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Fighting Games Weekly | May 11-17 | Sticks and Stones Break Zangief's Bones
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Nocal?
Hellshingu
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Cen-Cal.
There's a bit of old New Yorker art describing the perspective from the East coast - the US, looking from the perspective of New York City out to the horizon, where the west coast is the horizon. Chicago is "close" to the east coast stuff, but still a bit less relevant. Then, there's a wide stretch of nothing until you hit the major CA cities.
CountBlack
Member
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
You got bodied b
Professor Beef
Banned
omg, that mallet smash that sailed right over him
"God's Beard!"
Member
How do you think I feel as a Hwang/Assassin main?
Tragic.
Wait Jebailey works for Iron Galaxy now? When did that happen? Boy I've been out of the loop 
The retail game changes very infrequently. The Beta is well.......a Beta. That's the place for experimentation and community feedback. Aside from # of characters, the game has enough additional content and improvements that its basically a sequel of itself at this point. I'm not sure its fair to expect BnBs to be the same between like SFII and SFIII. I'm certainly a scrub tier player but I think the Beta had a very positive effect on the retail game and that's why I'm glad Street Fighter V is having a Beta too (especially since it might not get an Arcade run through to knock out the obvious first-pass balance problems). A Smash Beta would be amazing too - I really wish the competitive community were able to give more feedback towards that game - it can only improve it (though I still very much enjoy it as is).
Skullgirls is the worst in this area. Even worse than ASW. SO many changes just for the sake of changes. I stopped playing Skullgirls for 6 months, went back, and all my BNBs now broke IPS. It's really annoying, because the thing I hate most in fighting games is figuring out and mastering BNBs. I want to learn them ASAP and then just focus on mastering the neutral and setups.
I am okay with balance changes, but it should never be anything that makes me relearn my character. I should never have to sit in training mode for hours just because of a patch (obvious exception: an infinite is removed). It makes me feel like I waste my time learning things when they don't stay relevant. If you have to change something like a combo system, change it once a year max, and make the changes as small as possible.
I know Smash 4 has had very few changes in its patches so far, but I adore that. For most characters, the only change has been % damage done by an attack, which can increase or decrease their viability without changing how the character plays. I wouldn't mind drastic changes to a few Smash 4 characters, but I respect how minor the adjustments have been so far - just frame data and % damage. Sheik could use some frame data adjustments...
The retail game changes very infrequently. The Beta is well.......a Beta. That's the place for experimentation and community feedback. Aside from # of characters, the game has enough additional content and improvements that its basically a sequel of itself at this point. I'm not sure its fair to expect BnBs to be the same between like SFII and SFIII. I'm certainly a scrub tier player but I think the Beta had a very positive effect on the retail game and that's why I'm glad Street Fighter V is having a Beta too (especially since it might not get an Arcade run through to knock out the obvious first-pass balance problems). A Smash Beta would be amazing too - I really wish the competitive community were able to give more feedback towards that game - it can only improve it (though I still very much enjoy it as is).
CountBlack
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I've become a better player and not only that, a better human being.
i got this
Who where can I come?
This comparison doesn't really hold up because I can still play SF2. When I buy a fighting game and learn a character, yeah typically I think it's fair to expect that I can pop it in 6 months later and play the same character without making significant adjustments.
Major changes aren't inherently good or bad, but I hate relearning something I've previously put time into. There's nothing fun about randomly having my launch button changed and spending time unlearning muscle memory I've already built up.
Professor Beef
Banned
I had to google who Li Long is. Some old-ass man with nunchucks? FOH. Maxi > Methuselah.
I mean I'm just saying that I felt that pain as you soared over his head. Get that runback.
FadedRevolution
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Right now dolphin's netplay is the best bet for TVC online. Dolphin's netplay runs better than some commercial fighting games that are out today. If I had to say its about as good as Tekken Tag's netcode.
You have horrible opinions. Methuselah? Beef, what have you been googling? Li Long is badass.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";163829917]How do you think I feel as a Hwang/Assassin main?[/QUOTE]
Hwang at least got close to Maxi's vote level. These poll responses are ass.
CountBlack
Member
Are you down to travel to buck town? (PM me)
I was like "No way he blocks this shi-
Fair. I can understand the frustration but I don't think it should be off the table if it results in a better product. In my analogy, "SFIII" is strictly better than "SFII" (whereas IRL neither ST nor 3S are strictly better or worse than each other).
Rice-Eater
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Since the Bay Area to Sac is generally considered NorCal then what is that big ass plot of land above Sacramento called?
The lands beyond the wall.
Professor Beef
Banned
A 2 second clip of him swinging the 'chuks at kids to get off his lawn? I'm totally convinced.
No man's land, Siberia v2, etc.
south-oregon
Wait Jebailey works for Iron Galaxy now? When did that happen? Boy I've been out of the loop
The retail game changes very infrequently. The Beta is well.......a Beta. That's the place for experimentation and community feedback. Aside from # of characters, the game has enough additional content and improvements that its basically a sequel of itself at this point. I'm not sure its fair to expect BnBs to be the same between like SFII and SFIII. I'm certainly a scrub tier player but I think the Beta had a very positive effect on the retail game and that's why I'm glad Street Fighter V is having a Beta too (especially since it might not get an Arcade run through to knock out the obvious first-pass balance problems). A Smash Beta would be amazing too - I really wish the competitive community were able to give more feedback towards that game - it can only improve it (though I still very much enjoy it as is).
There's an SFV beta? How do you become eligible?
Owning 5 versions of SF4(soon to be 6) should make me automatically eligible lol
Are you down to travel to buck town? (PM me)
I was like "No way he blocks this shi-"
Sauga?
