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Yeah... I'm not going to follow that swimsuit rule john. Just don't post lewd loli.

Otherwise this can just apply to other things like tharfa, boat girls, comic characters and etc.
 

Ryuuroden

Member
I am offended by Himeji Castle, I think it promotes the objectification of woman and its been proven by all the comments about breaking down her gates etc. I don't think she should be allowed to be posted in here either.....


Just saying, regardless of what you think about those laws, I personally am against drawing child porn etc, those types of laws have a history of being used to destroy real literary works, real artwork, etc etc. Just look it up, there's a deep dark intent to destroy artistic creativity in many laws like that under the guise of what we all agree should be not allowed and that is child porn.

I know they tried to make the law aim at exactly what they want to stop from being distributed but there is a lot of mistrust out there because of the past use of laws like this to ban anything someone disagrees with. They pass it under the guise of blocking one thing and then they start expanding it using a precedent until even stuff like 18 and older nude artwork thats not pornographic is banned. That is what people are worried about, not that it bans drawing "child porn"

Anyways, originally I was just pointing out you guys are heading down the route of just banning everything. Half of you who have said stuff like bikini figures (of which I have no interest in) are known to own statues of big busty women with their breasts pushing out of their shirt and have posted pics of those so I really don't think you have any right to be critical of others in some of the ways you have. I honestly don't care what happens either way but I am kinda getting tired of watching the hypocracy in here.

Anyways, this is coming from someone who went to art school and knows of the history of art discrimination as well as book burnings using well intended laws like this.

ALSO, I do not side with the person arrested, I have no idea what they had on their harddrive. Most likely what they did have would disgust me and make me vomit. I am only pointing out how laws that focus on what many would consider grey areas of ethics have a tendency to be misused by those in power instead of how they were intended. There is a long history of it.
 
I can't stop you, but make sure they don't look under 15.
Well it's about sexualization. No mod is going to throw a fissy fit over black rock shooter despite the main girl being in a bra and trench coat for a top because the material has zero sexual connotation.

I wonder what the stance on lilith. Probably the same since her main thing is fighting game that isn't about sexual fanservice
 
Date a Live has such interesting character designs that should have many figures. wish it was more popular instead of garbage like SAO.
You're wise beyond your years, cajun. Despite the flak I've given her in the past, I'd be all over a decent Kotori EX figure. Probably my 2nd favourite DAL design behind Kurumi.

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Oh yeah a Natsumi figure would be great. I would love some good quality figures of any of the DAL characters really...Except Tohka.
ding ding ding. Well, add Mana too if she counts.

I think she preceded both. Tharja isnt a very creative design though. Shes pretty but relatively bog-standard looking. Im pretty sure Natsumi has nothing to do with her and wasnt inspired by her in any way. Shes more of a flashy looking witch.
Not sure about Halloween Miku, but she definitely didn't precede Tharja.
 

RMI

Banned
I know I contributed to this discussion more than I should have (and I apologize) but we should probably stop. I've seen enough threads get closed once they go down this route, along with piles of bannings (usually to people who deserved it - i don't think anyone here is that far gone), and it's not worth screwing up this thread anymore with.

Here are pictures of a figures I want to buy, but I'm broke:


Anyone have either? Both? they're more or less the same cost. I am leaning towards Homura if she's still available pre-owned next month just because I already have 2/5 magical girls.
 
I know I contributed to this discussion more than I should have (and I apologize) but we should probably stop. I've seen enough threads get closed once they go down this route, along with piles of bannings (usually to people who deserved it - i don't think anyone here is that far gone), and it's not worth screwing up this thread anymore with.

Here are pictures of a figures I want to buy, but I'm broke:


Anyone have either? Both? they're more or less the same cost. I am leaning towards Homura if she's still available pre-owned next month just because I already have 2/5 magical girls.
Miku might go down in price since ems. Homuras is easy to expensive and the is always a chance of re release for that one
 

Ultimadrago

Member
I'm fine with the ruling either way as I don't purchase lewd figures. john shouldn't have to be concerned about the thread locking due to borderline figures being posted. NeoGAF ruling has spoken and taking precautions to keep the community alive is a fair move.

Well it's about sexualization. No mod is going to throw a fissy fit over black rock shooter despite the main girl being in a bra and trench coat for a top because the material has zero sexual connotation.

