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Fighting Games Weekly | July 15-21 | Post-EVO Pillow Talk
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All weekend was such a blast. Jesus, my heart couldn't take all the action that was going on.
My highlights from yesterday were.
5. KoF13 Reynald taking it with the comeback from loser's
4. Wobbles' performance with Ice Climbers despite how disadvantaged they are against the other characters. Really, really solid play from him; probably the best he's ever been. He deserves the placing he got... the sad thing is, this was his last tournament...
(He mentioned as much on Saturday on the other stream for Melee)
3. Justin Wong run through Loser's, guy almost HAD IT. Ugh.
2. Mango throwing his shirt out into the crowd and getting hyped up (where is this GIF GAF? ? You're disappointing me!)
1. Infiltration getting knocked out and Xian taking AE like the boss he is.
Super great weekend. I'm ridiculously happy with how things turned out all around. There's already apparently whispers of SSBM or Smash in general returning next year and the hype surrounding it clearly was immaculate.
If you wanted to see the Yoshi beating M2K game 1, the match was recorded with a camera here so you can get crowd reactions and everything. I haven't watch it yet myself but I'm REALLY curious how YOSHI of all characters beat Sheik (or whoever M2K used).
My highlights from yesterday were.
5. KoF13 Reynald taking it with the comeback from loser's
4. Wobbles' performance with Ice Climbers despite how disadvantaged they are against the other characters. Really, really solid play from him; probably the best he's ever been. He deserves the placing he got... the sad thing is, this was his last tournament...
(He mentioned as much on Saturday on the other stream for Melee)3. Justin Wong run through Loser's, guy almost HAD IT. Ugh.
2. Mango throwing his shirt out into the crowd and getting hyped up (where is this GIF GAF? ? You're disappointing me!)
1. Infiltration getting knocked out and Xian taking AE like the boss he is.
Super great weekend. I'm ridiculously happy with how things turned out all around. There's already apparently whispers of SSBM or Smash in general returning next year and the hype surrounding it clearly was immaculate.
If you wanted to see the Yoshi beating M2K game 1, the match was recorded with a camera here so you can get crowd reactions and everything. I haven't watch it yet myself but I'm REALLY curious how YOSHI of all characters beat Sheik (or whoever M2K used).
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
MrWizard got his waifu(s).
Yoko from Gurren Lagann figure and an idolm@ster anime body pillow.
A reveal was never hinted at.
SloaneRisette
Member
Wizard got an Anime girl figure and a body pillow.
And then everyone chanted "Oil up!"
CrazyTank940
Member
there was no reveal, just that there was a surprise at the end of AE that anime fighter fans (persona specific was mentioned) would like. Keep in mind the guy didn't work for Arc or Atlus but people jumped to all sorts of conclusions.
It was some of the anime fighter community giving Wiz a yoko statue and a body pillow of someone else.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Anyone who thinks Justin needs to pick a new team is crazy. The way he plays is so Marvel 2 it hurts and I don't think he'll get that same style by switching.
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.
Karsticles
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";70605541]Anyone who thinks Justin needs to pick a new team is crazy. The way he plays is so Marvel 2 it hurts and I don't think he'll get that same style by switching.
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.[/QUOTE]
Anyone who tells anyone to switch their team members, unless advice is asked for, is a jerk. A huge part of this game is the passion you put into winning with your team. I could play Magneto/Dormammu/Doom if I wanted a better team, but then I wouldn't care about it. If Wolverine/Storm/Akuma fills JWong with passion, even if it's not a superb team composition, then it's the best team for him.
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.[/QUOTE]
Anyone who tells anyone to switch their team members, unless advice is asked for, is a jerk. A huge part of this game is the passion you put into winning with your team. I could play Magneto/Dormammu/Doom if I wanted a better team, but then I wouldn't care about it. If Wolverine/Storm/Akuma fills JWong with passion, even if it's not a superb team composition, then it's the best team for him.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";70605541]Anyone who thinks Justin needs to pick a new team is crazy. The way he plays is so Marvel 2 it hurts and I don't think he'll get that same style by switching.
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.[/QUOTE]
The guy can play Zero very MVC2-ish. Zero can be played very defensively.
I think at the most Justin should have a legitimate counter pick team in the pocket. He can beat 99% of Marvel players with his main team but for that less that 1% he needs a different team even if its just for mind game purposes.
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.[/QUOTE]
The guy can play Zero very MVC2-ish. Zero can be played very defensively.
I think at the most Justin should have a legitimate counter pick team in the pocket. He can beat 99% of Marvel players with his main team but for that less that 1% he needs a different team even if its just for mind game purposes.
Those number posts were mostly posted in excitement at how much bigger it seemed to have grown from last year...why is that such a big deal? So what, we're only supposed to clutter the thread with incessant "OH MY DAYS"? It doesn't make it any less trite.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I can't believe Capcom is copy-pasting characters from another fighting game, Capcom never does that
FormallyFamicom
Member
Justin Wong post UMvC3 finals interview with Gootecks.
Other EVO videos with Gootecks and Slasher here.
