I should walk that back a bit. That's my speculation of requiring a DS4 to be tied to the stick.
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I should walk that back a bit. That's my speculation of requiring a DS4 to be tied to the stick.
Wait, so to get the trophies it has to be tied to the controller you're using at that moment?
What??
E: Oh, speculation. I was going to say how would that work, because that would make it sound like arcade sticks are Amiibos.
I don't even know what to say.
Smooth Operator
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It's a sad day for the FGC Markman, i wish you the best !
*puts on tinfoil hat*
As him or against him?
Smooth Operator
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Cindi Mayweather
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Fighting games are dying, guys!
Shut up.
Valentine's day is over and this is how you talk to your girlfriend?
QisTopTier
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You saw the message, it's not like he got any anyways
He's lashing out at a sour valentines day now.
Professor Beef
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You saw the message, it's not like he got any anyways
MAN DOWN
MAN DOWN
You saw the message, it's not like he got any anyways
Leave Yams alone!
You saw the message, it's not like he got any anyways
Lostconfused
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We are never getting Maxi Boost on consoles
Professor Beef
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Minus doesn't work anymore, Yams. Another L
Professor Beef
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So T7:FR is quite possibly the last arcade game Namco is making? Damn. And if the owner of the top two grossing games in Japan can't justify further development, that is one ugly look. At this rate, in a year or two all that's going to be left are card and music games.
Their future guidance is also a huge L -- they basically expect significant shrinkage from arcade games and Yokai Watch with no real growth possibilities to back that up. Yikes.
Cindi Mayweather
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Things are getting weird.
But for real, where's the evidence fighting games are diminishing in popularity in Japan beyond Namco cancelling games? Maybe it has merit? I'm not sure.
But for real, where's the evidence fighting games are diminishing in popularity in Japan beyond Namco cancelling games? Maybe it has merit? I'm not sure.
Cindi Mayweather
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What about Tekken x SF?!
call_kotaku
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lots of arcades are closing and that industry is definitely on the decline in Japan, and that's been the main platform for fighting games there.
Cindi Mayweather
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Thank god.
Whoa...
I think it's more of a statement of how bad the arcade business is in Japan right now. With every game seeking rents of some kind and an increase in the consumption tax, it makes it nearly impossible for independent operators to survive. The number of locations in Japan has been decreasing for years (and the shrinkage is accelerating).
Thomasorus
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Sales of fighting games are indeed very low in Japan. Outside Tekken, all fighting games who did more than 100k sales are licensed games like Dissidia, Jojo or Persona.
PSP] Dissidia Final Fantasy (Square Enix) {2009.12.18} - 489,100 / NEW
[PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} - 425,718 / NEW
[PSP] Dissidia: 012 (Duodecim) Final Fantasy (Square Enix) {2011.03.03} - 286,117 / NEW
[PS3] Persona 4: Arena (Atlus) {2012.07.26} - 128,485 / NEW
[PS3] J-Stars Victory Vs (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} - 118,240 / NEW
[PS3] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) {2009.10.29} - 103,105 / NEW
[PSV] J-Stars Victory Vs (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} - 97,821 / NEW
[PS3] Persona 4 The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold (Atlus) {2014.08.28} - 89,468 / NEW
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.04.18} - 87,661 / NEW
[PS3] Street Fighter IV (Capcom) {2009.02.12} - 86,000 / NEW
[PS2] Fate/Unlimited Codes (Capcom) {2008.12.18} - 82,900 | NEW
[PS3] Super Street Fighter IV (Capcom) {2010.04.28} - 80,882 / NEW
[PSP] Naruto: Shippuden Narutimate Accel 3 (Namco Bandai) {2009.12.10} - 76,596 / NEW
[PSP] Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's Portable: The Battle of Aces (Namco Bandai) {2010.01.21} - 76,088 / NEW
[PS3] Soul Calibur IV (Namco Bandai Games) {2008.07.31} - 74,607 / NEW
[PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma (Arc System Works) {2013.10.24} - 72,464 / NEW
[PS3] Marvel Vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds (Capcom) {2011.02.17} - 67,187 / NEW
[PS3] Dead or Alive 5 (Koei Tecmo) {2012.09.27} - 66,586 / NEW
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm Generation (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} - 65,758 / NEW
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm 2 (Bandai Namco) {2010.10.21} - 63,675 / NEW
Complete list.
Just to give you a comparison: Street Fighter 3: Third Strike did 107,729 on both Dreamcast and PS2. And Alpha 3 did 503,562 on PS1 only.
