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Fighting Games Weekly | June 1-7 | QAisTopTier
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That Dude John
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I suppose that's fair.
Slamtastic
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CountBlack
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I'm not what the tabloids say
I only used him because of pride
my battle rifle tho
Everywhere I go I hear Hard Corps Uprising is godlike. Overhype or are you personally not a fan?
I thought the demo for it sucked, so you might like it.
I don't understand why having them is a bad thing.
I'd rather renounce the genre than see a screenshot of that from 5 miles away.They can make a phone game version of that stuff and i at least won't care.
shaowebb
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Oddly enough, I hear all the jabs coming after ASW for adding mechanics to their characters in fighting games, but I don't hear anyone bitching about the gimmicks each character has in the new Killer Instinct. Either they are playing it and it gets a pass because its not anime, or they are not playing it either but it gets a pass because its not anime is how I see it.
Just pointing out that if you really want to make having character specific gimmicks into a bitching point then you should probably at least be consistent.
Just pointing out that if you really want to make having character specific gimmicks into a bitching point then you should probably at least be consistent.
I think it's that their fighting games have a ton of a mechanics, not that characters have unique mechanics.
NetherRealm and other studios while we're at it should just put up their own MUGEN chracter rosters as downloads so we can settle this.
I was thinking that watching KI at CB, I was like "I have no idea what these chars are doing, they all do their own shit." Too bad nobody here really plays it or keeps up with it.
People greatly over-exaggerate ASW complexity anyways. The games have like 3 universal gauges, and the char specific stuff is generally pretty contained. BB is by far the worst offender, and it wouldn't be so bad if the roster weren't so huge.
You guys wanna see a mess, go look around a bit and tell me when you figure out everything happening in Nitro+ Blasters. I think the ASW hate comes from ASW being the most visible of the more complex games, and the current cool kid thing to say being "less complexity and more straight forward honesty".
People greatly over-exaggerate ASW complexity anyways. The games have like 3 universal gauges, and the char specific stuff is generally pretty contained. BB is by far the worst offender, and it wouldn't be so bad if the roster weren't so huge.
You guys wanna see a mess, go look around a bit and tell me when you figure out everything happening in Nitro+ Blasters. I think the ASW hate comes from ASW being the most visible of the more complex games, and the current cool kid thing to say being "less complexity and more straight forward honesty".
I love Victor's theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSdgXL24yIU&app=desktop
Oh shit, it's this weekend! The first one was hype
shaowebb
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And KI doesn't a lot of mechanics?
Blaz Blue
- Bursts by hitting 4 buttons to combo break
- Counter assaults that knock folks away at the cost of meter
- Negative Penalty for too many defensive actions in a row
- Instant blocking
- Ability to cancel into other actions from various states including if attacks hit simultaneously and clash
KI
- Combo breakers
- shadow moves
- instinct
- combo enders/auto double design
- Combos having a visual gauge that fills stating when it will end and how light/heavy attacks impact this meter differently
- lockout
All games have stuff. Taking jabs at ASW for having mechanics per character and system mechanics and not stating the same sort of talk for other fighters isn't exactly fair IMO.
Coffeeling
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Who makes the list obviously influences it, Ogawa for example constantly rates I-No higher than most and is prone to rating Sol high. These can both be troublesome matchups for Zato.
Hidden Missiles okay, Pineberry is not. I see, I see.
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Bao is still a shit though.
This.
This.
This.
This.
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Yup.
SF4, by a long, long shot.
13 and 2k2um at least are not forced top tier picks - they do have clear "best"/godtier characters (EX Iori, Karate for 13, K'/Kasumi/Nameless for 2k2um), but the top tier is right behind them and pretty huge. In 2k2um for example the god+top tier is 21 characters out of ~60, and the list of really good characters in 13 is very long, too.
"Character X? Yeah, he/she's pretty good" is pretty much a running joke here in Finland because everyone has something dirty up their sleeve.
*glances at list of characters he plays*
(o_o )
( o_o)
Uh, Faust, I guess? Does he count?
This actually brought to mind another question: For games you play, if you were banned from playing the characters you play, who would you play instead? (Please list what you're switching from, it's the point of the question)
GG: Faust => Sol, Elphelt, Zato or Ky
KOF13: EXIori/Karate/Kim/Benimaru => King/Saiki/Yuri or King/Saiki/Claw
2002UM: K'/Kasumi/Nameless => Iori/Benimaru/O.Chris/King
3S: Chun-li => Akuma
UNIEL: Gordeau => Hilda, Eltnum
Melee: Fox => Falco/Marth (/Pikachu/Sheik)
Brawl: Meta Knight => Pikachu (Marth)
VSav: Zabel => Lilith
ST: Claw => Ryu, Sim
Professor Beef
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ASW has a history of that bullshit. KI does not, and most of the stuff you listed is from the newest game anyways.
Of course. But for people to start complaining about KI they'd have to be able to actually play it. As much as I like the game being on the X1 without an old fanbase to prop it up or a truly unique game style like Smash hurt the game.
For many older KOF players- the missing moves make the game less fun. XIII Maxima wasn't very fun due to no scramble, a pathetic command grab. Add in that so many random hits lead to loops- it made the game really feel one-dimensional and boring to me. Most of the old SNK heads I know played XIII not because they liked it over the older games, but because they wanted SNK and KOF to live.
Jeffry in VF, Maxima in KOF.
Anyone not named Yujiro Hanma in Garouden Breakblow: Fist or Twist.
SquirrelSoup
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http://gematsu.com/2015/06/guilty-gear-xrd-revelator-adds-new-character-jack-o
Jack-O? "Comical attacks"? That.. doesn't sound amazing.