I wonder what the stance on lilith. Probably the same since her main thing is fighting game that isn't about sexual fanservice

It's definitely on a case-by-case basis. A BRS figure would be observed on its own standing as well as a Lilith figure (not according to "how sexual or not" their source materials are). In other words, it would be safe not to post any lewd Lilith figures if applicable. :p

I don't think I've seen a "lewd" BRS figure before (aside from maybe the GoodSmile Black Blade which I don't even care to post, knowing the character's age or not).
 

omlet

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Anyone have either? Both? they're more or less the same cost. I am leaning towards Homura if she's still available pre-owned next month just because I already have 2/5 magical girls.

I have neither but I've seen Deep Sea Miku in person and it looks pretty nice, if you don't mind how ridiculous the hair is. The base is pretty awesome. I'm not interested in buying it but I don't think you'd be disappointed if you are a Miku fan. Big box, though, so EMS required guaranteed (edit: from AmiAmi I mean).

As for Homura, well, you can't go wrong with Homura, either, especially if you're trying to get the set. That one is not my favorite version, but it goes well with the other GSC ones.
 

cajunator

Banned
I know I contributed to this discussion more than I should have (and I apologize) but we should probably stop. I've seen enough threads get closed once they go down this route, along with piles of bannings (usually to people who deserved it - i don't think anyone here is that far gone), and it's not worth screwing up this thread anymore with.

Here are pictures of a figures I want to buy, but I'm broke:



Anyone have either? Both? they're more or less the same cost. I am leaning towards Homura if she's still available pre-owned next month just because I already have 2/5 magical girls.

I have the 5 Madoka Magica girls from GSC along with Ultimate Madoka and preordered
devil Homura

Basically I spend way too much money on Madoka Magica but the figs are worth it.
 
I'm fine with the ruling either way as I don't purchase lewd figures. john shouldn't have to be concerned about the thread locking due to borderline figures being posted. NeoGAF ruling has spoken and taking precautions to keep the community alive is a fair move.



It's definitely on a case-by-case basis. A BRS figure would be observed on its own standing as well as a Lilith figure (not according to "how sexual or not" their source materials are). In other words, it would be safe not to post any lewd Lilith figures :p

I don't think I've seen a "lewd" BRS figure before (aside from maybe the GoodSmile Black Blade which I don't even care to post, knowing the character's age or not).
I see Nothing wrong with black blade to be honest. The source material and the figure aren't sexual in nature
 

RMI

Banned
I have neither but I've seen Deep Sea Miku in person and it looks pretty nice, if you don't mind how ridiculous the hair is. The base is pretty awesome. I'm not interested in buying it but I don't think you'd be disappointed if you are a Miku fan. Big box, though, so EMS required guaranteed (edit: from AmiAmi I mean).

I did see Deep Sea Miku in person this weekend and that's what got me interested. She looks great. I'm also really starting to appreciate figs that are in sitting/reclined poses becasuse they can fit in different shelf profiles than your usual standing fig.


I have the 5 Madoka Magica girls from GSC along with Ultimate Madoka and preordered
devil Homura

Basically I spend way too much money on Madoka Magica but the figs are worth it.

Homura is the tipping point for me. I have Mami and Madoka already, and I know that if I get Homura then Kyoko is a no-brainer and yes even Sayaka will make it into my collection (but I'll still hate her).

Miku might go down in price since ems. Homuras is easy to expensive and the is always a chance of re release for that one

Not sure what you mean about Miku going down in price since ems? I agree Homura is overpriced, but waiting for a re-release... I don't know.

Thanks for the input... I am just waiting for this month's expenses to clear and my spending to get back to normal after a lot of unexpected house expenses. It has been pretty slow for me in the whole fig collecting hobby since spring because of that stuff.
 

Based on previous threads concerning this issue something like a listed age won't mean anything. It's whatever they determine to look too young regardless of that.

I think it would be more accurate to replace the "15" part in that post with "whatever we think looks too young". Because that's exactly what's going to happen. No one's going to be saved from a perm ban by saying "but the listed age is 15 (or any number over that)".

For those who were wondering I didn't pull the trigger on that Labrys figure. I don't think I'm ready to jump down the hole yet.
 

cajunator

Banned
Based on previous threads concerning this issue something like a listed age won't mean anything. It's whatever they determine to look too young regardless of that.

