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[Clockw0rk]

I always loved this little touch as well. So fun to see 24.8 BILLION damage when you did a combo as Roll

Fun fact: UMvC3 debug mode had an option to turn on combo damage counter similar to this. Wish they would have made it default ;(

 

[alstein]

so much of the jp vf scene is well into their 30's and 40's. "talent" is overvalued, practice is undervalued.

When two people work equally hard, the person with more talent wins.

 

[SloaneRisette]

Fun fact: UMvC3 debug mode had an option to turn on combo damage counter similar to this. Wish they would have made it default ;(

...This is a loss I can't handle

 

[Master Milk]

dat alstein post . . .

Just out of curiosity, what do you think about articles like this?

I agree that a lot of people who talk about talent in fighting games are misguided though.

it's kinda weird they've got a predictive test and know why one group fails, but don't think to find a way to solve the problem. the problem seems to be in the way one group thinks. you can certainly teach people to think a certain way about problems

 

[Dahbomb]

...This is a loss I can't handle

Here's an interesting factoid that will shock you to your core.

The original plan for TACs in MVC3 wasn't the current system at all. It was a different system completely where you use up 1 bar to tag into your partner. You couldn't break it (so there was no silly guessing game) but the combo afterwards followed hit stun scaling proper (unlike the current TAC hit stun scaling which is reset until you touch the floor) so it was basically like doing a tag switch combo only it costed 1 more meter. So it was fair because even though you could switch to a heavy hitter it may not be meter efficient as you were investing a meter just to switch.

You wanna know how I know this? That system of TAC is already in the game and you can hack the game to follow that system of TAC! And it's 100x better than the current system. I am pretty sure there's a video out there of it, only thing is that the TAC switch that happens looks a bit janky because it's not obviously polished.

 

[SloaneRisette]

Here's an interesting factoid that will shock you to your core.

The original plan for TACs in MVC3 wasn't the current system at all. It was a different system completely where you use up 1 bar to tag into your partner. You couldn't break it (so there was no silly guessing game) but the combo afterwards followed hit stun scaling proper (unlike the current TAC hit stun scaling which is reset until you touch the floor) so it was basically like doing a tag switch combo only it costed 1 more meter. So it was fair because even though you could switch to a heavy hitter it may not be meter efficient as you were investing a meter just to switch.

You wanna know how I know this? That system of TAC is already in the game and you can hack the game to follow that system of TAC. And it's 100x better than the current system. I am pretty sure there's a video out there of it, only thing is that the TAC switch that happens looks a bit janky because it's not obviously polished.

Nah I already remember hearing about this.

 

[SolarKnight]

Here's an interesting factoid that will shock you to your core.

The original plan for TACs in MVC3 wasn't the current system at all. It was a different system completely where you use up 1 bar to tag into your partner. You couldn't break it (so there was no silly guessing game) but the combo afterwards followed hit stun scaling proper (unlike the current TAC hit stun scaling which is reset until you touch the floor) so it was basically like doing a tag switch combo only it costed 1 more meter. So it was fair because even though you could switch to a heavy hitter it may not be meter efficient as you were investing a meter just to switch.

You wanna know how I know this? That system of TAC is already in the game and you can hack the game to follow that system of TAC! And it's 100x better than the current system. I am pretty sure there's a video out there of it, only thing is that the TAC switch that happens looks a bit janky because it's not obviously polished.

So what you're saying is we could've had TvC VARs but got stuck with TACs instead for no good reason then

 

[Nyoro SF]

Fun fact: UMvC3 debug mode had an option to turn on combo damage counter similar to this. Wish they would have made it default ;(

Doesn't surprise me at all to hear about this.

No toggle given to the end user was a mistake.

So what you're saying is we could've had TvC VARs but got stuck with TACs instead for no good reason then

Yep. It makes sense to me, since it was the same team.

 

[Dahbomb]

So what you're saying is we could've had TvC VARs but got stuck with TACs instead for no good reason then

Pretty much. They wanted to do something different with this game compared to TvC but they ended up with something far worse.

It's pretty much like the whole non universal air dashes for MvC. That is something that was actually good for the game because having to fight against characters like Wolverine and Vergil with air dashes would've been stupid.

 

[Sayad]

Ayy yo fuck Idolmaster... that's all I have to say on the matter.

Berserk fans, so transparent. ;__;

 

[Dahbomb]

Berserk fans, so transparent. ;__;

And DDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN proud of it son.

 

[Sayad]

Well, at least your situation is better than HxH fans...