Other EVO videos with Gootecks and Slasher here.
bodine1231
Member
We need at least one more fighting game event of EVO's size and hype,once a year isn't enough.
KOF and Marvel were amazing this year. I wish KOF got a better time slot,such a fun game to watch.
KOF and Marvel were amazing this year. I wish KOF got a better time slot,such a fun game to watch.
FormallyFamicom
Member
Justin Wong post UMvC3 finals interview with Gootecks.
Other EVO videos with Gootecks and Slasher here. Didn't know Justin acknowledged the five gods of Marvel.
Other EVO videos with Gootecks and Slasher here. Didn't know Justin acknowledged the five gods of Marvel.
Rice-Eater
Member
Another interesting to look at is the Friday/Saturday streams when certain games practically had all the attention to themselves. I think Smash was round 25-30k, Marvel topped out around 54k while SF4 topped out around 65k. When it came to dedicated fanbase, it looks like SF4 comes out ahead of all the other games. But on Finals day when we're all thrown in the same room along with casuals and passerby, Marvel and Smash came out ahead.
And I agree on your points about why that is. Nintendo fans probably came in droves for Smash. Marvel had the best timeslot and the GF helped pushed it to 145k. If Justin hadn't done what he did, it would have never reached 140k+. SF4 was the last game again and ended very late and may have lost a lot of viewers due to this. That doesn't mean it would have passed Smash or Marvel had it came on earlier. But their is no way to tell either. I personally think the casual fans who never watch any of these fighters were more interested in tuning into Marvel over anything else.
But in the end I'm just very happy the numbers went way up since last year.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Fanatiq is one of the most successful Marvel pad players. Here he explains how he sets up his 360 pad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhqQIovz-Qg
It's weird how many people are still in that vanilla mindset. The only hate mail I've ever gotten in online umvc3 is from when I played Phoenix. Zero/Vergil? No one complains.
Huw_Dawson
Member
Can I request that nobody makes jokes about people having Asperger Syndrome. It doesn't turn you into an automata, or automatically makes you unlikable or something.
Thank you.
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On a lighter note: I'm glad that it wasn't just the UK FGC ripping KI to shreds. I was really tired during the exhibition, many UK players were staying up super late instead of sleeping ahead of work, and we see a game that nobody actually cares about being played really badly instead of Marvel. Bun that game.
I am rather proud of a tweet I made that night: A series of hype finals at Evo followed by a KI exhibition? C-c-c-c-combobreaker.
Also, is it bad that I am totally unfamiliar with many T32 placers in Marvel? There were people even in T8 that I'd never heard of.
Thank you.
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On a lighter note: I'm glad that it wasn't just the UK FGC ripping KI to shreds. I was really tired during the exhibition, many UK players were staying up super late instead of sleeping ahead of work, and we see a game that nobody actually cares about being played really badly instead of Marvel. Bun that game.
I am rather proud of a tweet I made that night: A series of hype finals at Evo followed by a KI exhibition? C-c-c-c-combobreaker.
Also, is it bad that I am totally unfamiliar with many T32 placers in Marvel? There were people even in T8 that I'd never heard of.
That was the correct list of gods. Justin has been perusing GAF most probably.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The only 2 players in top 8 I hadn't heard of were Cloud805 (SoCal) and Zack (Peru).
Looking over the top 32, roughly 7 names are new to me, 4 of which are foreign players.
I think it has to do with the difference between being an active participant in stopping Vergil or Zero or hitting those two versus the sense of "Crap, he got to 5 bars, I'm screwed no matter what I do."
Especially since meter can generate while you're killing his or her other characters
I dunno, a lot of the people I recognized and those I didn't (like Cloud805) clearly deserved to be there.
As has been said, the Zak was probably the weakest in top 8 and clearly riding Zero, but ALSO a lot of his mistakes could be chalked up to tournament pressure. I mean, hell, Nemo got bopped, but then annihilated Chris and FChamp in the FT20.
Not everyone can hold up to tournaments.
So, no, I don't see what you're seeing. And if what 645 said above, holds, some of that is apparently just due to them being foreign.
nah, happens a lot with Marvel. top 32 is a bit of a toss up, sometimes previous top players get tough brackets or run into something they haven't seen/someone they haven't played. No matter how good you are at Marvel, something new or something outside your comfort zone can still kill you in a 3/5 set. This also allows previously unknown guys to get into top 8.
Cloud and Zak were the fresh faces. I feel like Cloud really put himself on the map with smart play and proving he knows more than Zero. Zak choked it up and probably got mind fucked by Champ's disrespectful stuff.
That tops off Evo nicely.
He won Marvel in my heart for sure, though I can't be mad about Flocker taking it. They both put tons of work into the game.
Beast Legacy
Member
Yup. And while picking a better team would lead to more tournament wins for Justin, I love that he picks characters he likes and sometimes avoids them if they are too high tier (Chie in P4A). It excites the casual viewer that might only recognize Justin Wong and Daigo by name and may only tune into Evo to see what all the fuss is about. As one of the most recognized video game players in the world, his motivation for character selection is much appreciated.
