Wesker (and Taskmaster) are the true, honest Ryu type characters of MVC3.It's too bad because Wesker is a really fun character on point.
I think he likes Viper last because of YOLO EX moves.Yeah he's been choking it up for sure in some of those matches but there are quite a few situations where he needs to bring in Viper but can't because "lol bad/unsafe DHC".
It's a supremely valuable tool to be able to bring in characters safely in a game like Marvel. Order wise it makes more sense to have Viper start the game and have Wesker either 2nd or last.
also add shogun and those are the 3 i'm thinking of (i forgot about wentinel)I can't even count the number of "top" Weskers on one hand that have a chance at even making top 16.
MAYBE RoachKing? MAYBE Green Ace? MAYBE Wentinel?
That is sad as fuck. Wesker isn't even a bad or low tier character.
Time to trade him for Viper. We can make things right, there's still time.On Iron Fist: He's basically a good Street Fighter character that Capcom wrongfully thought would be playable in a VS game.
Hey remember when yipes was considered a god in mvc3? Yeah, good times.
Wesker is a FAIR AND HONEST character!also lol at wesker being honest, he's still really silly and dumb but that's what makes him fun in the first place.
No it's him, RayRay and Cosmos as best in the Northeast. There's no undisputed king of the Northeast.Is Flux really like the undisputed best player in the north east these days?
There are more good Phoenix players than Wesker players these days. There will always be a Phoenix in top 8 because of FChamp.honestly if you wanna talk about 'strangely absent good/formerly common characters' i think phoenix is my choice. she adds a massive dynamic to your team that is really draining to everyone who isn't absolutely a top8 contender. not just in the sense of dark phoenix, but also in the sense of bizarrely good she is as an anchor and how it forces players into an offensive role
Reposting from the Ultra Street Fighter IV OT. I will try giving the Shoryuken ebook in the OP a read.I just bought this game the other day and want to get good at it. I've played Street Fighter II Alpha 3 and Street Fighter III: Third Strike as a kid but I typically just pressed all of the buttons. I've tried to get good with MvC 3 but mastering 3 characters, timing character switches, etc. was very hard for me - that game was hectic. This game looks a lot simpler but there are a ton of characters to choose from. I've tried almost all of them and so far like El Fuerte's speed (but he doesn't really attack), Hugo's strength and Gen's fighting styles (he's probably too advanced though). As a beginner, which character should I try to get good with first? Are there any good guides or resources for beginners?
I am playing on PS4 with a controller.
Haven't watched marvel much in recent months, is this what the metagame has devolved into? I blow up all sorts of competitive puzzle games for the same reason and marvel dying due to no patch gets put into perspective when you say it like that.Hasn't Unknown just been making poor choices in his matches rather than getting his char outplayed? Then again, that's probably like a lot of what Marvel is, fucking up slightly and dying as a result, rather than cleanly outplayed.
when the hell was this?
Wesker is a FAIR AND HONEST character!
XF3 Wesker still dumb though.
No it's him, RayRay and Cosmos as best in the Northeast. There's no undisputed king of the Northeast.
When he won like winger brawl or some shit and was actually doing well for like half a year. Pretty sure a bunch of people had him in their top 5. And the top 5 back then were the "gods".when the hell was this?
Eh Yipes was never god status... the 5 gods have always been Justin, ChrisG, FChamp, Flocker and PRRog. Yipes was always that guy you could debate for 6th place as being near god but never true god status.When he won like winger brawl or some shit and was actually doing well for like half a year. Pretty sure a bunch of people had him in their top 5. And the top 5 back then were the "gods".
i mean, it's always been like that? i dunno how much it's really devolved as the entire nature of marvel 3 is that things snowball like crazy off solid hitsHaven't watched marvel much in recent months, is this what the metagame has devolved into? I blow up all sorts of competitive puzzle games for the same reason and marvel dying due to no patch gets put into perspective when you say it like that.
There was a time where flocker was mostly forgotten by people until he actually showed up to a tournament. During that time yipes was considered a god by many. Especially because no one was giving Chris real trouble except for Yipes and maybe Justin and champ. It wasn't for long but he had his time. I guess you could also say we had a looser definition for god back then.Eh Yipes was never god status... the 5 gods have always been Justin, ChrisG, FChamp, Flocker and PRRog. Yipes was always that guy you could debate for 6th place as being near god but never true god status.