;__;

 

[Seyavesh]

Fun fact: UMvC3 debug mode had an option to turn on combo damage counter similar to this. Wish they would have made it default ;(

why

also can you reveal other neat stuff about debug mode?
i love hearing about that kinda stuff, especially interested for a game i've put so much time into

 

[call_kotaku]

Idolmaster isn't the reason why berserk fans suffer

 

[Ragingnight]

I was talking with a friend online about 3s and I remember I uploaded a scrub video of 3SOE scrub play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtRAqLsD7l0

I'm sure people will enjoy this only for the facepalms. Its what a scrub wong factor looks like

 

[NEO0MJ]

so much of the jp vf scene is well into their 30's and 40's. "talent" is overvalued, practice is undervalued.

I think that just means that the fanbase for that game will be gone soon.

Well, at least your situation is better than HxH fans...




;__;

My friend wanted me to get into HxH but after Berserk I swore off any ongoing manga with no end in sight.

 

[petghost]

Man I really wish ggpo would work on incorporating new emulators. How wonderful would the world be if we could play mvc2, cvs2 and ggxxac over amazing rollback netcode.

When you look at games like vsav and even st whose us scene probably wouldn't exist without ggpo it makes me wonder if that could lead to a resurgence of some kind for Naomi games.

 

[ShinMaruku]

i agree that it's not that simple
the idea shouldn't be "all you need is effort" but "if you put forth the effort, you can see results"
along with effort, you also need to actually be focused on improving and the proper feedback to enable you to improve
just playing fighting games a lot isn't going to make you godlike at them, but if you decide to be godlike at them and play a lot with that in mind, you'll improve

[/QUOTE
I think this part should really be taken to heart. It's not just playing a shit ton of games. I spend 4 months trying to boot camp sf4, I got no where. But I had somebody who gave me a few pointers and I seen results.

There are quite a few misconceptions about fighting games and the community does not help on some of them. Which is almost understandable due to lack of tact but really it's all managing expectations and and the developers have failed in that regard.

 

[Coffeeling]

The best part about "waahh mommy this is too hard" threads is Q telling people off.

 

[Beckx]

I think that just means that the fanbase for that game will be gone soon.



My friend wanted me to get into HxH but after Berserk I swore off any ongoing manga with no end in sight.

HxH reached a conclusion to its major arc and was just starting a new one when it paused, it's a great time to jump in.

 

[FSLink]

Fun fact: UMvC3 debug mode had an option to turn on combo damage counter similar to this. Wish they would have made it default ;(

Yeah...I think I remember seeing old demo build videos with it on?

That and the TAC changes are pretty tragic.


Also I do agree the universal air dash thing was a good thing in general, but man Ryu with an airdash is so fun. They should have let him keep his.

 

[MechaX]

All this talk about TvC makes me want to dig it out and play it again.

I couldn't play Tekkaman Blade worth shit, but that didn't stop him from being my favorite character in the game by far. Blaster Mode Omni-Directional Voltekka too OP.

 

[FSLink]

A TvC2 on XB1/PS4 would be really welcomed especially with a new Mahvel game not looking likely anytime soon.

The Tatsunoko cast all have some really cool movesets. Yatterman-2 is the best.

 

[Sayad]

My friend wanted me to get into HxH but after Berserk I swore off any ongoing manga with no end in sight.

HxH reached a conclusion to its major arc and was just starting a new one when it paused, it's a great time to jump in.

This, my post was a bit of a hyperbole, there's no crazy Casca waiting to be healed or an unfinished revenge story that seems impossible in HxH. I didn't touch the new arc and the last complete arc is good enough as a series end. The wait for Berserk is way more painful.

Don't miss on HxH just because it'll never end.

 

[KidA Seven]

FT7 Dashio vs Meimomo and Santarou vs Meimomo about to start

http://www.twitch.tv/yubiken

 

[sixteen-bit]

Fun fact: UMvC3 debug mode had an option to turn on combo damage counter similar to this. Wish they would have made it default ;(

how do you access the debug mode?

 

[KidA Seven]

Gamerbee said that Razer is going to announce a new pro gamer. Looks like they're going to do a kumite at the new razer store in Taiwan.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

https://twitter.com/gcyoshi13/status/598760153144373248

 

[sixteen-bit]

On blast.

 

[FormallyFamicom]

https://twitter.com/gcyoshi13/status/598760153144373248

This is excellent lol

 

[shaowebb]

Here's something fun from the folks playing TvC on Dolphin.

