Really? How do they... compute? I count laptops as PCs, btw.
ChrisG won't win Marvel.
I will bet any amount of money.
20 max
I'll take that bet.
max bet. 
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Really? How do they... compute? I count laptops as PCs, btw.
I'll take that bet.
Team ChrisG can be contested against by Team Nemo. You can also contest with a team centered around Jam Session and or Vajra.
But yes that team has no natural counter. It's the best team in the game and it's in fact the "perfect" team in the game in terms of synergy and strength... or at least as perfect as a team can be in the game. Morrigan + Doom has "counters" and Vergil has "counters" but there's no counter to the full team.
I dream of an MvC3 without Missiles.
They got some real, real, killers for ST this time.
Stabby McSter
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Does FGC GAF have a bookie?max bet.
DryEyeRelief
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No one is beating Chris in UMvC3 if he makes it to grand finals in winners
Does FGC GAF have a bookie?
I'll honor it, on the off-chance I lose.
PayPal works wonders.
They BOTH exist... unfortunately. I'd take a world with Zero May Cry at the top, if it meant Missiles got nerfed all the way back to "reasonable" tier.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Smartphones
I want a good smartphone fighting game. Top down design, none of that virtual dpad / stylish mode bullshit.
I guess I just cannot conceive of it, yet. Phone screens are too small, you cannot type on one (I mean a "real" keyboard, and Word), and you cannot do any higher end programs on them, let alone graphics. Hell, most don't even have a "Forwards" button to compliment the "Back" one.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
They definitely use PCs for work productivity, but high end PCs for home use seem pretty infrequent.
I think PC gaming is on the rise though; PSO2 is a big moneymaker and has ads plastered everywhere for NVidia and Alienware.
When I say good I mean something that didn't look terrible like that did. Look at the design differences between Espgaluda and DDP Max for shmups for example.
As far as I can tell there has only been three times that ChrisG has lost in Grand finals in Winners.
One was against Yipes Summer Jam. 2nd was against Flocker at ECT V. 3rd was against Justin Wong at Winter Brawl 6 but it was back when ChrisG had Akuma instead of Vergil on his team.
Even then you can see this hasn't happened in a long time. The odds are very high that if ChrisG makes it that far in Winners he will end up winning.
Here are the placings of the 5 people who have made Top 32 all three years:
Viscant -- 1st in 2011, 25th in 2012, 17th/25th in 2013 (I could've sworn he lost to Darryn in '13, but the official bracket says he won)
Justin Wong -- 3rd, 7th, 2nd
Filipino Champ -- 5th, 1st, 5th
Flocker -- 13th, 5th, 1st
Chris G -- 17th, 3rd, 5th
And these are all the people (I'm pretty sure) who made Top 32 in 2 out of 3 years and their placings:
PR Balrog -- 2nd, 33rd, 9th
Combofiend -- 4th, 4th, Did Not Enter (Working for Capcom)
Noel Brown -- 5th, 17th, Did Not Enter (That thing that happened at CEO)
X-Ray -- 7th, 33rd, 25th
Stone -- 13th, 17th, 0-2 in pools (was likely DQ'd as it was an 8am pool)
Y2Jay -- 17th, 7th, 65th
Eliver Ling -- 25th, 49th, 17th
Infrit -- Unknown, 2nd, 25th
Scrubeks -- Unknown, 13th, 13th
Knives -- Unknown, 13th, 17th
IFC Yipes -- Unknown, 17th, 13th
atomic moth
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If he is winners side grand finals and wins, I owe you a dollar.
If he is winners side grand finals and someone beats him, you owe me $20.
Deal?
yepppppp
like i said, diiiiisgusting
i dont think team nemo really can fight the chrisg team on an equal footing and that nemo's victory last evo was mostly chris not knowing the matchup but it's hard to tell because there hasn't been a time where chris has played nemo recently and they're basically the respective representatives of those teams.
edit 2: i guess contest means 'can put up a fight' vs 'can fight on equal footing' so that's my bad. but yeah those assists and nemo have a fighting chance but it sure as hell ain't equal unless your name is zero or vergil with them ;_;
actually i think some variation on a zero team is the best team, but morri/doom is so close to it in terms of BS that ultimately it doesn't matter because one of them is dominating anyways
plus the whole lacking that kind of representative thing for that char
also stone couldn't make it to evo last year so that's why he's not in the repped top 32/0-2 in pools. same with jan. they got screwed over by their sponsor at the time, more or less. i think they're both making it out this year, though
edit:
chris g has off days where he's just being sloppy just like everyone else. it's just he usually wins during those too + his team minimalizes the damage bein' out of practice does vs. most players
senor taxi seemed to have a brief period of good showings at trb but then i stopped watching. does he still do well there? hm
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Nope.
But I'm thinking of buying it. I'm not sure if I want to get familiar with the game beforehand or go in fresh with Xrd.
