Their entire game plan might have to change once their opponent is on their last pixel of life. If the zoner decides to just stay away and keep zoning regardless, it could lead to time outs and such. I don't see how it couldn't be interpreted as a comeback mechanic though (if it doesn't end up being a particularly potent one).
Professor Beef
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Karsticles
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Here's ~2 hours of me playing Bison during the beta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJtbDtyQ_Ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJtbDtyQ_Ns
That's why Bison gets 2 good mix-ups in V-Trigger, and Dhalsim's teleport is so good.
ShadowSoldier89
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in case anyone is wondering, Japan is going well for me
Juicebox_FGC
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The no-chip system isn't good or bad, just different in an interesting way.
Here are the notables:
- If you have "no life" but are trying to rushdown a DP character, you can now actually threaten with a meaty and don't have to make it whiff
- If you have "no life" you can still get in without jumping or going crazy against a fireball character
- if you have "no life" you can still play the clock, there is no immediate need to force a game-winning scenario
- You can still chip kill at the cost of ALL OF YOUR METER. This is expensive, but this also means that you can die in a similar fashion to previous street fighters i.e. you cannot block a cancellable normal.
- Character with grab supers cannot chip kill, but they can now combo into their supers (I don't believe this has even been done in a Street Fighter outside of focus crumples)
Here are the notables:
- If you have "no life" but are trying to rushdown a DP character, you can now actually threaten with a meaty and don't have to make it whiff
- If you have "no life" you can still get in without jumping or going crazy against a fireball character
- if you have "no life" you can still play the clock, there is no immediate need to force a game-winning scenario
- You can still chip kill at the cost of ALL OF YOUR METER. This is expensive, but this also means that you can die in a similar fashion to previous street fighters i.e. you cannot block a cancellable normal.
- Character with grab supers cannot chip kill, but they can now combo into their supers (I don't believe this has even been done in a Street Fighter outside of focus crumples)
Rice-Eater
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I feel kind of embarrassed to admit this, but man I finally and truly get all you guys that hate on SF4 for all it's annoying and randoms aspects. Don't get me wrong, I agreed with many of the complaints about SF4 but I didn't truly understand until I played another SF and grinded it out. SF4 isn't my first SF, but I guess that doesn't really matter when all I've ever done in the past 17 years I've been playing SF and Capcom fighters was pick a shoto, do special moves, and did jump kick sweep as a BNB before SF4 came out.
I have to say, it was a really refreshing experience grinding out the beta and getting a really good feel for how this new SF is going to be like. A lot of the randomness and old tactics are gone from SF4 and I honestly don't miss it at all. I don't think SFV is perfect, I still have a number of things that I want to see changed. But instead of being fearful of SFV, now I'm very excited about it.
I have to say, it was a really refreshing experience grinding out the beta and getting a really good feel for how this new SF is going to be like. A lot of the randomness and old tactics are gone from SF4 and I honestly don't miss it at all. I don't think SFV is perfect, I still have a number of things that I want to see changed. But instead of being fearful of SFV, now I'm very excited about it.
Rice-Eater
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Doesn't Alpha counter negate this?
The ps2 anthology doesn't have all the stages? It has all of the characters.
Juicebox_FGC
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1) do they have any more V-meter? Maybe they used their V-trigger already.
2) V-reversals are not guaranteed to hit. Off the top of my head, if you V-reversal my normal but I cancel it, my super might actually -hit- depending on the specifics. Cammy's super is a good example.
The first two weeks of a game launch is always exciting. Figuring out tech, tournaments, crazy bugs, ect.
sf2fanatic
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Drooling.. I miss places like that.
Holy Order Sol
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Wasn't me, but I doubt I could beat CountBlackule the way I currently play anyway.