No hate on Flocker or people that pick top tier though. That win was hard earned.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
5th ultra SF4 character will be from saturday night slam masters
scytheavatar
Member
Was I the only one who though that it was shocking for J Wong to try a completely unnecessary Storm TAC infinite on Zero in the last round which lost him the entire tournament? Think it's one of the most WTF decisions I have ever seen in a tournament, from someone who should have known how important it is to kill Flocker's Zero.
Karsticles
Member
If you watch the interview posted above, he says that he got greedy and it was a bad decision.
Huw_Dawson
Member
I was specifically talking about Angelic, Zak and Cloud805, plus a few assorted names in T32. But given that you can't perfectly seed... eh.
I was so tired I can't really comment on the matches themselves.
EDIT: My prediction for the fifth new SF4 character is Haggar. He is the only non-guest character that Capcom would consider putting into the game. He'll have a lariat, SPD, and a pipe-related special move.
I was so tired I can't really comment on the matches themselves.
EDIT: My prediction for the fifth new SF4 character is Haggar. He is the only non-guest character that Capcom would consider putting into the game. He'll have a lariat, SPD, and a pipe-related special move.
He'll be T-Hawk tier
Not shocking at all. Him stating on twitter multiple times that he finally has the storm infinite down, and him dropping it every time in tournament lets me know that he's willing to try it every time to prove he can do it in a tournament. I've seriously seen him try it every time, and drop 90% of them. I was more surprised when he didn't go for the infinite that one round, and kept it simple.
RellyRell28
Banned
Watching the restream of the top 8 for Marvel man this is a classic
Nah. Angelic did really well at Curleh Mustache and has slowly been doing better over the last year. He was also in my pool last year (I think, or a HAZ teammate with the exact same team), so I knew him.
Cloud805 was new being an online warrior and Zak was foreign, so those two are "new", but with legit reasons.
Orpheus Telos
Member
4. Wobbles' performance with Ice Climbers despite how disadvantaged they are against the other characters. Really, really solid play from him; probably the best he's ever been. He deserves the placing he got... the sad thing is, this was his last tournament...
Aw, so no more Wobbles hype for next year? Did he give a reason why he's retiring from tournaments?
riskVSreward
Member
Where there any salty suites this weekend? I saw one on Thursday but it didn't have a single known player so I quickly lost interest. Any Marvel money matches with known players? FT10 or FT20s?
Parallax Scroll
Banned
They weren't streamed, but FChamp and ChrisG both did FT20s against Nemo for something like $1K.
"God's Beard!"
Member
But it's not the same as Storm. Justin played his team better than I've seen anybody play anything in Marvel. His fundamentals way outclass anybody else in that top 8. The closest character to something Justin would play is probably Trish and he used to play her.
Lol @ FChamp in the KDZ interview. KDZ too strong. 28 tournament wins in 3 months, god DAMN.
Kalamari
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";70605541]
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.[/QUOTE]
Something I find very unique about Daigo is the reason he chooses the character he does. During the NYU interview with Seth Killian, Daigo mentioned that there was a point in his career when he learned he could gain more respect as a skilled player if he played characters that were more risky and less safe. Another player explained to him that he was not as fun to play against due to his safe play style and that others would never truly recognize him as a better player unless he changed.
To him, there is a certain way that Street Fighter should be played. He could play Akuma in a style similar to Infiltration and it would get him tournament victories, but he feels it wouldn't benefit him in the long-run.
Same with Daigo. Dude just loves shotos.[/QUOTE]
Something I find very unique about Daigo is the reason he chooses the character he does. During the NYU interview with Seth Killian, Daigo mentioned that there was a point in his career when he learned he could gain more respect as a skilled player if he played characters that were more risky and less safe. Another player explained to him that he was not as fun to play against due to his safe play style and that others would never truly recognize him as a better player unless he changed.
To him, there is a certain way that Street Fighter should be played. He could play Akuma in a style similar to Infiltration and it would get him tournament victories, but he feels it wouldn't benefit him in the long-run.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Justin's Akuma assist didn't seem to accomplish much in the Flocker match though.
It accomplished a lot. Took a lot of ground options away from Flocker's Zero. Kept him honest, which is more than half the battle. Flocker stuffing Akuma is better for Justin than Zero pressing buttons unchecked.
I heard that the hotel internet was terrible so no one bothered streaming.
Seasoned Badger
Member
I hope they get rid of GFWL or I'm just going to the PSN DLC upgrade.
Back from Las Vegas early. This was easily the best Evo in years. Everything from Bronson's run in TTT2 to Reynald's comeback from 0-2 in losers to JUSTIN WOOOONNNNNGGGG to Xian wrecking shop in the SF4 finals.... And so much happened in between that I could probably spend a whole day recollecting all the crazy moments I witnessed this weekend. I say this all the time, but Evo is the best gaming event of the year, every year, which makes Evo 2013 one of the best gaming events EVER.
I am destroyed and I need to sleep. Can't wait for next year.
I am destroyed and I need to sleep. Can't wait for next year.