I think it would be more accurate to replace the "15" part in that post with "whatever we think looks too young". Because that's exactly what's going to happen. No one's going to be saved from a perm ban by saying "but the listed age is 15 (or any number over that)".

For those who were wondering I didn't pull the trigger on that Labrys figure. I don't think I'm ready to jump down the hole yet.

there arent too many sexualized Kuroneko figures at least. they are mostly just cute.
With her goth lolita dresses and cat ears. Thats harmless.
 
She looks young and is in a micro bikini. I wouldn't risk it.
So what the difference between that and the main one. They are still both wearing the same top. The only difference is the cost is hanging.

If senran kagura can be posted, and that's nothing but sexual appeal I see no problem. Hell, I seeen mods in anime thread with strike witches and there were no issue.

It's about context and lewd imagery. Otherwise senran kagura would be banned like criminal girl (sp?)
 

Tempy

don't ask me for codes
Based on previous threads concerning this issue something like a listed age won't mean anything. It's whatever they determine to look too young regardless of that.

I think it would be more accurate to replace the "15" part in that post with "whatever we think looks too young". Because that's exactly what's going to happen. No one's going to be saved from a perm ban by saying "but the listed age is 15 (or any number over that)".

For those who were wondering I didn't pull the trigger on that Labrys figure. I don't think I'm ready to jump down the hole yet.

Why even mention an age anyway then? It's going to be arbitrary.

I can totally see Nendoroid Asuka Langley's navel! (Who is 14)
 

omlet

Member
Homura is the tipping point for me. I have Mami and Madoka already, and I know that if I get Homura then Kyoko is a no-brainer and yes even Sayaka will make it into my collection (but I'll still hate her).

GSC Kyoko is pretty great, I just picked it up a couple weeks ago as you might remember. If Homura is your tipping point I say just go for it; get Homura while you can since she's not as easy to find and might get more expensive before an aftermarket shift or re-release could potentially cause a price drop.

I've got Ultimate Madoka and Rebellion!Homura (on the way), so I don't think I want to get that GSC set despite having picked up Kyoko. I like the cast (even Sayaka) but don't really care for Mami and Sayaka's designs enough to really feel compelled to get the whole set (actually same for Madoka's normal costume and pose).
 

cajunator

Banned
So what the difference between that and the main one. They are still both wearing the same top. The only difference is the cost is hanging.

If senran kagura can be posted, and that's nothing but sexual appeal I see no problem. Hell, I seeen mods in anime thread with strike witches and there were no issue.

It's about context and lewd imagery. Otherwise senran kagura would be banned like criminal girl (sp?)

I mean like, just about any anime girl in an outfit could be seen as sexual if someone is into a particular fetish or whatever. where is the line drawn? Sometimes an outfit is obviously borderline, like Neptunia ones or the upcoming Infinite Stratos 2 figures ( I will link to those pics offsite when I receive them) but what about summer dresses like Menma or short skirts like some ecchi series figures? People will want to show their figures but where is the line?
 

johnsmith

remember me
Post whatever you guys want then. Just don't blame me if/when the hammer falls and this thread gets shut down and/or someone gets banned.
 

cajunator

Banned
Post whatever you guys want then. Just don't blame me if/when the hammer falls and this thread gets shut down and/or someone gets banned.

People are trying to gauge where the borderline is because they dont want to get banned. Obviously some figurines are ok to post people just want a set of guidelines of some sort. I dont think thats unreasonable if its going to be strictly enforced. Otherwise nobody is going to post anything for fear of getting banned. I think thats ridiculous.
 

RMI

Banned
GSC Kyoko is pretty great, I just picked it up a couple weeks ago as you might remember. If Homura is your tipping point I say just go for it; get Homura while you can since she's not as easy to find and might get more expensive before an aftermarket shift or re-release.
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Yeah I am leaning that way. Still going to wait a bit. There are two sitting on amiami preowned for 12.5k so it seems like her price is so high that there isn't much demand right now. I'll probably still be able to get her after next paycheck. If not, she'll turn up again and my penalty for being somewhat responsible now will be a slightly higher price tag. I don't see her going much higher than 12.5k though honestly.