(also I'm in Europe we'd most likely get nothing but a teleport-fest)
Juicebox_FGC
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Here's some great information on V-reversals, looks like they can absolutely be baited and punished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHlZnnRaPic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHlZnnRaPic
Half my beta is silky smooth, and the other half is random Netherlands players
Capcom needs to censor that
I believe alpha counters can be baited and punished if they do it to jump in attacks. I've had it where someone alpha countered an air attack and then I command grabbed him. The other time I just neutral jumped afterwords and did a full punish on it.
That LoyalSol guy is an Akuma player in SF4 whos always posting super long annoying wall of texts on SRK.
So in SFV they have those charts with terms like "Aggression" and "Defensive" and "Offensive"
Do those mean anything or are they just flavour? I see them come up after every match
oh, that's who that name reminded me of
Do those mean anything or are they just flavour? I see them come up after every match
oh, that's who that name reminded me of
SolarPowered
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You know... I never believed that there were people out there who bought playboys for the articles, but if we can stomach the art for mechanics anything else possible. Arcana really is too inventive and too good a fighter despite how it looks. I got it on Steam day one, but I don't really have anyone to play with, so it doesn't get much play and I can't really get good at it. ;_;Yeah, Arcana Heart sure could use its shit to be less anime girl fetish oriented. If its aesthetic was the poster child for the FGC no one would want in unless you were idgaf about all art and only cared about the mechanics of the genre. I'm pretty die hard on the the genre, but even that isn't enough for me at times because occassionally I just have to put the game on mute for all the "hyaaaaaaan" shit they spout and take a break to play something a little less heavy handed with it.
Why couldn't this anime fighter have had like a mecha theme or some shit instead so folks could enjoy its mechanics without so much fanservice and tropey jank. Just replace the girls with fucking Gundams, Mazingkaiser, or even Overman King Gainer or something... ;_;
Style hyped for Minori though.
I'd play the fuck out of this if there were an uncensored steam version.Just got curious who the blorpy moe meat tentacle character Saya was in Nitroplus Blasterz Heroines Infinite Duel so I looked up the game she's from.
O_O
Saya no Uta
Lets see...main character had agnosia or something and sees the world covered in gore and everyone as monsters...except Saya who IS a monster.
-Eats human flesh and digs it
-All endings either involve everyone dying, or the world ending.
-close friend gets brain damaged rapes saya
-you get committed to mental world
-saya decides rape slaving another friend and turning her into monster would help spice up the romance. Main character digs it
-babies
You know...for the holidays and such its the perfect romantic comedy with moe the whole family can enjoy.
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THE FUCK IS THIS!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToYTPeZrzuY
When I saw it I told myself I have to play it one point a few months ago. A regular from the VSav GGPO lobbies sold me on it when he told me how fucked up it gets. Wish you'd spoiler'd some stuff, though.
People who don't play BB or SG aren't going to play them just because of an art style change. They've got their SF, KOF or MK that they've been into for years and nothing is going to sway them. Just look at the way GG and BB players have been with one another and that is between fanbases for the same company. We'll never see the Capcom crowd adopt something like an anime fighter just because the anime part is sterilized. Obama will sooner appear on live television and declare his undying love for his favorite waifu.I'm not certain Skullgirls would feel so fresh without Alex's stuff to be honest. Its hella divisive with folks but it really comes across in the game the personality of the artist and the characters.
As a player though, I'll always pine for good playing games to be more in the artstyle I love. Its just a thing. I get the feeling folks would have been bigger on Blaz Blue had it looked like KI or something. I know if Rachel had a flaming skull for a head and looked Marvel it'd been a big plus for at least one dude here
We all have our tastes and we're a fairly western board.
I wish UNIEL had been released on Steam for the holiday instead since I'm pretty sure that my laptop could run it. It's probably the anime fighter I've been dying to try most for the last couple of years (It'd be GG, but no Anji or Baiken means I'll hold onto my dollarydoos).
That or it'll cause salt overdoses when several chip attempts fail and you lose a game you'd normally win in most other fighters.
ASW will forever be their own ball and chain.
Can't wait for PC mods that remove the background characters. Having everyone act like clowns is not good BG character design.
Same here
After so many years of SFIV I'm really ready for something fresh from SF.