PSP] Dissidia Final Fantasy (Square Enix) {2009.12.18} - 489,100 / NEW
[PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} - 425,718 / NEW
[PSP] Dissidia: 012 (Duodecim) Final Fantasy (Square Enix) {2011.03.03} - 286,117 / NEW
[PS3] Persona 4: Arena (Atlus) {2012.07.26} - 128,485 / NEW
[PS3] J-Stars Victory Vs (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} - 118,240 / NEW
[PS3] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) {2009.10.29} - 103,105 / NEW
[PSV] J-Stars Victory Vs (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} - 97,821 / NEW
[PS3] Persona 4 The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold (Atlus) {2014.08.28} - 89,468 / NEW
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.04.18} - 87,661 / NEW
[PS3] Street Fighter IV (Capcom) {2009.02.12} - 86,000 / NEW
[PS2] Fate/Unlimited Codes (Capcom) {2008.12.18} - 82,900 | NEW
[PS3] Super Street Fighter IV (Capcom) {2010.04.28} - 80,882 / NEW
[PSP] Naruto: Shippuden Narutimate Accel 3 (Namco Bandai) {2009.12.10} - 76,596 / NEW
[PSP] Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's Portable: The Battle of Aces (Namco Bandai) {2010.01.21} - 76,088 / NEW
[PS3] Soul Calibur IV (Namco Bandai Games) {2008.07.31} - 74,607 / NEW
[PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma (Arc System Works) {2013.10.24} - 72,464 / NEW
[PS3] Marvel Vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds (Capcom) {2011.02.17} - 67,187 / NEW
[PS3] Dead or Alive 5 (Koei Tecmo) {2012.09.27} - 66,586 / NEW
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm Generation (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} - 65,758 / NEW
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm 2 (Bandai Namco) {2010.10.21} - 63,675 / NEW
Complete list.
Just to give you a comparison: Street Fighter 3: Third Strike did 107,729 on both Dreamcast and PS2. And Alpha 3 did 503,562 on PS1 only.
Of console ports of arcade games do less than the arcade version because that isn't where the audience is. That is extra revenue from story mode and exclusive features before a game center patch.
The Japanese comments in the Nikkei and on 2ch are worried ones, but those are spread across. A lot of the other comments talk about other sales like Wii U sales, PS4, etc.
Sega is still doing fairly decently with Wonderland Wars, maimai, and it's other offerings. Arcades provide experiences outside of fighting games as there are card games, arcade MOBA, shmup, and more.
Sega and Square Enix is still going to do fairly well because of the profit margins they make on their SEGA All Net Multi and Taito Nesica machine licensing whereas Bandai Namco has exclusive offerings on their own proprietary boards and cabinets rather than sourcing to Nesica or Sega.
There are concerns, whether or not it's devastating long term we don't know. Bandai is feeling the effects of the exclusivity it offers and riding on the growth of it's few strong IPs. You need to find a way to capture a new audience rather than only go for your slowly shrinking, hardcore base. Especially with a lot of offerings being provided on iOS now.
The Japanese comments in the Nikkei and on 2ch are worried ones, but those are spread across. A lot of the other comments talk about other sales like Wii U sales, PS4, etc.
Sega is still doing fairly decently with Wonderland Wars, maimai, and it's other offerings. Arcades provide experiences outside of fighting games as there are card games, arcade MOBA, shmup, and more.
Sega and Square Enix is still going to do fairly well because of the profit margins they make on their SEGA All Net Multi and Taito Nesica machine licensing whereas Bandai Namco has exclusive offerings on their own proprietary boards and cabinets rather than sourcing to Nesica or Sega.
There are concerns, whether or not it's devastating long term we don't know. Bandai is feeling the effects of the exclusivity it offers and riding on the growth of it's few strong IPs. You need to find a way to capture a new audience rather than only go for your slowly shrinking, hardcore base. Especially with a lot of offerings being provided on iOS now.
ChamplooJones
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How did Alpha 3 sell so damn much?
Didn't know it was that bad
That marketing behind ASB was strong.
offf.... those SF4 numbers.
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Cindi Mayweather
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Those SF4 numbers are crazy low. Holy shit.
The issue there is while Sega and Taito/Square make easy money from the networks, what happens when everyone else stops producing new content to publish on Nesica/all.net? As the number of game centers shrinks, it's going to be harder and harder to justify all of the cheapest projects. (And as you mentioned, music and card games are generally cheaper to produce). How does this end, Chunithim and Groove Coaster updates until the end of time?
This seems really high for a Japanese only release of a PS2 game at the end of 08. Is there any way to obtain this game anymore besides just importing it from Japan?
Don't say emulation.
The PS2 was getting games in Japan until 2010 -- they took FOREVER to move on to the PS360.
There was a US release of the PSP version, but it's been since delisted.!
Don't play the PSP version; it's ass.
Not to say those aren't bad numbers but those are console sales number after they made their profit margins from arcade customers. How many of those arcade customers are going to buy the home release months later when they primarily play in arcades?
Of course those numbers are going to be low it's not surprising.
Of course those numbers are going to be low it's not surprising.
Thomasorus
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Even Capcom vs SNK 2 sold better than almost all the past 8 year games with 427,393 copies on PS2/DC/GC/XBX. And that's japan only.
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