You're right that Flocker wasn't always one of the gods, but I don't think Yipes ever was. He was always a fan favorite. Early on, people didn't even use the phrase widely. Viscant, for example, was never one of "the gods" despite winning Evo. It took a few Evos before people started talking about a dominant 4, and by then Yipes wasn't a top contender.There was a time where flocker was mostly forgotten by people until he actually showed up to a tournament. During that time yipes was considered a god by many. Especially because no one was giving Chris real trouble except for Yipes and maybe Justin and champ. It wasn't for long but he had his time. I guess you could also we had a looser definition for god back then.
hell, i'd love for folks to define what 'outplaying' in marvel is to them anyhow
I remember yipes was always considered #6 or #7, after the original 5 gods and either before or after nemo
Wow... I wonder who will win this time! lolAlso heads up for those heading to EVO, gaf member Rotanibor is hosting the Vampire Savior side tourney again this year!
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At this pace, it's looking to be the biggest VSav tourney outside of Japan. I'll be playing and so will Haitani and a bunch of other killers (Note: I am not a killer). Also shoutouts to Mad Catz for hosting the finals stream!
If you wanna join in or want more info, hit up Roty over twitter by responding to this: https://twitter.com/ROTANIBOR/status/620678249593466880
Yipes' "god" period (according to fans back then) was before either Flocker or Nemo had really made a name for themselves in Ultimate yet. In the US anyway, in Nemo's case.
Reposting from the Ultra Street Fighter IV OT. I will try giving the Shoryuken ebook in the OP a read.
AH, now this I can agree with. Everyone talked about Yipes' play at his house, and how it was night and day in performance. Hahaha, that's a great memory. I don't recall him ever being called a tournament level god, though, and I don't think I ever placed him there.I think before yipes won a tournament he was considered really good but not god status. People would always say he's just not good in tournament but a god in casuals. Then when he won like two tournaments people put him in the god list for a while but he eventually dropped off because he couldn't produce results anymore. Him doing so good against Chris also impressed a lot of people because it seemed like no one could stop him at the time. Then he dropped off and flocker started winning more consistently and graduated to god.
Aside from the Flocker/PRRog stuff, this article is more relevant today than it was last year simply because what Clockwork said here is now more true.. the gap between the gods and the next batch of player is not that big anymore. This is why I am personally excited for this year's EVO, there will be some god slaying to be seen.Clockwork 2014 article is a fun flashback:
http://www.brokentier.com/blogs/news/13326705-marvel-gods-a-breakdown-by-clockw0rk
Yipes was always around the same level as Fanatiq, and Fanatiq was never one of the gods.
I wonder if him quitting EMP had anything to do with his practice rate.He won the beach right over winning EVO and was still a dominant player until EVO 2014. Then in post EVO 2014 and EVO 2015 he basically just disappeared only to appear in the last two majors (in one he got bodied and in the other he made top 8).
He obviously hasn't been keeping up.
Aside from the Flocker/PRRog stuff, this article is more relevant today than it was last year simply because what Clockwork said here is now more true.. the gap between the gods and the next batch of player is not that big anymore. This is why I am personally excited for this year's EVO, there will be some god slaying to be seen.
o!Notable Players in the Evo Bracket (self.MvC3)
submitted 1 day ago by FluxedOver
Hey guys, I was bored tonight, so I went through the Evo bracket looking for strong players whose names I recognize. Let me know if I missed anyone!
Names are split by what quarter of the bracket they are in (only one player per quarter will make winners top8). Names on the same line are in the same pool.
1st Quarter
Justin Wong, Wolf
Macneverdrop, Rusty Shackleford
SBK, Moons
Jeopardy
Wedge, Cloud, Wero
Miniboss, KBR, Dual Kevin
KBeast
Knives, Persia, DJ Divine
Akbar
Takumi, MrCertified, Sacktap
LLND, PR Balrog
Pony, Stone
Ruin, GX
2nd Quarter
Full Schedule, Tapebot, Dr. Salt
Hi Im Nastyy, Danke, Andy G
Chou, J2Jin, Footwurk
Dizzy, Bonfire
Clockwork, Windzero
XSK Samurai
DJ Huoshen, MarlinPie, Marvisto
Nemo, Taekua, Marvelo, Lud (!)
