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41.990 on Media Create for Japan week 1 for SFV. Even if we're assuming a high digital download rate for Japan (we shouldn't since Japan on a whole still likes buying physical media), that's about as well as Ultra did 18 months ago.

Fighting games have a uphill slog, guys.
Not MK X. I could see how barebones SF V looked that it wasn't that appealing to casual gamers. Let alone the advertising seemed really scarce outside of the tournament scene.
 

Dlent

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I don't know why, but I assumed that there would be a week one patch to neuter survival mode after all the complaints. Wait for March, I guess.
 

Beckx

Member
worst thing about SFV visuals so far is how badly they deteriorate on PC if you have to adjust down. The difference between "medium" and "low" shadows is the worst I have ever seen. Unfortunately for my cab installation I'm forced to either choose a lower resolution or lower shadows to hit solid 60 fps, and lower resolution is the lesser of two evils.

There's been a ton of commercials for it on the sports channels on TV.

very heavy on college basketball on ESPN the last two weekends
 
41.990 on Media Create for Japan week 1 for SFV. Even if we're assuming a high digital download rate for Japan (we shouldn't since Japan on a whole still likes buying physical media), that's about as well as Ultra did 18 months ago.

Fighting games have a uphill slog, guys.
From the sales it looks more like a gentle roll down the hill. Every iteration sold less and less, SFV numbers are lower than Ultra's.

At least it's still selling better than Guilty Gear I guess.
 
The point of "MKX just had so much more" vs SF5 is coming around the office.
People like the fighting more but when you earn fightmoney with nothing to unlock or no tower or mutations to mess with or story that is stupid but fun stupid, its harder for me to justify them on getting it till there is something more for them.

A lot of people just want to know what happens to Bison or what Ryu's origin story is.
 

Bizazedo

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The point of "MKX just had so much more" vs SF5 is coming around the office.
People like the fighting more but when you earn fightmoney with nothing to unlock or no tower or mutations to mess with or story that is stupid but fun stupid, its harder for me to justify them on getting it till there is something more for them.

A lot of people just want to know what happens to Bison or what Ryu's origin story is.

Agree. I hate having to tell casual friends to wait until March or, usually, June.
 

Numb

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Marn's stream layout has to be seen to be believed.

Twitch.tv/marnorz

michael-jordan-laughing.gif
 

Dahbomb

Member
Oh man the doom and gloom SFV threads in the gaming side.

I didn't realize that SFV's MC is 77. Looks like once the money hat reviews were out of the way the other sites that weren't money hatted went ham on the game.

It sucks that all this happened because this is just more ammo for Capcom to not put out another fighting game. But Capcom got no one to blame but themselves for it.
 

Numb

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Oh man the doom and gloom SFV threads in the gaming side.

I didn't realize that SFV's MC is 77. Looks like once the money hat reviews were out of the way the other sites that weren't money hatted went ham on the game.

It sucks that all this happened because this is just more ammo for Capcom to not put out another fighting game. But Capcom got no one to blame but themselves for it.

77?
That went down.
It's no secret game got pushed out the door very quick for many reasons. Was hoping the name could keep it afloat alittle till it gathered itself fully with content and whatnot. Hope capcom doesn't put too much thinking about the score. Too many publishers give power to it and overeact
 

Seyavesh

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undefeated 2016 archives are going up so here's some stuff from it:

RyanLV (Chun-Li/Morrigan/Phoenix) vs. Chris G (Morri/Doom/Vergil) [WF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqSkG0IxQMc
RyanLV vs. Chris G [GF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVHgq8W9TzQ

RayRay (Magneto/Doom/Sentinel + Zero/Doom/Dante) vs. RyanLV (Chun-Li/Morrigan/Phoenix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJDo-5jHFxI

Priest (Magneto/MODOK/Doom) vs. EM Pony (Magneto/Zero/Doom)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8TTYkF6qDc

Dual Kevin (DP/Dante/Hawkeye) vs. Priest (Magneto/MODOK/Doom)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYr-QC4vcI

Dual Kevin (Deadpool/Dante/Hawkeye) vs. Chris G (Morri/Doom/Vergil)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFrJAUxDXvY

Cloud805 (Zero/Vergil/Dante) vs. I<3Justice (Phoenix Wright/Captain America/Dr. Strange)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37G1y_7QZfc

SDG| Scamby (Wesker/Nemesis/Chris) vs. BT| Angelic (Wolverine/Dormammu/Shuma-Gorath) FT10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhl8vQhKu0

Dual Kevin (Deadpool/Dante/Hawkeye) vs. BT| Clockwork (Vergil/Doom/Strider Hiryu) FT10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1q78enLcrU
 

Negaduck

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Against R.mika that does a charged s.HK and wants to command grab out of it, as Sim how do I avoid the grab?