HD Tatsunoko vs Capcom footage at 60fps with shader options.

We need this in our lives. Please release a sequel or remake capcom.

 

[Skilletor]

I hate the TvC characters, but love the gameplay.

That video looks amazing.

 

[Beckx]

Please release a sequel or remake capcom.

They don't have the Tatsunoko license anymore either.

It's too bad. Now that Casshern, Gatchaman and Yatterman have all had modern shows it would be great to see more games, but unfortunately all that's in the pipe is a Japan exclusive, Xbox One exclusive (!) base building game with old Gatchaman and Speed Racer.

(Yatterman in particular would be cool b/c of how it reverses the trope and makes the Yattermen the bad guys & the new Doronjo the hero.)

 

[sixteen-bit]

Here's something fun from the folks playing TvC on Dolphin.

HD Tatsunoko vs Capcom footage at 60fps with shader options.

We need this in our lives. Please release a sequel or remake capcom.

Didn't TvC sell better than expectations? Sequel pls.

 

[Spuck-uk]

I hate the TvC characters, but love the gameplay.

That video looks amazing.

How can anyone hate KARAS?

 

[Clawww]

Here's something fun from the folks playing TvC on Dolphin.

HD Tatsunoko vs Capcom footage at 60fps with shader options.

We need this in our lives. Please release a sequel or remake capcom.

fucking nice

 

[shaowebb]

Didn't TvC sell better than expectations? Sequel pls.

Yes it did. What killed it before was the console it was on and the timing IMO. It was doing VERY well for a game where half the roster was largely unfamiliar to the west. That freshness of roster is honestly one of the game's strong points in my eyes. It felt like a whole new roster and experience because so little had been a character before it whose strategies you could fall back on.

How can anyone hate KARAS?

THIS.

That dude had a teleport for his front dash, great pokes, a counter, one of the best uppercuts I've ever seen in a fighter and a whole string of specials that could cancel into other unique specials. His combos were stylish as fuck and some of his stuff even got yanked to help create Vergil later because it was just that good.

Just check out this segment of one of his combos.

 

[Horseress]

Here's something fun from the folks playing TvC on Dolphin.

HD Tatsunoko vs Capcom footage at 60fps with shader options.

We need this in our lives. Please release a sequel or remake capcom.

That's beautiful....Capcom vs Capcom NEEDS to happen ASAP

 

[sixteen-bit]

 

[Skilletor]

How can anyone hate KARAS?

That's the ninja dude? That's literally the only character I liked from that side of the game.

 

[Bizazedo]

Yes it did. What killed it before was the console it was on and the timing IMO. It was doing VERY well for a game where half the roster was largely unfamiliar to the west. That freshness of roster is honestly one of the game's strong points in my eyes. It felt like a whole new roster and experience because so little had been a character before it whose strategies you could fall back on.

To an extent. It's a separate argument, but I really do think fresh / new roster is more applicable to hardcores on GAF than a commoner. As a young punk, I despised the lack of recognizable faces in SF3.

 

[Onemic]

They should put Sean in the background. You know he put that ball there.

 

[oneida]

I think that just means that the fanbase for that game will be gone soon.

read the post I was quoting

 

[Beckx]

Everybody knows about Galaga Tekken right? (google store link)

 

[Kimosabae]

This is poetry.

Snake Eyes: "This GIF gets me."

 

[hitsugi]

Here's something fun from the folks playing TvC on Dolphin.

HD Tatsunoko vs Capcom footage at 60fps with shader options.

We need this in our lives. Please release a sequel or remake capcom.

Dolphin is just too damn amazing.

 

[vulva]

Everybody knows about Galaga Tekken right? (google store link)

I finally unlocked kazuya the other day. Pretty fun

 

[FadedRevolution]

Here's something fun from the folks playing TvC on Dolphin.

HD Tatsunoko vs Capcom footage at 60fps with shader options.

We need this in our lives. Please release a sequel or remake capcom.

I play that guy from time to time on dolphin netplay. He is really good he bodied me the last set we played. We've been looking for more people to play with we have a steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/TvCUAS

If you got a pc that can run tvc on dolphin please join. Here is how to set it up.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/188354/dolphin-netplay-setup-guide#latest

 

[sixteen-bit]

Since Nintendo Wi-Fi connection has been end-of-life'd, is Dolphin the only way to play TvC online nowadays?

 

[.la1n]

TvC was the Vs game we deserved, if only it had been multi platform.