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Fighting Games Weekly | April 22-28 | Game of Throws - A Song of Salt and Fire(balls)
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Passive Assassin
Member
... Rollout? You guys are the reason why Nas made Hip Hop is Dead.
Dissing Rollout is one bad judgement call away from dissing Shake It Fast or I Need A Girl Pt.2.
I will not accept this.
Karsticles
Member
LOL @ those names.
Professor Beef
Banned
Well Nas' career is dead, so he was wrong about a lot of things.
Slamtastic
Member
Has Skullgirls done for the American made independent fighting game genre what SF4 did for the big boys?
Here's another one.
And the previous one I brought up
Here's another one.
And the previous one I brought up
Keits is colorblind IIRC so I'm sure Divekick's design has that in mind.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I've never heard someone get this hype for marvel 2 music.
Rice-Eater
Member
Don't know what they plan for the full product, but just don't make it a all female cast and have 10 second combos please.
Slamtastic
Member
Don't worry, Beast's Fury will have a mixed gender roster of anthropomorphized animals!
Kappa
Beast Fury looks cool. Pretty cool animations. But will probably suck because it looks like it'll be a furry game.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
This game wont become popular unless they add a human why are they pushing away the FGC DONT THEY WANT TO BECOME POPULAR OMGAH
They could have finished those frames of art in Fearless Night.
The makers have an account on Fur Affinity forums.
It will definitely be a furry game.
The makers have an account on Fur Affinity forums.
It will definitely be a furry game.
Passive Assassin
Member
ARIS!
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Twitch really needs an ArisFace
Passive Assassin
Member
Aris in grand finals ... after all these years?!
Slamtastic
Member
Karsticles
Member
This is what happens when a new DC game comes out and Marvel doesn't get an update.
Slamtastic
Member
Injustice just came out.
DryEyeRelief
Member
BionicBunion
Lolis can be manly.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Professor Beef
Banned
Gesundheit.
Passive Assassin
Member
Jojo pls
DryEyeRelief
Member
?
I don't recognize this one. Is he a new addition?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Passive Assassin
Member
Thanks Code Geass and moe. Killing Japanese art.
So many things that have to line up to make a truly great fighting game:
-Relatively balanced
-Developers who give a fuck and listen to fans (but also knows when not listen to stupid complaints), and also are interested in the health of the competitive scene
-Non-niche broadly appealing well-animated characters, and enough characters to have a lot of choices at the character select
screen in general.
-Good netcode
-Available and up-to-date patch/version-wise on multiple platforms in all regions
-Enough single-player stuff for more casual players (mostly just because they are the ones who purchase the game en masse and account for a huge chunk of revenue)
-Developer with resources necessary for all of the above
Seems like you have to settle for like half of those usually (at best!)
-Relatively balanced
-Developers who give a fuck and listen to fans (but also knows when not listen to stupid complaints), and also are interested in the health of the competitive scene
-Non-niche broadly appealing well-animated characters, and enough characters to have a lot of choices at the character select
screen in general.
-Good netcode
-Available and up-to-date patch/version-wise on multiple platforms in all regions
-Enough single-player stuff for more casual players (mostly just because they are the ones who purchase the game en masse and account for a huge chunk of revenue)
-Developer with resources necessary for all of the above
Seems like you have to settle for like half of those usually (at best!)
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
BBCP will have almost all of that. Mhm yup
Oh hey you just described Injustice.
-Its relatively balanced till this point.
-NRS gives many fucks (too many if you ask me). They patched MK9 repeatedly to please the community. Paulo and Hector frequently stream monster Twitch stream chats to answer questions and see what does and doesn't work
-DC characters. Nuff said.
-The netcode is good. Its not great, but its acceptable.
-Their patches release for all regions and versions simultaeneously
-STAR Labs, Story mode is for casuals.
-It seems they have the resources. Dat WB dough.
You really will make any discussion turn to talk of Marvel needing a patch, won't you?
You forgot the main component which is that the game has to be fun. People will play your game and you can be relatively successful if your game is fun even if it's broke.