Outside of sliding on reaction to the charge.

Looking at frame data and I'm just not sure how to stop the tick throw.
 

Dahbomb

Member
undefeated 2016 archives are going up so here's some stuff from it:

RyanLV (Chun-Li/Morrigan/Phoenix) vs. Chris G (Morri/Doom/Vergil) [WF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqSkG0IxQMc
RyanLV vs. Chris G [GF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVHgq8W9TzQ

RayRay (Magneto/Doom/Sentinel + Zero/Doom/Dante) vs. RyanLV (Chun-Li/Morrigan/Phoenix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJDo-5jHFxI

Priest (Magneto/MODOK/Doom) vs. EM Pony (Magneto/Zero/Doom)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8TTYkF6qDc

Dual Kevin (DP/Dante/Hawkeye) vs. Priest (Magneto/MODOK/Doom)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYr-QC4vcI

Dual Kevin (Deadpool/Dante/Hawkeye) vs. Chris G (Morri/Doom/Vergil)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFrJAUxDXvY

Cloud805 (Zero/Vergil/Dante) vs. I<3Justice (Phoenix Wright/Captain America/Dr. Strange)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37G1y_7QZfc

SDG| Scamby (Wesker/Nemesis/Chris) vs. BT| Angelic (Wolverine/Dormammu/Shuma-Gorath) FT10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhl8vQhKu0

Dual Kevin (Deadpool/Dante/Hawkeye) vs. BT| Clockwork (Vergil/Doom/Strider Hiryu) FT10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1q78enLcrU
That Dual Kevin vs Clockwork FT10 though...
 

Seyavesh

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That Dual Kevin vs Clockwork FT10 though...

his defense is pretty much straight unreal in it
like i have never seen anyone consistently do the absolute correct thing on reaction so consistently/quickly + correctly guess on the hard guesses so much vs. clockwork's team
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
mashing jab stops any throw attempt

Her charged s.HK is +2 on block, so I dunno if a jab will stop a follow-up throw.

If you know they like going for grounded throws after it, just jump. You run the risk of her chasing you down with her anti-air throw, but that's not something they're likely to do on the first attempt.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
I think they should have waited like one more month or two before releasing. I'm enjoying the game, but my more casual FG friends are seeing the reviews and holding off on getting it on PC. :(
 
Against R.mika that does a charged s.HK and wants to command grab out of it, as Sim how do I avoid the grab?

Outside of sliding on reaction to the charge.

Looking at frame data and I'm just not sure how to stop the tick throw.
If you're blocking the charged dropkick it's already too late. All he has is his jab (if that even works) or reversal teleport if you're not pushed into a corner, the latter of which still able to be punished. Normally I'd say neutral jump, but with how slow and floaty Dhalsim's is... yeah.

Slide underneath it, slap her from afar, use standing jab to stuff it from up-close, use V-Reversal during blockstun before she recovers.
 

kitzkozan

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I think they should have waited like one more month or two before releasing. I'm enjoying the game, but my more casual FG friends are seeing the reviews and holding off on getting it on PC. :(

Of course they should of waited, but the executives at Capcom are atrocious and have been for a while. It's a C tier company given all of their internal problems, which are completely out of our control so there's no point in second guessing. A company which put a goof like Yoshinori Ono as a producer and even supervising the FG division is bound to fail more often than not. :p That's a partial knock on him, as I respect his passion for the genre and he's very skilled as a PR person imo. The problem is that it's kind of obvious to me that he's not fit to be a producer, given his lack of attention to details and his goofiness coming through from everything to character designs to the overall package of both IV, V and SF X Tekken.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Where's the SFV tier list though? It's been one week man.

Personally I don't see myself switching myself away from Cammy even though I will be learning other characters on the side. I feel that she has all the tools one would need to do well in SFV. When I lose I know it's because of me and not because of the character or the match up, which is good.

Game feels fairly balanced for week 1.
 

Horseress

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Where's the SFV tier list though? It's been one week man.