Infrit, Royalflush
LTP, Tong, Punisher
Heartia, K-Brad, Baxter, OmgItzAndre
NerdJosh, WhiteBl4ck, Frutsy, CeeDizzy
Quasidomo, GCYoshi
3rd Quarter
Chris G, Terry Bogard
Abegen, Angelic
UncleMatt, Cross
Snaketits
Quackbot, Shorty
Knockturnal
Anabolic, Kyle P, Priest, RayRay (!)
Asian Demon, KillerKai, CJ Showstopper, Dieminion (!)
Flocker, Buttons, Diaphone
JJJ, Jan, Rattana, Viscant
Helix, Eita
Unknown, SenorTaxi
NoahTheProdigy, Ranmasama, Neo
4th Quarter
Filipino Champ, CleggMadness
Jibril, Trahh
Y2Jay
Udaterasu, Flux
Apologyman, Mixup, Falcomist, Polo (!)
VX, FizzyKups, Coach Steve
RF, Yipes
Prodigy
Die-Chan, Sora, PZPoy
Fruitpunch, Prophete
Nage, Kinderparty
Babaghanoush, Paradigm, Dustin, Frankie G, JEO (!
Wesker is a FAIR AND HONEST character!
There are more good Phoenix players than Wesker players these days. There will always be a Phoenix in top 8 because of FChamp.
Man ChrisG's vanilla team was straight butt cheeks. Wasn't it like ryu/wesker/ammy or some shit like that? Way too fair of a team in that game and he still produced results with it. He won a tournament and got plenty of top 8's with it.Speaking of players rising and falling... It's funny that when they did that Season's Beatings East vs West 5v5 in vanilla, ChrisG didn't even make the cut for team East Coast.
So around the time he won summer jam against chrisg then? Man its hard trying to think that far back lol getting stuff confused. I was thinking around Capcom Cup 2013 for my previous post.
Names from this that I really want to see on stream (besides the gods and Clockwork):Posting this from the MvC3 reddit. There are going to be a lot of heavy hitters missing from top 8.
*remembers numerous people dying to jump Tatsu L + Wesker assist "unblockable"*Man ChrisG's vanilla team was straight butt cheeks. Wasn't it like ryu/wesker/ammy or some shit like that? Way too fair of a team in that game and he still produced results with it. He won a tournament and got plenty of top 8's with it.
i mean, it's always been like that? i dunno how much it's really devolved as the entire nature of marvel 3 is that things snowball like crazy off solid hits
defining 'fucking up and then losing' is a bit rough in this case 'cuz all games have that at every level (even the top) so ????
hell, i'd love for folks to define what 'outplaying' in marvel is to them anyhow
Man ChrisG's vanilla team was straight butt cheeks. Wasn't it like ryu/wesker/ammy or some shit like that? Way too fair of a team in that game and he still produced results with it. He won a tournament and got plenty of top 8's with it.
By that definition, every time ChrisG is winning he's out playing the other guy.Getting outplayed would entail not being able to answer what your opponent is doing offensively and defensively, It boils down to whether you are are at their mercy not when it comes to those choices, I think. This doesn't quite as often in Marvel because of the death combos but the best example off the top of my head would be when Fchamp plays against any Haggar and is just zipping around the screen with Mags to avoid pressure and to deal damage that Haggar can't do anything. That's getting outplayed, to me.Not the joke outplayed but an actual outplayed, lol
Isn't that exactly what he's doing?By that definition, every time ChrisG is winning he's out playing the other guy.
By that definition, every time ChrisG is winning he's out playing the other guy.
By that definition, every time ChrisG is winning he's out playing the other guy.
In some cases yes, in some cases no.Isn't that exactly what he's doing?!
It's only a 9-1 matchup because of the decisions being made.In some cases yes, in some cases no.
IMO winning a 9-1 match up isn't out playing, it's playing on par.
You could make the case that character selection plays a part in out playing of course.
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