Bruh, those drops and that spacing on the mallet smash ruined you lol. You could definitely beat his Rose but I think the Rufus match up would be even worse for you. Pressure for days.
Edit:
lol man, that slide was your death sentence.
Yo Vulva, you down to beat my ass tonight?
KidA Seven
Member
it's called that place above sacramento
This dude right here. Totally ditched on me that last time. I see you, Yams
Professor Beef
Banned
Washington.
Shouta
Member
RIP Oregon.
CountBlack
Member
Brampton
I was throwing a lot of slides on his wakeup because vs Rose a slide on her wakeup will beat her backdash, ex spiral and U2 on wakeup lol.
on block tho?
Not to mention dropped links and stuff. We've played a couple times on XBL.. I think I've won once or twice.
I invited you lol. Smedwicks, GB, Last Standing Emperor (a local from Canada) and maybe one more (don't remember sorry) joined in. Hell, I was playing with Anne too before the lobby, we down tonight if you wanna play.
I was throwing a lot of slides on his wakeup because vs Rose a slide on her wakeup will beat her backdash, ex spiral and U2 on wakeup lol.
on block tho?
Not to mention dropped links and stuff. We've played a couple times on XBL.. I think I've won once or twice.
Is it possible to use the slide as a meaty setup? I've seen Cammy do it with hers but it is Cammy lol. Also, wouldn't it be safer to just save meter and use ex mallet smash on wakeup on Justin since he rarely backdashed? I don't know if ex spiral beats it but you can try that since a lot of Elena players love going low.
what was with those twitchy ass uppercuts?
BIGWORM
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Sacramento ~ Eugene (?) ~ Portland ~ Washington.
CountBlack
Member
3f DP punishes a lot of pseudo safe spirals on block.. unless they're perfectly spaced
I could try option select the backdash with slide but I think its too slow. Can't get a read on him within the two rounds, too short.
So a couple of Smash TOs put together a poll to help get the discussion started on a unified Smash 4 poll. It got over 3K responses. Now the poll wasn't the best and could use refinement, but it already had a good number of responses. A Smashboard writer saw it, decided to refine it and then release his own with all the questions and answered copied verbatim with grammar fixes and some of his own questions added to his own. And he didn't credit the original poll or authors. When called on it, he's saying he's quiting Smash 4 writing because he's being 'attacked'. Sigh, lol Smashboards.
Gilty and I had a pretty good conversation at NWM at how terrible everyone on the coasts are at US Geography. Illinois is the Midwest; hell, Pittsburgh is almost considered the Midwest. West Coast = Seattle to San Diego, Southwest would be AZ, Nevada, etc.
Y'all need to take a geography class again.
JeTmAn81
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Loool. We have the best thread on GAF.
KidA Seven
Member
Unified Smash 4? I don't know much about Smash, so is this something other than melee vs smash 4?
I mean a unified releset for Smash 4.
For a community that can't even decide customs vs no customs, 3 stock or 2 stock, even the amount of time for matches, it is important.
South Oregon
theprodigy
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No this is about the Smash 4 community deciding on a common ruleset (i.e. 2 stocks vs 3 stocks, customs/no customs, stagelists, etc.).
although to be perfectly honest, it's not a bad thing for different tournaments to have different rulesets...if not for the pressure to copy the biggest tournaments that's so pervasive (i.e. if Nintendo had a CPT-like system, with several designated "majors" with different rulesets, TOs wouldn't copy one ruleset like for Apex/Evo)
Shouta
Member
Gilty and I had a pretty good conversation at NWM at how terrible everyone on the coasts are at US Geography. Illinois is the Midwest; hell, Pittsburgh is almost considered the Midwest. West Coast = Seattle to San Diego, Southwest would be AZ, Nevada, etc.
Y'all need to take a geography class again.
Well, it's arbitrary for one thing, but our naming scheme is fucked if anything. That's because when these names began to take root, the US was still heavily focused on the east coast, I believe. That's the only way it makes any sense for Illinois to be the Midwest and SoCal not to be a part of the Southwest, lol.
3f DP punishes a lot of pseudo safe spirals on block.. unless they're perfectly spaced
so basically you forgot you were playing the king of footsies.
CountBlack
Member
That 2 seconds has more character than that trash elvis impersonator Maxi has in all his games.
Just to avoid assumptions breeding unnecessary misinformation, I had to negotiate with Microsoft directly for Combo Breaker's partnership. Sign a litany of partnership agreements and NDAs, etc. Iron Galaxy and their employees have nothing to do with what Microsoft is doing funds wise (even if thats hard to believe for some).
My promoting of KI as a big deal to me and the event got their attention via the KI community managers, who I'd been reaching out to for the better part of a year through various channels.
I'm not claiming to be more or less deserving than any other event (and truthfully wish everyone got big promotable opportunities), but is it really that surprising that the KI branded tournament with a Top 16 EVO placing KI player serving as its event organizer wound up working with the KI team at Microsoft?
Shouta
Member
Conspiracy theories are way more interesting though.
But having a Top 16 placer serving as an event organizer helps A LOT. In fact, I think that's the reason why ArcSys did an event at Sakuracon this year for Blazblue instead of another big anime convention. It's because we have multiple Evo Top 8 and Champions in the game up here. Top players can be pretty good for promoting stuff. =P
But having a Top 16 placer serving as an event organizer helps A LOT. In fact, I think that's the reason why ArcSys did an event at Sakuracon this year for Blazblue instead of another big anime convention. It's because we have multiple Evo Top 8 and Champions in the game up here. Top players can be pretty good for promoting stuff. =P
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