"God's Beard!"
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If you think people don't prepare for wong you're crazy.
you really gotta make it out to EVO sometime, the biggest event and we never bet
What day are you arriving / leaving? And are you staying at the LVH ?
Karsticles
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PSN Karsticles for USFIV lobby.
ipitydatfu
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i hope marn doesnt take that rash of his to evo.
dats nasty
dats nasty
Professor Beef
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I'll join up
About to have dinner, so I'll be on in about an hour.
How could you forget PR Rog making him cry at NEC 12?
"God's Beard!"
Member
Practice blocking low a lot lol
Professor Beef
Banned
block low
Fgc's most respected fraud.
DryEyeRelief
Member
not worth it.
that's how you prepare for Storm
The reason why I consider Morrigan/Doom/Vergil the best team in the game is because not only does it have no natural counters it defeats various lower tiered teams so harshly that it gives you an insane leg up in a tournament.
Like say if you had a theoretical match up chart for Morrigan/Doom/Vergil vs every possible team in the game... that team beats SO MANY teams 9-1, 8-2 and has no match up that would be considered worse than 5.5. This is not the case with a Zero team where a Zero team might win a ton of match ups... but it's not as lop sided. Many characters can contest Zero and have an easier time hitting him than Morrigan/Doom. I say the exact same for team Nemo where it can contest just about every other team in the game but the team doesn't trash many teams harshly even mid tier teams.
What I mean is that say you have an optimized Tron team. I like Tron beating a Zero team MUCH MUCH better than I like a Tron team beating Morrigan/Doom/Vergil team. Despite this being a top tier focused game you are still likely to run into these lower teams and a Zero team is more susceptible to getting defeated by these teams.
I still think Zero is the best character in the game because he's the best overall point character. The main reason for Zero not being in the best team of the game is because his best partner is Dante... not Doom who supports Vergil much better than Dante does. Zero himself does not support Vergil as well as Morrigan does with Vergil (she can supply with him an unending supply of Spiral Swords). It's really a matter of synergy... if the game was a 2 v 2 game then I would consider Zero/Dante as best in the game EASILY. His toolset overall is simply better than Morrigan's.
Like say if you had a theoretical match up chart for Morrigan/Doom/Vergil vs every possible team in the game... that team beats SO MANY teams 9-1, 8-2 and has no match up that would be considered worse than 5.5. This is not the case with a Zero team where a Zero team might win a ton of match ups... but it's not as lop sided. Many characters can contest Zero and have an easier time hitting him than Morrigan/Doom. I say the exact same for team Nemo where it can contest just about every other team in the game but the team doesn't trash many teams harshly even mid tier teams.
What I mean is that say you have an optimized Tron team. I like Tron beating a Zero team MUCH MUCH better than I like a Tron team beating Morrigan/Doom/Vergil team. Despite this being a top tier focused game you are still likely to run into these lower teams and a Zero team is more susceptible to getting defeated by these teams.
I still think Zero is the best character in the game because he's the best overall point character. The main reason for Zero not being in the best team of the game is because his best partner is Dante... not Doom who supports Vergil much better than Dante does. Zero himself does not support Vergil as well as Morrigan does with Vergil (she can supply with him an unending supply of Spiral Swords). It's really a matter of synergy... if the game was a 2 v 2 game then I would consider Zero/Dante as best in the game EASILY. His toolset overall is simply better than Morrigan's.
Bananamerica is the favorite for this.
ipitydatfu
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Fuck thawk
Professor Beef
Banned
DEY SPINNIN DEY SPINNIN
Kinda minor compared to the others but better than nothing. Nintendo should drop some money for the smash tourney.
ipitydatfu
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Professor Beef
Banned
Can you blame me for using Ultra when you were standing right there?
IIRC, he lives pretty far from the venue.
SloaneRisette
Member
That one round from you was godlike
And I'm by far the worst person in this lobby ;~;
yeah i totally agree with all of this, especially in terms of current application
the theory i've got is zero/morrigan/dante, which allows for perma-ish sogenmu and absurd unblockable situations on characters which i think is actually even more lopsided than astral vision patterns in terms of shutting down non-top tier characters.
it's a significantly more front-loaded team than chris g's but theoretically it trades that comeback factor for just not being contestable at all in the point war which i think is a pretty fair trade given just how effective zero's incoming is (and the potential for creating an unblockable situation on incoming with that type of sogenmu availability)
like i think sogenmu + jam session zero beats astraled up morrigan, but normally his resources run out long before hers so if he's got something that allows him to continue it then that's the best team
buuuuut it's significantly more effort intensive than morridoom/vergil so i don't think the team is ever gonna happen
also overall i feel lit doesn't matter because the difference between this theory team and the team that's actually been actualized would ultimately be pretty minor in practice since it's still some top tier chars winning in a really dumb way
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