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Fighting Games Weekly | June 30 - July 6 | Judge, Juri & EGsecutioner

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Have fun! Enjoy the Caesar's buffet.

P.S After many encounters with Vegas I have came to the conclusion that there only one thing I've learn about Vegas. GIVE ME BOTTLE SERVICE OR GIVE ME DEATH!

My friend wants me to get wasted, he basically said I have no excuse not to be since I wont be walking xD
 
Q if you have the chance, wanna get some USF4 games in during the weekend?

Same goes for Beef, Shouta, and anyone else from FGC-GAF who'll be there of course.
 
I'm the exact opposite -- I can't understand why anyone, even with gajillions of dollars would ever use bottle service. If you're balling so hard that the money is nothing, just buy some help to get your own booze, hookers and blow.

It's not the same MAN!

I can't even go to clubs here in Seattle anymore. It's like what the fuck is this crap.

My last trip had 16 of us though so bottle service for 5 days straight wasn't that bad... I mean split it 16 ways. Just hit the minimum and stop is what we did.

My friend wants me to get wasted, he basically said I have no excuse not to be since I wont be walking xD

Yea good plan!
 
As a counter-point, how many companies that aren't Valve do this? It may be incredibly smart, but how many communities can actually sustain something like that? Would -- or could -- Street Fighter be big enough? I don't think it is not, but there's a non-zero chance that it could (hell, the genre is still seeing growth as it is, even given all of the intrinsic things against it) but I think it's close enough that it would be a very interesting experiment.

That and that sort of open, collaborative development process is the exact opposite of how must Japanese developers operate, so it'll happen in roughly two thousand never.
What you said makes a lot of sense. I learned my craft from unreal tournment modding and counter strike weapon skins. I suppose my thinking is more western in terms of finding creativity and supporting the level modding scene. I don't know how japan fosters their game development community.
There used to be a time where you could download mods to completely change a game. I guess now there is DayZ or Gary's mod.
The fear would be having the SDK open then piracy but having an exporter that can take a maya or max file+texture files. Even a UV map that you can paint would be fun. Again this is with the thinking of havin the ability like steam does.
Just thinking as I am trying to get a two year old asleep.
 

casperOne

Member

A nice read. I felt that your knowledge and passion for sticks before joining Mad Catz was severely underrepresented though.

How the FUCK am I supposed to get up to no good while I'm in Vegas if they're scheduling shit during my debacuhery time?
Well I suppose drug dealers and hookers are available all the time anyhow.

Vegas is open 24 hours a day. I know I won't have a problem. =)


There's no way that Slasher was the only one doing this. He was just the one that got caught and therefore, the fall guy. Foolish that he got caught, but still, there's no way that I believe that he was acting alone.

Spooky said OneFrameLink has something cool planned for Evo, and it's something people ask for a lot. So it's probably marvel

OneFrameLink is making the Marvel patch? Awesome!

It's "One Frame Link", damn it (and see below).

To my mind, would have to be brackets/results you can follow.

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You'll all like it though, I promise.

Smedwicks: I make sure to read every page on FGW, but I never read the Marvel patch notes, no way am I touching that, too many conflicting feels.
 
Looks like I'll be working the Aksys booth at Evo (right after working our booth at AX...fuck me). Drop by and say hi, or just stop to laugh at my pain. I'll be the bald fat white guy...

/shameless self-promotion.
 

Rhapsody

Banned
Next year I hope to hang out with you guys. All this sounds fun.
Looks like I'll be working the Aksys booth at Evo (right after working our booth at AX...fuck me). Drop by and say hi, or just stop to laugh at my pain. I'll be the bald fat white guy...

/shameless self-promotion.

Is Xrd at the booth on Day 1 of AX?
 

casperOne

Member
Sorry CasperOne, too used to it from the url :(

And it's "casperOne" =)

The conditioning must go on.

Damn. The impossible dream of brackets in the biggest fighting game tournament in the world continues.

I agree, this would be nice, and perhaps, one day.

In my mind though, this is going to be much cooler.

I'll leave it to you guys to figure out though.

Only a week and a day away! Tik-tok!
 