You meant to quote Dahbomb, right?
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I think the world is finally ready for a sequel to the Cho Aniki fighting game.
Behold the manliness.
Behold the manliness.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
This is exactly why I didn't mention BBCSEX :lol It's so balanced from tone downs it's boring as fuck
I should've added:
-Good engine with plenty of depth that will allow complex and evolving competitive play over many years. (I realize that this is so nebulous that it doesn't really mean much and/or is just insanely subjective.)
-Engine that has safeguards in place to keep
really ridiculous execution requirements from being a necessity for higher level play (stuff like combos with 1-frame links being necessary to 'properly' play a character, etc.)
Also, Injustice's art style and animation are booty but cheeks. Same goes for 90% of BBCP's cast.
edit: Also Dahbomb's thing- the game has to
be fun (though I thought this went without saying, haha)
-Good engine with plenty of depth that will allow complex and evolving competitive play over many years. (I realize that this is so nebulous that it doesn't really mean much and/or is just insanely subjective.)
-Engine that has safeguards in place to keep
really ridiculous execution requirements from being a necessity for higher level play (stuff like combos with 1-frame links being necessary to 'properly' play a character, etc.)
Also, Injustice's art style and animation are booty but cheeks. Same goes for 90% of BBCP's cast.
edit: Also Dahbomb's thing- the game has to
be fun (though I thought this went without saying, haha)
Marvel needs a patch, I think we have established that already. You wouldn't have fucking top players wasting their time having 2 hour long weekly sessions on it or giant essays on it on blogs/forum posts. Even if it's "for the fun" there is a desire for some change if the option is there.
Now we don't need to talk about it until Monday.
As far as new fighting game IPs go it is VERY hard to make one without established characters. BB is the most ambitious relatively good budget fighter that doesn't rely on decade old characters for mass appeal. I can respect that. I think what brings it down for many is the obviously anime influenced art style... we really need fighters to break out of this design trope.
I think if you have established characters it becomes easier to budget and create content plus balance the game. You fucking know a Square Enix x Capcom fighter is going to make bank... you shouls use this opportunity to push content, netcode, engine possibility and a solid art style instead of milking the fanbase with shit DLC policies.
Now we don't need to talk about it until Monday.
As far as new fighting game IPs go it is VERY hard to make one without established characters. BB is the most ambitious relatively good budget fighter that doesn't rely on decade old characters for mass appeal. I can respect that. I think what brings it down for many is the obviously anime influenced art style... we really need fighters to break out of this design trope.
I think if you have established characters it becomes easier to budget and create content plus balance the game. You fucking know a Square Enix x Capcom fighter is going to make bank... you shouls use this opportunity to push content, netcode, engine possibility and a solid art style instead of milking the fanbase with shit DLC policies.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Hey Marvel 2 got by just fine with a few good characters for 10 years. Deal with it
10 MORE YEARS!
10 MORE YEARS!
Parallax Scroll
Banned
At least it looks better than SF4.
No it doesn't. It isn't like minions would play another game. Even with the knowledge that the game won't be supported minions will flood the streets with MvC4 comes out (in time for Avengers 2) or Guardians of the Galaxy.
I think the world is finally ready for a sequel to the Cho Aniki fighting game.
Behold the manliness.
I can dig it. That or a Muscleman game.
I need to learn how to code so I can make my collaborative strength character "tier" diagram slash balancing network model a reality. It'd be perfect and everyone could agree on who to balance how much and would also accurately describe which character is the best in the game as a sum of the strength of their relationships.
Because 2D fans didn't have shit to play and other games weren't patched regularly that were in competition. There was also no means to regularly patch without expansion releases plus of course licensing issues on that game (which is real reason behind MVC3 as well). Let's not forget regular streaming and information exchange at light speed. Only reason MVC2 "died" was because MVC3 was finally released.
Different times and circumstances etc. Now you have so much choice in fighters that it's hard coming up with 8 fighters for EVO.
We already have tier charts.
http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/