Personally I don't see myself switching myself away from Cammy even though I will be learning other characters on the side. I feel that she has all the tools one would need to do well in SFV. When I lose I know it's because of me and not because of the character or the match up, which is good.

Game feels fairly balanced for week 1.

Happening to me as well, biggest change from IV imo

And Cammy is awesome in this game, always hated her but now I'm enjoying playing her
 
Against R.mika that does a charged s.HK and wants to command grab out of it, as Sim how do I avoid the grab?

Outside of sliding on reaction to the charge.

Looking at frame data and I'm just not sure how to stop the tick throw.

Jump or backdash. Reversal teleport is not throw invincible.

Of course you can also hit her HK before it connects or V-reversal immediately.
 

Wallach

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Where's the SFV tier list though? It's been one week man.

Personally I don't see myself switching myself away from Cammy even though I will be learning other characters on the side. I feel that she has all the tools one would need to do well in SFV. When I lose I know it's because of me and not because of the character or the match up, which is good.

Game feels fairly balanced for week 1.

Balance is surprisingly strong for first release, I think. It's been a long time since I've seen a roster where it's hard to fill the bottom ranks. There are characters like Zangief and F.A.N.G who I think are probably working harder than the rest of the roster right now, but even then both seem like they could be serious problems if you're willing to walk to catch the bus.

Zangief in particular is kind of interesting to me because generally you'd think he would get weaker as match-ups get explored, but I think he's actually going to stabilize or move up slightly this time. He has pretty good buttons (especially in terms of average normal range), his V-Trigger is fucking strong and is going to help match-ups from ever getting too far out of his control, and his air SPD I think was absolutely worth the green hand trade in the long game.
 
Where's the SFV tier list though? It's been one week man.

Personally I don't see myself switching myself away from Cammy even though I will be learning other characters on the side. I feel that she has all the tools one would need to do well in SFV. When I lose I know it's because of me and not because of the character or the match up, which is good.

Game feels fairly balanced for week 1.
I posted my week 1 tier list in the Discord chat, but I got laughed at. :p
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
As far as a tier list goes I don't think you could rank anyone below a B at this point.

It'd be like:

S: Chun, Dhalsim
A: Everyone but FANG, Gief and Laura
B: FANG, Gief, Laura
 

kitzkozan

Member
As far as a tier list goes I don't think you could rank anyone below a B at this point.

It'd be like:

S: Chun, Dhalsim
A: Everyone but FANG, Gief and Laura
B: FANG, Gief, Laura

More importantly, I'm having a blast with Ken which was usually my main in most SF games. :D Especially since I'm getting my reactions back and doing all type of run cancelling + v-trigger stuff. He's way more fun than he ever was in IV, that's for sure.
 
Where's the SFV tier list though? It's been one week man.

Personally I don't see myself switching myself away from Cammy even though I will be learning other characters on the side. I feel that she has all the tools one would need to do well in SFV. When I lose I know it's because of me and not because of the character or the match up, which is good.

Game feels fairly balanced for week 1.
I feel the same way. I need more tech/better mindset and better choices.
Happening to me as well, biggest change from IV imo

And Cammy is awesome in this game, always hated her but now I'm enjoying playing her
I like Cammy but I really want to see who else I might like.
 

Ferrio

Banned
The whole "you could be fine, but your opponent gets rollback" has me thinking if I'm just winning cause my opponent's connection is fucked and mine isn't. I don't like that.
 
Watching pros try to complete Survival mode on hard is so funny.

The strats they use to try finish it are hilarious. Put on network battle settings when you get low in life and run away until it finds somebody.

MOV is currently pressing start over and over while holding down and punishing normals with ex SBK.

I didn't even know pausing the game would keep your charge lol
 

Negaduck

Member
I actually have been asking people for their top 5 (doesn't have to be in order) currently.

I want to check in again before evo, and then again after evo.

Thanks for all the help guys! Didn't know backdash would work outside of the corner.

I think slide on reaction might be my best option.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Watching pros try to complete Survival mode on hard is so funny.

The strats they use to try finish it are hilarious. Put on network battle settings when you get low in life and run away until it finds somebody.

MOV is currently pressing start over and over while holding down and punishing normals with ex SBK.

I didn't even know pausing the game would keep your charge lol

yes but he just got bopped by level 40 Karin

Ayy lmao!
 
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