So Im going to lay out some prop bets & see if we have any takers. BTW to avoid another UltraDavid situation bets are confirmed via PMs & confirmation from both sides.

1.) No US players will make Top 8 in Ultra SF4.

2.) No Japanese players make Top 8 in Marvel

3.) No TRB Regulars make Top 8 in Marvel(Cause they all suck).

4.) 16 Bit doesn't make Top 8 cause he sucks

5.) Equal or more Wolverines in Top 8 than Zeroes

6.) Over 1.5 "Gods" in Top 8 for Marvel & SF

7.) US will win Tekken.

8.) Killer Instinct Finals will suck

9.) Smash finals will be the longest final.

10.) Cinder will be revealed at EVO

11.) Lord Knight wont make Top 8 in BlazBlue.
 

Busaiku

Member
Looks like I'll be working the Aksys booth at Evo (right after working our booth at AX...fuck me). Drop by and say hi, or just stop to laugh at my pain. I'll be the bald fat white guy...

/shameless self-promotion.

Is the Bridget trailer gonna be during Evo, or like right after.
 

Dahbomb

Member
6.) Over 1.5 "Gods" in Top 8 for Marvel/SF4
How do you quantify this?

Are you saying that 75% of top 8 placers in combined Marvel and SF4 will be gods (so that would be 12 out of 16)?

Because I will take this bet for $100,000 if that's how you are phrasing it. There aren't 12 gods combined in those two games.


If by 1.5 you mean 3 gods total in both games but you are dividing it by two for number of games (so 1 god in SF4 and 2 in Marvel mean an average of 1.5 gods in both games) then that is an extremely safe bet to make and almost no one would take you on it.


You need to first quantify the exact number or ratio of gods you are talking about then also list the players you refer as gods in each game.
 
How do you quantify this?

Are you saying that 75% of top 8 placers in combined Marvel and SF4 will be gods (so that would be 12 out of 16)?

Because I will take this bet for $100,000 if that's how you are phrasing it. There aren't 12 gods combined in those two games.


If by 1.5 you mean 3 gods total in both games but you are dividing it by two for number of games (so 1 god in SF4 and 2 in Marvel mean an average of 1.5 gods in both games) then that is an extremely safe bet to make and almost no one would take you on it.


You need to first quantify the exact number or ratio of gods you are talking about then also list the players you refer as gods in each game.

You clearly never bet. It means 2 SF gods in SF Top 8 & 2 Marvel gods in Marvel Top 8.
 
How do you quantify this?

Are you saying that 75% of top 8 placers in combined Marvel and SF4 will be gods (so that would be 12 out of 16)?

Because I will take this bet for $100,000 if that's how you are phrasing it. There aren't 12 gods combined in those two games.


If by 1.5 you mean 3 gods total in both games but you are dividing it by two for number of games (so 1 god in SF4 and 2 in Marvel mean an average of 1.5 gods in both games) then that is an extremely safe bet to make and almost no one would take you on it.


You need to first quantify the exact number or ratio of gods you are talking about then also list the players you refer as gods in each game.

Wait why the fuck did we all put up for Q to go to EVO when your ass sitting on 100 stacks.

THE FUCK HOMIE!
 
My guess for what ofl is doing. If it's not right, maybe think about doing it with the caveat that I know nothing about websites and if this is even viable

Rather than a giving out a pot bonus for the final pot, have a bonus for players/ matches that meet certain criteria, judged by online polls on your website. Assuming ofl.com has the capability to have up to date stats based on the results of the poll. The inspiration for this is curleh west when yipes gives prizes; where this is based on the feeling/votes of the viewers instead of how yipes feels

Examples of what bonuses could be used for. Obviously would change based on the game, but I'll use marvel as the example.

$1000 for the hypest comeback
$1000 for craziest/ swaggiest combo or new tech, performed in game
$1000 match of the night of whatever (500 per player)
$100 for best commentator lmao


Let me use last year to illustrate how I see it working

Before evo, everyone knows about there bonuses, so players will know to show their crazy and innovative shit on stream

As matches start happening, viewers go to ofl site ( or maybe it can work in the twitch chat??? Iuno, I'm the not the expert) and vote/rank based on the what the bonuses are.

This data should the be easily viewable So commentators can then integrate into their commentary.