I think ASW will be the stream darling of the year, but their release strategies, delay based netcode and lack of crossplay will continue to hold GG back.
I stuck with Ryu for the three ranked matches I played on the beta (Karin and Mika weren't available yet), but it felt like I was using a midget. Dude's normals were ridiculously short. Karin's normals felt pretty good in comparison, but the game crashed before I could take her for a spin online.
That'd be interesting. It's crazy and not lopsided enough to work.
Still waiting for changeable delay settings pre-match. Someone fly Mike Z to Japan.
Too bad because Hunter had some beautiful stages.
YES!The mecca
Melty, Skullgirls, Vampire Hunter, Cyberbots, BB and all sorts of stuff you'd struggle to find in a single room anywhere in America.
You have no idea how cathartic this is after all those years I've seen you arguing with people about SF4 here on GAF. It's not the worst fighter ever, but people really put it on a pedestal when it's not even exceptional as a SF title, let alone as a fighting game in general.
CountBlack
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Rashid's theme is what MDMA sounds like
RASHIDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ThatCrazyGuy
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Meh, sf4 is an exceptional sf and fighting game. It aint perfect and has alot of flaws, like many a game. It just happens to be a popular one (within the small fg niche) and gets the bigger microscope.
Saya no Uta's great. For anyone that doesn't mind a dark story or 18+ stuff, definitely check it out.
I finished that VN in a whole day lol
Glad you're having fun!
I finished that VN in a whole day lol
Glad you're having fun!
Rice-Eater
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Hmm, I've defended the game but I don't think I ever made claims like it was the best, just that it was my favorite. And that could change in time with SFV since I really like it so far. I really will miss a lot of things about SF4. Seeing the insane stuff that top players can do with all the tech, reads, and shear craziness really made the game amazing to watch at high level. But like it's been said by many people, that was SF4 and this is a new game and it doesn't need to include all or any of the stuff that was present or introduced in SF4.
That being said I think the jury is still out on how fun it will be to watch the game. I thought the Pre-Capcom Cup tournaments were pretty good, easily the best I've seen from SFV to date. But still pale in comparison to high level USF4 tournaments IMO. I hope that changes in time because I really want SFV to blow up and take that next step in the Esports Arena(we're using that word from now on instead of "competitive gaming", right?).
You're at A-Cho in Kyoto right?
how the fuck you check it out though? vn's seem so hard to come by in translated or easily purchasable form.
Lostconfused
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It's on sale, digitally or even physically I think through one of the few companies that translate or localize visual novels for the west.
KidA Seven
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Yubiken released pools for the SFV tournament that should be streamed in about 24 hours. http://yubiken.challonge.com/sf5_1st
Notables: KSK, Ino, Dashio, Jinetta, Haneyama, Ikatsui Yarou, Akimo, Xie, Hagejin, Santarou, OGTY, Cojiro, Tonpy
I'm not really expecting high level as it depends how much they've played the beta. I know Cojiro played a lot of the beta as well as Ino. Not sure about the others.
Notables: KSK, Ino, Dashio, Jinetta, Haneyama, Ikatsui Yarou, Akimo, Xie, Hagejin, Santarou, OGTY, Cojiro, Tonpy
I'm not really expecting high level as it depends how much they've played the beta. I know Cojiro played a lot of the beta as well as Ino. Not sure about the others.
Saya No Uta actually got an official translation for the west.
here is ultradavid doing commentary over a long MOV vs Kuroda 3s set. its very cool and i hope he keeps making more of these. kuroda's makoto is so rad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwrjU4wsoy0
awesome imma try to get it then. also really wanna try ever 17 some day because 999 and vlr are some of the very few vn's ive played and i loved them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwrjU4wsoy0
awesome imma try to get it then. also really wanna try ever 17 some day because 999 and vlr are some of the very few vn's ive played and i loved them.
Not sure about stages, but the PSP release had all the characters and you could pick any version of the character, even if they didn't exist in that game.
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