Jack-O? "Comical attacks"? That.. doesn't sound amazing.
Aren't May, Faust, and El enough?
Lostconfused
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I kinda have to agree. GG seems to be already well stocked on irreverent comedy.
Not to mention the characters that were in previous games.
Hidden missiles is OK because I'm good enough at marvel to deal with them. Pineberry was bullshit because I sucked too badly at xrd to beat it.
Elph still S-tier anyway and I stopped complaining after the patch! Pre-patch Elph was like vanilla Wolverine levels of a character winning matches rather than the player. Viscant won locals with pre-patch Elph which essentially proves her prior illegitimacy.... kappa?
That's an interesting question.
GG: Faust => Zato.... maybe? Would probably fuck around with a bunch of characters while I waited for them to add someone who better suited me, TBH.
Marvel: Doom/Dante/Strider => hard to say since I've been playing the team since November 2011
. The only sub team I play without sharing any of the same characters is Mag/Storm/RR.Karst:
Just a suggestion: try not to upload too many videos at once. It cheapens your content and is a bit frustrating for subscribers when they feel like they have to scroll, endlessly, to get passed a series of uploads that they may not be interested at that very moment. They might be inclined to just ignore your channel once it pops up in their feed altogether, at some point.
Just a suggestion: try not to upload too many videos at once. It cheapens your content and is a bit frustrating for subscribers when they feel like they have to scroll, endlessly, to get passed a series of uploads that they may not be interested at that very moment. They might be inclined to just ignore your channel once it pops up in their feed altogether, at some point.
Name's already going to comical enough on its own. At least she wasn't added to UNIEL, or we'd have to talk about a "Jack-O FF".
stn
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USF4: Akuma
SFxT: Guile x Paul
MKX: Liu Kang
IGAU: Bane
ST: Ken
HDR: T. Hawk
I have multiple mains for almost every game, hence I'm only posting the new characters I would play after the ban.
KOFXIII probably has my favorite iterations of most of the characters to date, especially in the gameplay/style department. So many characters got a unique twist or thing to their gameplay which has made them more memorable imo, and the EX and drive cancel systems have really expanded and freshened up the combo system as well.
I have been a fan of Maxima since his introduction in 99 and he is just so badass in this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08KjKQ-L1R4
Vice also feels very unique with her anywhere juggle approach to gameplay, easily making her one of the most dangerous characters in the game to the point where you literally become scared to press buttons or leave the ground when she has meter. And her combo system is such that aside from doing excellent damage she also builds a lot of meter while doing said combos.
The list just goes on and on, the characters in this game are just too fun.
I have been a fan of Maxima since his introduction in 99 and he is just so badass in this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08KjKQ-L1R4
Vice also feels very unique with her anywhere juggle approach to gameplay, easily making her one of the most dangerous characters in the game to the point where you literally become scared to press buttons or leave the ground when she has meter. And her combo system is such that aside from doing excellent damage she also builds a lot of meter while doing said combos.
The list just goes on and on, the characters in this game are just too fun.
Cosmo Clock 21
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Nitroplus waifus coming to PS3/4, makes Super Sonico playable
http://gematsu.com/2015/06/nitroplus-blasterz-coming-ps4-ps3
http://gematsu.com/2015/06/nitroplus-blasterz-coming-ps4-ps3
sixteen-bit
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Super Sonico confirmed but what about Hyper Knuckleso?
a jeff player won toryuken, taking out VF1 veteran J6!
I made a thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1055911
I made it the same time as the Fallout 4 news happened. It's DOA.
Lostconfused
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It's ok that thread will be a blood bath whenever the developer studio is announced.
sixteen-bit
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Anyone know the lead SKU for SFV? The horrible thought came to mind where Other Ocean would be handling the PC port, lmao.
Lostconfused
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They don't have any PC ports listed on their site, so I doubt they'd take that one on.
Unless they do, then I would expect the PC to explode, or get your OS drive wiped.
Edit: Oh and the fallout thread is already falling apart.
Isn't Sony suppose to help with development? I would say it's the PS4 version.
Not so much development as financing iirc.
But yeah, it would make sense for PS4 to be the lead.
stn
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I was playing on XBL nonstop with all the top players for a good 2-3 years or so. At one point a lot of the really good players vanished, most of them just went back to ST full-time. In fact, most of my XBL friends list consists of inactive HDR player accounts.
Karsticles
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Mr. X, the problem with the "make them work for it" attitude is that Capcom isn't even willing to fund the game at this point. This is the company that thinks Americans don't like Mega man. If folks actually boycotted due to SFV being underwhelming, the suits at Capcom would just say "wow, time to get rid of Street Fighter". It is a frustrating moment when the company that literally created fighting games might disappear from the field, but that is the dilemma fans face.
Sounds like MFing Platinum the Trinity, worst character ever made.
Sort of. I can't play "basic" characters well. They kind of need to be weird and unorthodox for me to do well with them. In Marvel, I can't play Weaker or Nova for crap, even though they are completely one-dimensional. Though it takes a lot of practice, I do better with the weird guys usually. Even though my Zato is mediocre, I promise you I would struggle far more with Millia or Ky.
ãInaba Residentã
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Twelve in 3s, Mariah in Jojo's
Lets see..
Vampire Savior: Q-Bee
Ultra Street Fighter IV: Boxer
Blazblue: Arakune
Guilty Gear Xrd: Leo
I never look at tier lists. I can tell by character design who I am going to play. Ninjas and fast martial arts types. Give a character a rekka move/series, and I'm all in. Don't give no fucks how good they are.
Putting Angel back in KoF would be the end of me playing anything else.
Personally I tend to avoid top tiers because I get so sick of fighting against them that I don't feel like playing as them.
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