Combofiend or magus or ultradavid or whoever did marvel evo last year

" that last match was insane. I can't beeline that Justin beat Chris G, but accoriding to the viewers who voted, cloud805 beating champ was still the hypest match of the night so far and they are in line to win the bonus. Let's see if any of the top 4 matches can beat that"

"Looks like cloud is in the running to make some money as not only was his match vs champ voted the as the hypest, but that insane incoming mixup with Dante against Phoenix was voted as the craziest new tech, beating out angelic's shuma combo"


Obviously this is pretty basic since I don't know shit if something like this is feasible, but I think it does a lot for everyone in the Fgc

Players- Money available for players who prolly wouldn't get paid through top 8 bonuses...... The dude in this thread vs Gandhi might get voted as hypest match and they would both get paid lmao. Players are rewarded for all hard work they do when coming up with crazy combos/ tech if it works on stream and the viewers like it. Allows players to have legitimate stats based on how the viewer sees them, which can potentially be used for sponserships (yipes rarely makes top 8 but his matches always get voted high.....which can allow him to say to sponsors "I might not win as much but my time on stream is still valuable based on these metrics")

Viewers- allows us to interact in real time with the tournament and players playing. Allows us to have a numeric value for "hype", even if it's only coming from paid chat members/ a small number of people actually voting. Had the potential to give us crazier moments of hype as players try to do crazy shit to win the bonuses.

Tournament organizers- if done properly, has the potential to curb pot splitting and collusion as players will always be wanting to win the bonuses.

Grand finals is Ricky vs Justin (hopefully this never happens again)

Instead of giving us the lame shit we usually get, we might get to see some legit gameplay as they both have motivation to put on a show for the viewers. Too bad it's still Rufus mirrors tho lol. Shoulda used a better example but you get the gist.

Commentators- allows them to interact with the viewers on a more intimate level. As stated in the example above, they would have access to the data right away and incorporate it into their commentary

Sponsors- another way for them to see who exactly the viewers like lol. Take Gandhi lol. I've only seen him once but they shit was so hype and if he got voted for hypest match for that one tournament, a sponsor might see that and fly him out to more tournaments cuz there is semi-legit proof that people like him lol. This is an extreme example but whatever

Casper one- brings traffic to your site lol

Pm me if you wanna talk some more
 

MarkMan

loves Arcade Sticks
A nice read. I felt that your knowledge and passion for sticks before joining Mad Catz was severely underrepresented though.

I know you're pretty old school but didn't know you knew about those days / how nuts I was, lol. Those were the days.

<3
 

xCobalt

Member

This sort of format would work best in an invitational or restricted to top 8 only. It wouldn't really be fair since the only players that are eligible are those who play on stream. There are dozens of other stations and matches going on but those players wouldn't get the chance to win the bonus. Bonuses work for the UFC because all of the fights are shown to the audience.
 
Obviously this is pretty basic since I don't know shit if something like this is feasible, but I think it does a lot for everyone in the Fgc

I was thinking along those lines with the twitter comment... maybe he is using twitch chat instead ;)

In theory, the only problem I see with what you wrote is certain players would be good at using their "loyal followers" to scoop any such prizes.
 

xCobalt

Member
I was thinking along those lines with the twitter comment... maybe he is using twitch chat instead ;)

In theory, the only problem I see with what you wrote is certain players would be good at using their "loyal followers" to scoop any such prizes.

I think it involves the twitch chat too. I forgot what event it was but casper used the chat to poll viewers on who they thought would win a match. He could essentially ask anything during evo such as which pool or which match they would like to see.
 
He could essentially ask anything during evo such as which pool or which match they would like to see.

This Would be godlike. Remember in 2012 when latif was the runner up from the year before and his march with Daigo wasn't shown?

Before latif became a fraud and that match actually had meaning?

People were salty about that not being shown.

I swear if we miss a single smug or haitani or louffy match against another top player, Ima be pissed.
 
I gotta stop playing AE PC for a while. Just played against a gen dude with this super creepy serial killer whisper the whole time, kinda weirded me out.

i'm playing godsbeard *unintelligible mumbling* ok ok ok

I'm gonna
ok
*mumbling*
 
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