Kyoko and Sayaka seem to always be available pre-owned for like 6.5 and 5.5k respectively, so they'll follow and I'll get the whole set.

I'll pm a mod and try to get their opinion. Who would be best? duckroll?

Besada was the one that posted in that SK thread so that might be a good place to start?
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
besada already kind of weighed in on the age thing in another thread. Senran Kagura threads are okay because the girls are all of legal age somewhere in the world where NeoGAF readership exists.

Criminal Girls and Monster Monpiece, on the other hand, depicts girls who are younger or seem significantly younger. Any discussing regarding those will be closed.

EDIT: Oh, I see this was covered on the previous page.
 
Why even mention an age anyway then? It's going to be arbitrary.

I can totally see Nendoroid Asuka Langley's navel! (Who is 14)

I'm not a mod so I can't say but realistically the scenario I mentioned is what will end up happening. A number isn't going to change anyone's mind.

I think FigureGAF will be ok in the end. I enjoy how much stuff people post here that I wouldn't have seen otherwise. Someday I might buy some of my own but until then I'll be lurking from the shadows.
 
Is pretty simple. The mod clearly said senran kagura level stuff is okay. Think about that. Senran kagura, the game that is sexual fanservice dynasty warrior game with nothing but tits and ass. If you are linking something more modest then you're good
 

Ryuuroden

Member
People are trying to gauge where the borderline is because they dont want to get banned. Obviously some figurines are ok to post people just want a set of guidelines of some sort. I dont think thats unreasonable if its going to be strictly enforced. Otherwise nobody is going to post anything for fear of getting banned. I think thats ridiculous.

Yeah, A lot of people are acting like they are going to report people for posting menma in a spring dress for gods sake. Personally it seems to me there's an ulterior motive going on here trying to needlessly scare people. The figure community has been around for years. The pictures arn't what has changed in here. What has changed is there has been a growing sexualization in commentary about even harmless figures with comments suggesting having sex with that character and so on. I thing that's the real problem, not what is typically posted in here figurewise. I think some of the comments that have been made in here over the last few months have gotten some people panties in a bunch and instead of, i don't know, maybe msging the person that offended them in private, they start attacking figures that by themselves pose no threat whatsoever. People are just linking stuff together now. Same shit happened in animegaf.

In otherwords, maybe if someone says something offensive to you, instead of holding it in, or confronting them in the forum, msg them first. I think a lot of people here are understanding and will not be offended by someone letting them know.
 

Tempy

don't ask me for codes
The thing is, if it's a figure of a character that's definitely younger than 15, when is it cute, and when is it "wrong"?

For example. Kudryavka from Little Busters is very cute, but her source material is pornographic, and there are lewd figures of her. Which figures are okay, and which aren't?
 

cajunator

Banned
besada already kind of weighed in on the age thing in another thread. Senran Kagura threads are okay because the girls are all of legal age somewhere in the world where NeoGAF readership exists.

Criminal Girls and Monster Monpiece, on the other hand, depicts girls who are younger or seem significantly younger. Any discussing regarding those will be closed.

what about, say this morgiana figure? Its her dancer outfit from Magi
She is listed around 14-16

http://myfigurecollection.net/item/166161
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Is pretty simple. The mod clearly said senran kagura level stuff id okay. Think about that. Senran kagura, the game that is sexual fanservice dynasty warrior game with nothing but tits and ass

The issue is age, not fanservice.

People should feel free to post whatever bikini figure pics they want in here, provided they're clearly of age.


what about, say this morgiana figure? Its her dancer outfit from Magi
She is listed around 14-16

http://myfigurecollection.net/item/166161

It's a gray area. Honestly, as long as people use a little discretion, I think the thread will be fine. I wouldnt think twice about that Magi being posted because she doesn't look obviously underage or anything.

For the record, I'm just echoing what I think are the thoughts of the moderation. I don't mind anything that anybody posts, really.
 

Einbroch

Banned
Sorry. :(

These last few pages have taught me to just shut up. I honestly posted the story as a warning to those gaffers in the UK, as I didn't want them to get in trouble. The joke I posted earlier was a joke, but if people don't want to hear it I'm not going to fight for my right to make bad jokes.

But if people are uncomfortable, they need to speak up and not stay silent, and the community should embrace their opinions, even if they don't agree with them.
 
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